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Lots of contenders for this.

Many songs have individual brilliance whether that be musical, lyrical, bass, guitars, drums etc etc.

Examples:

Bizarre Love Triangle: "I feel fine and I feel good....i do admit to myself...we'll never see just what we're meant to be" & synthesisers in middle

Temptation: (my fave): "green eyes, blues eyes, grey eyes....never seen anyone wuite like you before"

1963: great intro

Regret: great intro

Vanishing Point: repeat bass and intro

WFTSC: last verse"how many times do i have to....what can i do just to make you see....so good for a man like, man like me"

True Faith: Opening lyrics " I feel so extraodinary"

Just to name a few!

Whats your fave new order song segment?? Mine is Temptation

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The intro to Ceremony Hooky's bass on Age Of Consent The climax to Perfect Kiss Synths + melodica on Your Silent Face

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There are a ton: The intro to Blue Monday. "The past is the present, the future is mine" part in Confusion. "Now I feel you've left me standing in a world that's so demanding" part in True Faith. The very last keyboard part(the last 10 seconds or so) in Here to Stay. The ending parts in Dracula's Castle and Dream Attack. The "la la la la la" parts in Paradise. "Volts from above hit the people down below" part in Temptation. The "you're much too young..." part in Fine Time. The long keyboard based part right before the last choruses on Guilt is a useless emotion. The last two lyrics in The Perfect Kiss.

There's more I'm sure, but that's just what I can think of for now.

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whenever they do that major-minor chord shift on the synths when they're letting rip. Pure Gillian/Hooky moments. Love it.

Too many of them to mention.

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the beginning of regret hooky's bass solo in let's go

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too many bits to mention individually.

but what I really like about the order, is the instrumental break in the middle of most songs. I believe the professional term for that is a bridge. few other bands do it or do it as well as them.

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John Sludden wrote: The intro to Ceremony Hooky's bass on Age Of Consent The climax to Perfect Kiss Synths + melodica on Your Silent Face

There you are

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The 'I don't belong to no one' refrain in "Dream Attack". Great buildup both times: the first is cut short, and the second has that synth flourish before the guitar solo. Cool and emotive all at once.

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Far too many to mention, but I do enjoy it when Barney adds in a little lyrical 'epilogue' after the last chorus in the best NO songs. It's not quite a verse, it's not really a chorus....but it adds an emotional weight in every case.

Examples include Ceremony ("Forever, watching love grow.."), Vanishing Point ("And he gave it away like in whistle down the wind..") and Regret (Just wait 'till tomorrow, I guess that's what they all say..")

Anyone else notice this? DepthCharge, I don't recall a lot from our drinking session ages ago, but I do recall discussing this at some point. CTB :bear:

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The intro to Hurt, just as those drums crash in and Barney's nonsense lyrics begin.

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the end of bizarre Dub triangle. Because after sitting thru a pretty ploddy, lumpy pettibone mix, out of nowhere, that bass just appears, SO loud, and SO lovely.

The fade out of fine time. But I think the ultimate has to be either the last movement of Here to Stay, I dunno, there's something about hearing Barney sing "we're here to stay" while hooky SLAUGHTERS his bass that just warms my blackened soul. OR, and I think this one has it by a nose........any of those mid 80's gigs where temptaion appears out of EGG.....the moment the Gills' ARP's change from "dugga da da da dugga da da" to "dugga dugga dugga dugga" is almost too much an when the top part comes in, that's me gone, on the floor claws outstretched and tesifying that NO are the greatest band in the entire universe of space and time.

Apart from that, the best thing is that roar followed by "hello we're nooo orda", then a larger cheer for that, then DRRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGG, as Hooky lets everyone know that they really ARE new order :)

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"and they gave him away, like in 'whistle down the wind'..." (vanishing point)

"from a stolen pen, to a velvet glove..." (as it is, when it was)

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Three-note synth at intro and bridge of 1963

Extremely high pitched bass plinks at the end of 1963

Closing bassline of Fine Time (listening to it now, it sounds very videogame-y)

Distorted guitar 'solo' at the end of SOTN

Syncopated drum rolls at end of Procession

The jangling guitar riff and bendy, slithering synth line of EGG.

