What songs should barney be proud of?

I always think that mr.dickens gets unfair criticism of his lyrics. Sure sometimes ,he's full of cliches, and reacuring themes but sometimes i think simple is sweet sometimes. I think his sincerity overcomes any shortcoming that he has as a songwriter.

I wouldnt like NO if i didnt appreciate his lyrics.

I think he should be very proud of these songs.

1. Loveless- I think it is his most personal song. A good or bad breakup, however you maylook at it.

This is an excellent "watch any fool you will take'

2 wftsc- love the references to the sea and the mythic sirens. Sounds like he could start a novel.

3. Thieves like us- Sure it might sound chessey, but his sincerity does it here for me.

4. Get the message- here i think he writes a perfect pop song.Electronic's ,usually in my imho, sum doesnt equal its part. But here it does. Johnny Marr's guitar is amazing in this one.

5. Temptation- I cant even get into it.

Of course, their are others, these songs dont reflect which ones i think are the best. Just among the best.

An interesting topic as I'm always paying much more attention to the lyrics than the melody. Absolute masterpieces: Doubts even here, Sunrise and As it is when it was.

well done thread

:pat on my back:

Patrick, im sure you have some interesting thoughts

One of the things that I love about New Order is because of the lyrics. It is writing that can be interpreted many different ways depending on how you are feeling while you're listening to a New Order song.

Songs that I think Barney should be proud of are "Special, Regret, Siren's Call, Vanishing Point, Temptation, Procession".

Heck, there's just too much to list. Some songs DO suffer from the writing though, but for the most part, it's how the songs make you feel while you're listening to them that matters most.

barney's inadequate voice and awkwardness makes NO endearing to me.

I don't think he's either.

Perhaps he would be considered in those terms in Brooklyn, but we're all like that in Manchester.

interesting? Maybe i should visit.

Regret Temptation Blue Monday WFTSC True Faith 5 8 6 All the Way Dream Attack BLT Procession EGG

And, simply for its hilarity, FINE TIME

By the way, good thread.

Church of the KLF wrote: By the way, good thread.

Thank you. i thought so , i was actually proud of myself. This is why i started promoting in another thread.

btw when i lived in westchester, i really enjoyed the SL radio station

good one jon boy...

I think Temptation is on the top with Leave Me Alone as a close second. Siren's is def up there...There's plenty more but I can't name em all

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I once analyzed their lyrics for a 2nd year english class (poetry and prose!) - got an A...

wonderful words...

Temptation, the majority of Technique, Age of Consent, YSF, Leave Me Alone, Love Vigilantes, Perfect Kiss, Thieves Like Us, True Faith, Procession, Lonesome Tonight-really top notch.

Though didn't the band collaborate on most of the lyrics for PCL?

Everyone trashed Krafty, but as with Regret, I enjoyed its simple honesty.

WFTSC is great too. Shame it's received lukewarm reviews. It's the least contrived track on the album, it's fluid lyrically and musically, simultaneously self-referential and mature.

Church of the KLF wrote: Regret Temptation Blue Monday WFTSC True Faith 5 8 6 All the Way Dream Attack BLT Procession EGG

And, simply for its hilarity, FINE TIME

You should of added Confusion to this list, not the one everyone knows, but the original song.

How come No one has said Jetstream here?Hmm..

Jetstream.

I have to say that im disappointed this thread didnt catch on. Its seems like negativly garners more attention. Oh well!!!

It would be easier to list songs Barney shouldnt be proud of.That list would be pretty damn short.Draculas Castle would be in there.At the top.And maybe Shellshock.

lonesome tonight, all day long, nearly all of tecnique.

there's hardly any lyrics that I don't like but RTS makes me cringe, I love the chuck it in cos it fits attitude he sometimes has, ie it beats arrithmatic, adds to the feel of the songs and proves that barney still has a sense of humour, even though he probably wrote them at 5.00 am while completely bladdered.

BYT does he say twat at the end of loveless, I always thought he did and it fits with the song and his state of mind at the time.

Again, great thread, much better than my last one, I sincerely appologise, i was completely uninspired to do anything interesting!!!

Jonathan wrote: Jetstream.

I have to say that im disappointed this thread didnt catch on. Its seems like negativly garners more attention. Oh well!!!

It has caught on fairly well.

Johnny wrote: It would be easier to list songs Barney shouldnt be proud of.That list would be pretty damn short.Draculas Castle would be in there.At the top.And maybe Shellshock.

