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Excerpts from Recycle
I have it.
It looks official (includes a WB logo, US address, and ID 'pro-cd-9141').
Sounds amazing.
Can anyone tell me the story behind it? Is it one of the most convincing bootlegs ever made, or is there more to it?
Here's an image:
Oh, and here's the tracklist:
1 Ceremony - 4:40 2 Temptation (seven inch version) - 5:21 3 Blue Monday (seven inch version) - 4:10 4 Confusion (rough mix) - 8:09 5 The Kiss of Death (seven inch version) - 3:05 6 Shellcock - 7:39 7 Evil Dust - 3:39 8 Vanishing Point (instrumental making out mix) - 5:10 9 Run2 (extended version) - 5:25 10 MTO - 3:48 11 MTO (minus mix) - 5:29 12 The Happy One - 2:51 13 Vicious Circle (new order mix) - 4:07 14 World [Price of Love] (tony garcia radio mix) - 3:29 15 Spooky (night tripper dub) - 6:36 16 World in Motion 96 - 4:55
I believe "Ceremony" is the original 7" version One site lists the release date as 1997, but there's precious little info on this.
It is not official, however its a great addition to any collection. The person who put it together did a fantastic job.
Bought it on eBay for about ten dollars a couple of months ago but knew it was probably a bootleg. It mainly interested me for the two unreleased mixes (World Tony Garcia Mix + Spooky Nightripper Dub) but I must admit the vinyl conversions on this boot are really very good. The Ceremony 7" sounds great and the Run2 vinyl content (they excluded the 7" mix for some reason) sounds excellent too.
Not to mention the ultra rare Blue Monday (Seven inch) which I'd never heard beyond a grainy MP3 sounds practically CD quality here! :) There was no way I could be arsed locating that 7" Japanese promo with its scarce reputation. Obviously you can tell certain tracks are vinyl sourced (The intro of MTO reveals some hiss/crackles) but overall it wasn't enough to put me off. A good effort, regarding the quality of sound and the artwork; the Recycle logo is identical to the one circulated by the band's publicity in the late 90s. I suspect it was maybe done by a fan? Any NOOLers have a clue? Also if you examine the back of the box it has a Warners "PRO-" number, a perfectly reproduced "WB" logo, and includes production/engineer credits for each track. The author was obviously very concerned about producing something to fit in with other NO related promo copies (and succeeded IMO if the disc wasn't a run of-the-mill CD-R, official promos are usual stamped or handwritten)
Overall, a recommended bootleg but I would pay no more than ten or fifteen dollars for it. It's really handy for the fact it saves you hooking your turntable up to your PC and wasting a day doing your own hit-and-miss conversions. I own most of the vinyl/CDs already so had no moral complications over buying it (Bar the BM-83 Japanese 7" of course!)
I was lucky enough to get my hands on one 2 weeks ago, also from ebay. I like the treatment on the jewel case but didn't care for the blank cd so I printed my own. 
I also used the WB Records logo instead of the standard WB logo.
I must say the quality is superb. I have the Vanishing Point instrumental from the official CD but this version on EFR is recorded louder than the original with no degradation of sound. I read somewhere that the version of Ceremony is from the 12inch but I haven't bothered to play my 12 inch copy and the 7 inch copy to see which it is. How did they get The Happy One? Amazing! 
I wish whoever made this would make EFR-2 and include The Perfect Pit, Subvulture, True Dub, Touched by the Hand of Dub, Rocking Carol, Ode To Joy, World (pharmacy dub), Someone Like You (one of the mixes), and any other hard to impossible to get on CD songs.
What sort of quality is 'Vicious Circle (The New Order Mix)'? That was only ever out on cassette, so surely you can tell if that's a boot by the reduced sound quality??
Andy
wasn't recycle the original name for the retro project?
I remember there being new order recycle t-shirts for sale at bluecatstore
Mr Discography wrote: What sort of quality is 'Vicious Circle (The New Order Mix)'? That was only ever out on cassette, so surely you can tell if that's a boot by the reduced sound quality??
Andy
Pretty damn good! If this was taken from the cassette, there is absolutly no hiss anywhere. There is no muddiness in the music. Sound quality is excellent. I suspect that this boot may be taken from the original recording tapes because the quality is so damn good...or who ever put this together had some professional studio equipment at their disposal.
ant wrote: wasn't recycle the original name for the retro project?