The bass's cameo apperances in the bridge of Everyone Everywhere

The bassline that plays under the repeating arpeggios of the guitars near the finale of Ceremony. Goes roughly: 13-13-13-13-13-13-13-12-13-12--------------12--12--12 ------------------------------13--13-13-13---13--13--

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the "cough" start

on Love Less (or is it all the way). fuck can't remember. nice cough though.

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Still the intro to Round & Round

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Two thirds through 'Sunrise' where the absolute mayhem starts... :thumb:

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You caught me at a bad time so why dont you piss off

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2:30 to 2:59 on Turn (album version).

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All of the above! It's taken me ages to read this thread, cause ive been listening to as many of those bits as i could - brilliant stuff:clap:

I think my fave would be the extended intro on the 12" Temptation - where the guitar slowly builds up & up & up - and then drops to the synth & lyrics - clasic (& almost clasical)

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Yes to many to mention but love hearing TPK live especially the middle bit when Mr hooks bass comes in it sounds like a plane comeing into land.good forum this sat in work reading all these posts and getting paid for it must go now got to have a piss in the sink im bursting.

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Perfect Kiss-The quiet part with the frogs Thieves Like Us-Whole Intro All Day Long-Gillian's swirly keyboard after Bernards folky guitar bit Sunrise-The quiet mumbly bit The Him-I'm so tired, I'm so tired Age of consent-I lost you i lost you True Faith-Intro with the drums, opening lines, last verse Round & Round-The drum programming before the last chorus

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The 10 10 10 10 10 10 8 8 8 8 8 intro to ceremony. A beautiful instrumental so simple even I can play it on guitar.

Five seconds into true faith when all hell is let loose.

The synthesisers in your silent face

The riff in Leave me alone

The piano part before the first verse of vanishing point.

Hooky's bass part and the chorus of BLT

The opening of Perfect kiss and/or Kiss of death

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FINE TIME - 'you got a lot of technique'

SPOOKY - introduction. Best bit of the song by miles!

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Chris Nash wrote: Two thirds through 'Sunrise' where the absolute mayhem starts... :thumb:

I'll agree with that!

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There are oh so many. And surely no other band on the planet can touch NO for music that makes your hairs on the back of your neck stand up.

Angel Dust is one I can think of, at top of my head. After Barneys finished singing, it goes into an assault on the senses. The violins building up, then the fantastic drum roll (and my favourite of Steves), then the guitar and xylophone duplicating the same melody, the "Woooooah hoooooah hoooooohs", then the fenetic guitar solo and thrashing bass. Awesome.

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"Patiently you wait for me"...3:38 in Special. Does it for me every time.

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Too many to count, but...

One old : Ceremony at around 2'57 (on the Gillian version) after the first 'watching forever' there's a split second of calm then Hooky's bass shifts up into the full melody.

One new : WFTSC. at 3'03, after the second chorus, Hooky goes back to the sublime verse bassline and simultaneously the synths come in - the moment that NO reminded me that they're still truly great.

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Far too many,but here are some edited highlights:

Hooky's bassline after the second chorus on Ceremony always gets me (especially the live version on the Retro boxset)

The fadeout on BLT (the 94 version highlights it further)

The middle eight on Krafty

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Too many to mention but here goes:

1963 - 'There are too many ways that you can kill someone, Like a love affair, When the love has gone.'

The Perfect Kiss - when the bass kicks in near the start

Ceremony - The bass at the start. Sounds like church bells ringing out

Love Vigilantes - The bit with the hand/mouth keyboard thing at the start

True Faith - 'I feel so extraordinary....'

This Time of Night - Piano/Keyboard break in middle of song

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Oh yes. The bit in Fine Time when Barney sings - 'Baby, you know I've made a lot of cool chicks, But I haven't met a girl with all her own teeth.'