You don't like Dracula's Castle, Johnny?

I like shellshock,and jetstream but not dracula's castle and turn.

:bag:

Jonathan wrote: I like shellshock,and jetstream but not dracula's castle and turn.

:bag:

You don't like Turn? I never imagined!

P-A-T, you like J-E-T, i'm i correct?

Jonathan wrote: P-A-T, you like J-E-T, i'm i correct?

Yes, I do. I like the remixes better, but I like the album version as well.

Patrick wrote:

Johnny wrote: It would be easier to list songs Barney shouldnt be proud of.That list would be pretty damn short.Draculas Castle would be in there.At the top.And maybe Shellshock.

You don't like Dracula's Castle, Johnny?

Well..Hmmmmm. I like the intro leading up to when Barney starts singing.I just think its a weak melody.Uninspiring New Order .Its just a fairly flat song all round for me.Maybe i just got off on the wrong foot with it back in February.

I listened to it last night and it occured to me how it sounds totallly like something off Raise The Pressure.Although that album wasn`t all bad.Just a few songs on it were rave dad.

Johnny wrote:

Patrick wrote:

Johnny wrote: It would be easier to list songs Barney shouldnt be proud of.That list would be pretty damn short.Draculas Castle would be in there.At the top.And maybe Shellshock.

You don't like Dracula's Castle, Johnny?

Well..Hmmmmm. I like the intro leading up to when Barney starts singing.I just think its a weak melody.Uninspiring New Order .Its just a fairly flat song all round for me.Maybe i just got off on the wrong foot with it back in February.

I listened to it last night and it occured to me how it sounds totallly like something off Raise The Pressure.Although that album wasn`t all bad.Just a few songs on it were rave dad.

RTP is something I never listen to.

Perhaps M can change your mind about Dracula's Castle. My recollection is that she likes it quite a bit.

Thats the last im having anything to do with her then.

And it appears she`s a Depeche frickin Mode fan as well

Johnny wrote: Thats the last im having anything to do with her then.

And it appears she`s a Depeche frickin Mode fan as well

Oh, dear, that's dreadful news.

Well yes.Its (bad)news to me but maybe everyone else knew?.Hope she hasnt got any more bombshells like that to reveal.

Johnny wrote: And it appears she`s a Depeche frickin Mode fan as well

Stalker!!

NObabe wrote:

Johnny wrote: And it appears she`s a Depeche frickin Mode fan as well

Stalker!!

Was my recollection correct on your feelings about Dracula's Castle, M? (Too bad I can't abbreviate it, for fear of being misunderstood.)

Patrick wrote: Was my recollection correct on your feelings about Dracula's Castle, M? (Too bad I can't abbreviate it, for fear of being misunderstood.)

Great tune that one! Also glad to know that someone else shares the same feelings about Dracula as me.

NObabe wrote:

Patrick wrote: Was my recollection correct on your feelings about Dracula's Castle, M? (Too bad I can't abbreviate it, for fear of being misunderstood.)

Great tune that one! Also glad to know that someone else shares the same feelings about Dracula as me.

Thanks for confirming my recollection, M. :)

(And for those who were wondering, I do use smilies on occasion.)

Excellent thread Sir. In my mind NewOrder has always meant everything not only for the strongest of melodies and rythms but for the lyrics parts as well. I always found BARNEY's writing very touching and that it could be interpreted on multiple levels. And there's so many which I can rely to either. All in all, it's very emotional to listen to NewOrder I think. They shoot me straight to the heart, forever.

...warning... engaging sarcasm circuits...

'The ones he's written'.

HHMMMMMM

Like DM

Like Dracula's Castle

Album version of Jetstream makes me puke...Sorry Patrick

It's as torturous as rock a shack

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((((e)))) wrote: HHMMMMMM

Like DM

Like Dracula's Castle

Album version of Jetstream makes me puke...Sorry Patrick

It's as torturous as rock a shack

((((e))))

I believe you're not alone in feeling that way, T.

NObabe wrote:

Johnny wrote: And it appears she`s a Depeche frickin Mode fan as well

Stalker!!

Fat old man lover.

Johnny wrote:

NObabe wrote:

Johnny wrote: And it appears she`s a Depeche frickin Mode fan as well

Stalker!!

Fat old man lover.

Calling yourself fat and old? Wanker! Tee Hee!

I suspect he meant BS.