Yep. It got canned when Warner deemed it too expensive, as Rob Gretton wanted it to include every single that New Order released and their B-sides (beats me why Depeche Mode, Cocteau Twins and others got to release singles box-sets and New Order couldn't...)
Monsieur Round & Round wrote:
ant wrote: wasn't recycle the original name for the retro project?
Yep. It got canned when Warner deemed it too expensive, as Rob Gretton wanted it to include every single that New Order released and their B-sides (beats me why Depeche Mode, Cocteau Twins and others got to release singles box-sets and New Order couldn't...)
IMHO, "too expensive" is stupid.
The average NO fan is 30 something, working and having money to spend on this.
Not like a boxset is for newbies...
Anybody here would have passed on the original Recycle concept? (that was supposed to include videos as well)
Recycle was going to be a multi CD box set with each single having it's own disc with B-sides/mixes and CD-Rom video stuff. Would have been quite cool, although it must be said that CD-Rom video is rubbish and we'd have still wanted a DVD release for the videos. A bit ahead of it's time really.
Spotnick wrote: ...
Anybody here would have passed on the original Recycle concept? (that was supposed to include videos as well)
Definitly not - I would have happilly shed out €100+ for the 'definitive article'
Barney Army wrote: Same logo as well.
Well, both the Propellerheads' and Saville's logos were "lifted" from the official logo that comes in every recycled material (check your milk-box in your fridge... )
I believe the person who is responsible for this used vinyl, cassette and CD sources for the material but paid to have it professionally mastered. Not sure who should get credit for the artwork.
The aforementioned person may lurk (or even post) here. I'll let him divulge any add'l details.
I would defintely second the vote for an EFR Vol. 2!
Spencer Chow wrote: Very interesting... :-?
Aha, you are the modest author of this boot, aren't you? Nice marketing though 
Mr Discography wrote: What sort of quality is 'Vicious Circle (The New Order Mix)'? That was only ever out on cassette, so surely you can tell if that's a boot by the reduced sound quality??
Andy
Are you sure about this? I don't have the CD with me, but I have both versions on iTunes, imported from my Ruined in a Day NUOCD2 CD on the same day, two minutes apart.
Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote: I think it's the Mike Haas mix that's cassette only.
Nope - the Haas mix is on the RIAD CD single. The NO mix is the one only available on cassette single.
CTB
Well if the compiler of "Excerpts from recycle" is lurking about or someone who knows them, i'd be very interested in procuring a copy if someone can point me in the right direction. I also found a similar fan-made compilation that had a lot of rare mixes such as the blue monday 7" mix and the original ceremony, called "international 2" and it was 4 cds.
Alistair wrote:
Run2 vinyl content (they excluded the 7" mix for some reason) sounds excellent too.
I would suspect limited space.
Not to mention the ultra rare Blue Monday (Seven inch) which I'd never heard beyond a grainy MP3 sounds practically CD quality here!
I'm pretty sure it *is* CD quality.
Obviously you can tell certain tracks are vinyl sourced (The intro of MTO reveals some hiss/crackles) but overall it wasn't enough to put me off.
Uh, I think that's the original loops with the hiss/crackle.
The NO mix of "Ruined in a Day" is UK cassette-only as others have mentioned and I believe the "Vaninshing Point" instrumental makeout mix on this Excerpts disc is EQed differently than the original version. Sounds nicer. Oh, and I believe the version of Ceremony is the *original* 12" version without Gillian.
Yes, it's really amazing. I've been listening to it non-stop. I'm wondering where the full length "The Happy One" is from. It's the only track that sounds slightly compressed, still, I've never heard it full length before and it's really very very good.
Spencer Chow wrote: Yes, it's really amazing. I've been listening to it non-stop. I'm wondering where the full length "The Happy One" is from. It's the only track that sounds slightly compressed, still, I've never heard it full length before and it's really very very good.
AudioGalaxy 
Sad, but true! nobody knows from where it is, really...
Tracey Spivey wrote: i listen to this disc quite bit. just wanted to put in a nother vote for an EFR Vol. 2!
Tracey,
You really think there would be enough material for Vol. 2? Off the top of my head I can only think of a few tracks that are not on CD or are rare. Well, except for a lot of the dubs, but how fun would a disc of those be? :)
t
I'll take that as a challenge and see what I can come up with
Input from others would be more than welcome.