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Christopher Owens wrote: Far too many,but here are some edited highlights:

The middle eight on Krafty

OOOOOH yes I forgot that, but even more so ...the totally WRONG strings ( say what you like, they sound like Gilbert's work to me, same as run wild) after the forst chorus and the entire second verse....cheered me up no end the first time I actually heard it properly. OOOh and the first time I heard krafty live, boot of NYC....hooky's bass comes in deafeningly and you can actually hear a collectiver "fuuuuuuuuuuccccccccck" from the croswd....PRICELESS

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-synth break in the middle of run

-conclusion (last 3.30) of the perfect kiss (12" and not the substance edit)- as well, bernard's vox right before the song goes into the middle break

-right after the intro, the synths pouring in the melody of true dub

-ending (last 1.45) of bizarre love triangle (album version)

-synth pattern of your silent face

-when the synths kick in at the end of guilty partner

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EGG starting from 0:33

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Will never remember them all but had great fun trying to...

Outros for Dream Attack, Draculas Castle & Guilty Partner.

Bernard telling us it's definitely the last time in Temptation (live.)

The bit where Ceremony comes crashing back in (esp live.)

The words "I feel so extraordinary..."

The guitar loop intro of Run 2 extended

Intros to Sunrise & Primitive Notion where Hooky is playing with the national grid.

The cataclysm that is the end of the full Perfect Kiss.

The crashing intro to Regret (esp live & at the front!)

That bit of the Hand of God vid - you know the one.

The drum patterns in WIFM.

The opening synths in Subculture (esp when repeated in Razormaid2 mix but not the overdubbed 87 mix)

Any into by Alan Wise (live)

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Manny Grillo wrote: FINE TIME - 'you got a lot of technique'

SPOOKY - introduction. Best bit of the song by miles!

Its actually - 'Youve got love technique' i agree though its a great part of that song , also off that same album - the intro and first verse of Dream Attack is my favourite part of a NO song..

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i like the intro to almost all the songs. like sunrise for the bass riff. love less's intro, i love it when the synths are dominant. but im a huge hooky fan, gah. new order rocks so much ass. i love it

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in spooky's intro it sound like it says Bass Mekanik, which is a techno artist

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Wow, what a response!!

I agree there are too many to mention,,,but great to get a varied response of all our fave parts.

I also forgot the intro to Dream Attack...music then lyrics..."Nothing in this world can touch the music..."...Class!! The confidence of Barney and Friends!

They're still quality now and as strong as they have ever been...just like the Mitchell Brothers!!!

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The instrumental break in 60 Miles an Hour

1963 "Johnny do you miss me? I just want to feel free..." and the following bass outro

The build up to "we're here to stay"

"Turn your eyes from me"

"It was always special"

The return of the wibbly synth at the end of blue monday gets me no matter how many times i hear it

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Major Tarantino wrote:

1963 "Johnny do you miss me? I just want to feel free..." and the following bass outro

Yes! This is genius--I haven't been able to get it out of my head for the last week. Really lovely.

To name a few off the top of my head:

The melodica bit in "Your Silent Face."

The couplet at the end of "The Village": "Their love died three years ago/spoken words I cannot show"

Hooky's bassline at the start of "Regret."

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Many are very good, but The BEST ever: "Temptation," middle of the song, about 3:40 to 4:10 (substance version)" "oh oh oh," then the guitar solo, then the key change, then "oh you've got green eyes, oh you've got blues eyes, oh you've gray eyes" twice. At the key change, the clouds of heaven always part and open up and shine a ray of light down on me.

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I don't think there's a single NO song with a key change in it, but I knows what you means.

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Elegia-everything Leave Me Alone-everything As It Is When It Was- "from a stolen pen to a velvet glove" Everyone everywhere- "how much is free for me and you (?)" World- everything Subculture- the beginning Here to Stay Avalanche Times change Your Silent Face

and plenty more......

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christian blood wrote: Many are very good, but The BEST ever: "Temptation," middle of the song, about 3:40 to 4:10 (substance version)" "oh oh oh," then the guitar solo, then the key change, then "oh you've got green eyes, oh you've got blues eyes, oh you've gray eyes" twice. At the key change, the clouds of heaven always part and open up and shine a ray of light down on me.