Good thread.

Dream Attack

Patrick wrote: I suspect he meant BS.

BullShit!

I can take being called fat and old.But i object to being called a wanker.

And i have a brand new photo taken last night.With my shirt off.And i certainly do not look fat and old.

Johnny wrote: And i have a brand new photo taken last night.With my shirt off.And i certainly do not look fat and old.

Are you going to share that one?

Johnny wrote: And i have a brand new photo taken last night.With my shirt off.And i certainly do not look fat and old.

Will you being giving RAMA a run for his money?

As It Is When It Was WFTSC Run Wild Love Less Dream Attack Leave Me Alone Temptation ICB Love Vigilantes Ruined In A Day 1963 True Faith All Day Long

I think it is a bit disrespectful to Jonathan that his wonderful thread has been reduced to a slanging match and an opportunity for me to post pics of my sexy torso.So no i won`t post it

Johnny wrote: And i have a brand new photo taken last night.With my shirt off.

Funny, me too!

You have Maya's and my permission to post it. Just post it on the pic thread, stud.

What, you have a brand new picture of you with your shirt off?.Or one with me with my shirt off?.

Johnny wrote: I think it is a bit disrespectful to Jonathan that his wonderful thread has been reduced to a slanging match and an opportunity for me to post pics of my sexy torso.So no i won`t post it

What if Jonathan says he doesn't mind? You wouldn't need to post it in this thread.

Johnny wrote: What, you have a brand new picture of you with your shirt off?.Or one with me with my shirt off?.

Shut up or we're gonna get banned from DR!

i have gone back to an old post of mine and edited it and inserted the pic.You have half an hour to find it.Then ill re edit to delete it.A clue - its on either Dig Rep or BCD.

First person to find it gets a fully naked pic!

No i`m just kidding.Here it is

Anyone noticed the WFTSC single cover chick's got hairy arms?

Johnny wrote: No i`m just kidding.Here it is

Not on my screen.

Patrick wrote:

Johnny wrote: No i`m just kidding.Here it is

Not on my screen.

Oh , bugger.Oh well.I suck at the internet.

NObabe wrote: Anyone noticed the WFTSC single cover chick's got hairy arms?

Must be that Nina who sang 99 Red Balloons.

Johnny wrote:

Patrick wrote:

Johnny wrote: No i`m just kidding.Here it is

Not on my screen.

Oh , bugger.Oh well.I suck at the internet.

Tease.

Johnny wrote:

NObabe wrote: Anyone noticed the WFTSC single cover chick's got hairy arms?

Must be that Nina who sang 99 Red Balloons.

It's Nena - 99 Luft Balloons, silly!

We have hijacked so many threads!! We may be reprimanded soon.

Remember the band Katrina & Waves that sang walking on sunshine. What do you think of that name now.

Nena/Nina whatever!!!!!!.And it was "Red" balloons round this neck of the woods

Jonathan wrote: We have hijacked so many threads!! We may be reprimanded soon.

Remember the band Katrina & Waves that sang walking on sunshine. What do you think of that name now.

I know the joke.it`s not fucking funny!!!

Johnny wrote:

Jonathan wrote: We have hijacked so many threads!! We may be reprimanded soon.

Remember the band Katrina & Waves that sang walking on sunshine. What do you think of that name now.

I know the joke.it`s not fucking funny!!!

Its not suppose to be funny. I just read this guy from New Orleans.who has pLaying this song non stop while helping clean up. He says it helps him get through the day You know its important to have a sense of humor during the hardships of life.

Btw I never heard th joke

Never seen before pic of johnny

I`ve quit the steroids recently

NObabe wrote: Anyone noticed the WFTSC single cover chick's got hairy arms?

She's a he...kinda like the get ready dood

((((e))))

Jonathan wrote:

Johnny wrote: And i have a brand new photo taken last night.With my shirt off.And i certainly do not look fat and old.

Will you being giving RAMA a run for his money?

BananaRAMA?

I think Barney's lyrics in Cries and Whispers are some of the best I have ever heard.

Brilliant song.

well i think that nu ordr should be proud of all their songs. i dont know if barney writes every piece of music, as they have proved they can do this in their solo projects but BLT and true faith are ones that spring to mind.

Lyrics. Its all in the lyrics...

"Every little counts, when I am with you... I think you are a pig, you should be in a zoo.."

true faith

I think he is proud of his songs.Who would'nt be after all?