That's a good expression of why, for me, the Substance version is pre-eminent.

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Hi, don't say much but had to respond to this. My favourite piece of music of all time is towards the end of the instrumental version of Thieves Like Us when Barney joins in with some 'ohhh ohhhhhh ohhhh ohhhing', just fantastic.

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How could I forget Thieves Like Us - when Hooky's bass kicks in. Genius.

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The keyboard break on Round & Round (Technique version)

Intro to Ceremony

Bass on Lonesome Tonight (Someone on here said that's what they will play as you ascend into heaven. I couldn't agree more)

Guitar solos on "Procession"

The synth and the whole first (laughing) verse to "Every Little Counts"

Bass on '1963' ('95 version)

The keyboard sounding like an accordian at the end of 'Run'

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Manny Grillo wrote: FINE TIME - 'you got a lot of technique'

SPOOKY - introduction. Best bit of the song by miles!

Does that count for MTO also? :laugh:

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Get Ready is poorly represented, eh?

Someone Like You - when Hooky's bass kicks in or the instrumental at the end. (that's enough Get Ready tracks already) Ceremony - All of it. Dream Attack - the crystalline, melodic keyboard refrain Don't Do It - when the synths kick in. WFTSC - the last, heartfelt verse, unexpectedly poignant

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Krafty - album version - just between 3:21 and 3:22 that little 'pause' - don't know why, but I love it! 'I feel so extraordinary' makes me pee my pants every time though! Thank the Lord for incontinence pads.

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How come no one here has nominated "the run-off groove" yet? I was holding out for some wag to do this, but I'm very disappointed in everybody! ;)

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Mmm...

The intro to Thieves Like Us, perfect. I used to listen to it all the time on my way into Manchester on the train, it just seemed to fit.

Crystal intro, sounds almost delicate until the drums kick in and the band come in one by one.

Temptation, Barney's lyrics with the "up down, turn around...", catchy! One of my favourites to bounce around to.

Not really part of a song, but that little scene in the BLT video where the lady talks about reincarnation. Completely random but it seems to work somehow.

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Like everyone else, there are just too many to list, but a particular favourite at the moment is when the synth comes in at 2 mins 45 secs on 60mph. Always gives me the 'shivers'.

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Oh, yeah - Crystal Specifically at 1.27 the 'chattering' after 'I don't know' Then the single keyboard chord after 'Here comes love' around 1.42 - actually, that whole song, its perfect

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Currently, when the guitars kick in on Who's Joe. Turns me into a goose whenever we play that one!

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Run - particularly synth

Actually Synth on everything.

When ceremony goes quiet then builds.

Intro to EGG when synth pattern changes.

"Turn your eyes from me' 'where to turn when you're gone' 'green eyes' 'bolt of blue' WIM drums (hate me if you will) Gillain VO in doubts even here synth in chosen time all movement synths

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Ecstacy on PCaL the whole lot.

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Steve Campbell wrote: I don't think there's a single NO song with a key change in it, but I knows what you means.

1963 CHANGED KEY

" I JUST WANT YOU TO BE MINE AND I DONT WANT THIS WORLD TO SHINE I DONT WANT THIS BRIDGE TO BURN OH JOHNNY WILL YOU MISS ME I JUST WANT TO FEEL FREE"

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Another one.

World In Motion - check out Hooky's descending bass just before the second verse. This is why it's the best footy song ever made.

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How about the intro to the first airing of "Sooner than you think" (at that time called "Family affair") on Radio 1 in 1984 - ......

"Hello everyone it's nice to be here, come so far to see you all"

Or is it the unbelievable rhythm of SM's drumming when they play "Chosen Time" live?

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I love the sound of skipping track 8 on WFTSC:lol: :laugh: :thumb: :yawn:

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Ronald Kirsch wrote: too many bits to mention individually.

but what I really like about the order, is the instrumental break in the middle of most songs. I believe the professional term for that is a bridge. few other bands do it or do it as well as them.

Mosty a soaring synth as in Ruined In A Day, when it first came out I dismissed it as too slow but after repeated listens it is sheer class.

Like many other people there are FAR too many to mention, reading though the posts you just keep thinking 'Yeah that was awesome' to each and every one, all would be on my list. but these are my favourites

Krafty intro (0:00 - 0:20) First the synths then the awesome bass - sublime.

Patrick wrote: 2:30 to 2:59 on Turn (album version).

I would personally have the whole song but here is another great snippet 3:27 - 3:56 more Hook genius.

CuanaD wrote: Oh, yeah - Crystal Specifically at 1.27 the 'chattering' after 'I don't know' Then the single keyboard chord after 'Here comes love' around 1.42 - actually, that whole song, its perfect

Oh yes, it starts off so quiet and then hits your senses with synths,drums, bass then Barney with some choice lyrics.

Also love the intro of the original 1963

All of Temptation, Perfect Kiss, Round and Round.

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I put on ANY NEW ORDER song and my favourite part is when i nip into the kitchen for a bag of crisps and another can of beer! :hat:

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Dream Attack's outro definitely.

The way the whole song builds up for a finale of raging guitars and synth beats, while remaining a fragile beauty is awe inspiring.

From WFTSC it has to be the "J-E-T (J-E-T), your are my Jetstream lover..." bit, for the sole reason that my 3-year old son loves it, knows all the words, and there's nowt better than getting them hooked at an early age.

No nursery rhyme shite for him, it's NO all the way!

You ruined my career

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The clanging start of "Ceremony" - IT'S LIKE HAVING NAOMI WATTS LICK YOUR BALLS AND THEN PROPOSING TO YOU.

[LADIES, PLEASE INSERT YOUR OWN FANTASY HERE...]

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Nice one I love the analogy.

In that case Dracula's Castle is like having Michelle McManus sit on your face!

No need!

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[LADIES, PLEASE INSERT YOUR OWN FANTASY HERE...]

Ok -

Some sort of time machine is invented and Steven Morris, at age 20 appears in front of me. We go for a drink.

Or, alternatley, he had a son who was of,, around 17, also a drrummer and we happened to bump into each other. We would go for a drink.

Etc. Etc.

:thumb:

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NO Regret wrote:

Steve Campbell wrote: I don't think there's a single NO song with a key change in it, but I knows what you means.

1963 CHANGED KEY

" I JUST WANT YOU TO BE MINE AND I DONT WANT THIS WORLD TO SHINE I DONT WANT THIS BRIDGE TO BURN OH JOHNNY WILL YOU MISS ME I JUST WANT TO FEEL FREE"

yeah but....it does the up a semi thing which all pop records do, it doesn't count. However, i thought of one....Run Wild, there's a definite change into the strings (shivering just thinking)

PS Binoche, I'v been waiting on that post since I posted this :) I was rather expecting something like "the dying reverb at the end of BM cos it means it's the longest time possible before I must suffer it again"

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Steve Campbell wrote:

NO Regret wrote:

Steve Campbell wrote: I don't think there's a single NO song with a key change in it, but I knows what you means.

1963 CHANGED KEY

" I JUST WANT YOU TO BE MINE AND I DONT WANT THIS WORLD TO SHINE I DONT WANT THIS BRIDGE TO BURN OH JOHNNY WILL YOU MISS ME I JUST WANT TO FEEL FREE"

yeah but....it does the up a semi thing which all pop records do, it doesn't count. However, i thought of one....Run Wild, there's a definite change into the strings (shivering just thinking)

PS Binoche, I'v been waiting on that post since I posted this :) I was rather expecting something like "the dying reverb at the end of BM cos it means it's the longest time possible before I must suffer it again"

up a semi what? semi-tone? sounds like a key change to me.

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Procession - the synths intro, then Hooky's brilliant bassline kicks in Your Silent Face - 'Caught me at a bad time, so why don't you piss off'. Can't say it better than that Temptation - 'No, I've never met anyone quite like you before' Barney's laugh in 'Every Little Counts' Thieves Like Us - the whole song from start to finish!

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The heavy synth before the last verse of 1963(origional version), hooky's bass on BLT, intro to Regret,outro to Ceremony, H.A.L on murder.

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Turn, the part around 2:05 to 2:15 with the lyrics "it's a wild world out there and nobody gives a damn".

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Middle Eight

Drum run

Turn your eyes from me...

End of

(for now)

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from the breakdown bit to the end of Hurt

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when i'm driving... intro to ceremony:car:

when i'm biking... intro to age of consent

when i'm spinning... the first bass kick in felix's remix of here to stay:dj:

when i'm playing quake... the pump panel reconstruction jam of confusion:machinegun:

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Patrick wrote: 2:30 to 2:59 on Turn (album version).

Agreed. The first time I listened to 'Turn' I zeroed in on that and played it over and over just sort of absorbing how nice it sounded.

Additionally: 5 8 6 when it really gets going at 2 minutes in, the break off in 'The Him' where it goes all silent and then explodes into an frenetic exhaust of sound, and the laughter in 'Every Little Counts'.

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msh wrote:

Patrick wrote: 2:30 to 2:59 on Turn (album version).

Agreed. The first time I listened to 'Turn' I zeroed in on that and played it over and over just sort of absorbing how nice it sounded.

Additionally: 5 8 6 when it really gets going at 2 minutes in, the break off in 'The Him' where it goes all silent and then explodes into an frenetic exhaust of sound, and the laughter in 'Every Little Counts'.

I listened to this over and over again recently, and totally agree this verse is pure genius. Beautiful lyrics..."sleepless eyes are open wide, sky is high, road is long" and Barney finishes it off by pleading what she wants from him.

There's so many nuggets in each song, isnt it great?? BTW, I havent seen NO live since manchester '99....got my tickets for nov 10 brixton - can't wait!!!

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currently my fave is Dracula's castle: 3:21 to end of song.. creepy Hooky bass lines and moody vampiric synths..

all time fave: Vanishing Point: 3:14 to end of song, the synth meditation-like part, Hooky's melancholic basslines, Barney's poignant lyrics

notable mentions: Behind closed doors: 0:53 to 1:00... melding Barney's vocals to the synths... amazing

Crystal: anytime the distorted guitar crashes into the chorus then sounds like it becomes part of the drumming.. ie; 1:27

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Here to Stay - We're Here to stay, we're here to stay... Sublime. EGG - Guitar/synth combo

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John Sludden wrote: The intro to Ceremony Hooky's bass on Age Of Consent The climax to Perfect Kiss Synths + melodica on Your Silent Face

Those'd be my top choices, along with the guitar solos of Run and Angel Dust.

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Ceremony intro.

Perfect Kiss frogs. I friggin' heart those frogs

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Ok, it's not exactly my favourite but it's definitely worth a mention:

Every Little Counts - where Barney is singing "every second counts, when I am with you, I think you are a pig...." and then he starts to laugh. Gets me every time.

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Every blasted second of Temptation :bow:

The frogs in Perfect Kiss

The bells in All Day Long

Intro of Way Of Life

Banging snare to start Love Vigilantes

Peter Hook's riff on anything

and most recently: after the second chorus of Krafty, the warbly synth followed by those Heavenly bells and then Hooky's ass-kicking bass riff (dies)

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some top stuff been mentioned but for me its the start of the fade out on "all day long" with the rising orchestral scale and hookys bassline going side by side. puts a lump in my throat everytime i hear it,one of their most beautifull moments i reckons.:thumb:

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I am not going to pick out any particular song but my favorite part of any NO tune is when the vocals end and the m8s get down to business. For example, Lonsome Tonight, TPK, Run, YSF all have great multiminute endings. This is not a put down to Bernard rather I enjoy the sounds of rapture they make once the vocals end.

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  1. Temptation for these vocals "Thoughts from above .........and so on ( Its a pure joy to see Barney singing those words. 2.Perfect kiss for the mixed up music that is still so fucking good to hear. 3.W.F.T.S.C. for the Guitar fading out at the end. 4.Elegia for being a great intro and instumental. 5.Dracs Castle for the Intro 6.Someone like you for Hooky's Bass bridge
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