Well, I'll give you ten I truely appreciate.
- Doubts Even Here
- Dream Attack
- Paradise
- This Time Of Night
- Your Silent Face
- Age Of Consent
- Special
- Love Vigilantes
- In A Lonely Place 10.586
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Well, I'll give you ten I truely appreciate.
Vanishing Point is much better than Fine Time. Kind of like Primitive Notion is much better than 60MPH. All Day Long would have followed BLT much better than State of the Nation.
Age Of Consent Love Vigilantes Weirdo Chosen Time
i always thought Disorder shoudve been a singel as well
by answering these quetions:
is it commercial enough for a single (song structure)? has it a good chorus/hookline ? is it suitable also for a non-newOrder audience ? ...these would've been my choices:
Face Up, This Time of Night, Sunrise, Love Vigilantes, Vanishing Point, Your Silent Face, Times Change...
Hmm, spot Amy's fave album... ;)
Amy xox
Originally posted by Amy Flower Face Up, This Time of Night, Sunrise, Love Vigilantes, Vanishing Point, Your Silent Face, Times Change...Hmm, spot Amy's fave album... ;)Amyxox
Republic?
Originally posted by Heather Kim > Originally posted by Major > Anything off technique.
I agree
Except Guilty Partner that is.
Logan - I posted this one a while back - and got a reply like...There was a time when releasing singles from an album weren't the thing...can we not leave this alone!!
Which basically closed my thread - can't remember who it was, but I was NEW on here at the time - so I was an easy target....BASTARDS![]()
Anyway my choices are Age Of Consent, As It Is, Sunrise, All Day Long, Paradise, All the Way, Vanishing Point & Primitive Notion.
Originally posted by Shug Logan - I posted this one a while back - and got a reply like...There was a time when releasing singles from an album weren't the thing...can we not leave this alone!!Which basically closed my thread - can't remember who it was, but I was NEW on here at the time - so I was an easy target....BASTARDS
Anyway my choices areAge Of Consent, As It Is, Sunrise, All Day Long, Paradise, All the Way, Vanishing Point & Primitive Notion.
There are these recurring references to the idea that it was somehow a favor to fans to keep singles off albums. Am I missing something? Doesn't that force fans to buy more records? If the single was also on the album, it would not be necessary to buy the single.
If I'm wrong, someone please educate me.
Originally posted by Patrick > Originally posted by Shug> Logan - I posted this one a while back - and got a reply like...There was a time when releasing singles from an album weren't the thing...can we not leave this alone!!> Which basically closed my thread - can't remember who it was, but I was NEW on here at the time - so I was an easy target....BASTARDS
> > Anyway my choices are> Age Of Consent, As It Is, Sunrise, All Day Long, Paradise, All the Way, Vanishing Point & Primitive Notion.
There are these recurring references to the idea that it was somehow a favor to fans to keep singles off albums. Am I missing something? Doesn't that force fans to buy more records? If the single was also on the album, it would not be necessary to buy the single.
If I'm wrong, someone please educate me.
Patsy it's a valid point - that wasn't my problem mate. This is a forum where people are posting "hypothetical" questions, therefore everything shouldn't be taken so fookin seriously - that's what annoyed me when I read the reply to my post, all I was trying to do was to find out, what other people thought, hope that's Crystal mate;)
Originally posted by Shug > Originally posted by Patrick> > > > Originally posted by Shug> > Logan - I posted this one a while back - and got a reply like...There was a time when releasing singles from an album weren't the thing...can we not leave this alone!!> > Which basically closed my thread - can't remember who it was, but I was NEW on here at the time - so I was an easy target....BASTARDS
> > > > Anyway my choices are> > Age Of Consent, As It Is, Sunrise, All Day Long, Paradise, All the Way, Vanishing Point & Primitive Notion.>
There are these recurring references to the idea that it was somehow a favor to fans to keep singles off albums. Am I missing something? Doesn't that force fans to buy more records? If the single was also on the album, it would not be necessary to buy the single.
If I'm wrong, someone please educate me.
Patsy it's a valid point - that wasn't my problem mate. This is a forum where people are posting "hypothetical" questions, therefore everything shouldn't be taken so fookin seriously - that's what annoyed me when I read the reply to my post, all I was trying to do was to find out, what other people thought, hope that's Crystal mate;)
Yes, Shug, I understand. I was just taking your post as the occasion for raising a question I've been wondering about for a while.
I do have some problems with the "worst single" thread, though. There aren't any.
Fair enough Patsy;)
As fer worst single - as a plastic jock
The only one I could pick was WIFM - I'm sure everyone's fed up hearing me mention WIFM - so this is the last time I mention IT.
Originally posted by Shug Fair enough Patsy;)As fer worst single - as a plastic jock
The only one I could pick was WIFM - I'm sure everyone's fed up hearing me mention WIFM - so this is the last time I mention IT.
Don't stop on my account, Shug. Doesn't bother me.
If this just concerned choices taken off albums for the sake of singles then I'd suggest these:
From GET READY Close Range instead of 60mph And absolutely no others from this album
From REPUBLIC Everyone Everywhere instead of Spooky/Ruined In A Day [FOUR singles was a bit much - should have stopped at three: Regret, EE, World (only cos the latter had commercial potential, and it showed, going top 20 even)]
From TECHNIQUE Vanishing Point/Mr. Disco (could do summat with that crap title tho)/All The Way instead of Round & Round/Fine Time/Run
From BROTHERHOOD other than what already came off it (B.L.T.) just Paradise, I suppose
From LOW-LIFE Sooner Than You Think instead of Sub-Culture
From PCL Age of Consent OR Your Silent Face but not both.
From MOVEMENT only Dreams Never End
okay, that's it.
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Originally posted by Patrick > Originally posted by Shug> Logan - I posted this one a while back - and got a reply like...There was a time when releasing singles from an album weren't the thing...can we not leave this alone!!> Which basically closed my thread - can't remember who it was, but I was NEW on here at the time - so I was an easy target....BASTARDS
> > Anyway my choices are> Age Of Consent, As It Is, Sunrise, All Day Long, Paradise, All the Way, Vanishing Point & Primitive Notion.
There are these recurring references to the idea that it was somehow a favor to fans to keep singles off albums. Am I missing something? Doesn't that force fans to buy more records? If the single was also on the album, it would not be necessary to buy the single.
If I'm wrong, someone please educate me.
Just to be contrary Patrick, I always thought the idea of a single was to promote the album it was lifted from. So you increase album sales which is where the real money is. I've certainly bought albums after the 3rd or 4th single release.
That said, did love it when NO left singles off albums as it made em more individualistic. Looking back though, some albums would be even better (IMHO) if the singles were included...
Brotherhood - release delayed to 1987 to include True Faith, 1963 & Touched.
Low-Life - with Thieves & Lonesome Tonight (far too good to be a B side anyways)
No?
Originally posted by Seb Briggs > Originally posted by Heather Kim> > > > Originally posted by Major > > Anything off technique.>
I agree
Except Guilty Partner that is.
Oi !!!!! Guilty Partner is the best song on there !!!
I would have loved to see Mr Disco released as a single, but not at the expense of any other single off Technique
Off the new album well, turn my way, close range and rock the shack would do alright!
Nobody likes Doubts Even Here? Who says the singles have to be pumped up, why not mellowed down? So it didn't work with Ruined. DEH is a beautiful song no?
The point about not having singles on the albums was that it made the single something to treasure. It was central to the Factory ethos about not ripping off people and treating the records as works of art not just some merchandise to be shifted.
Originally posted by bill poster The point about not having singles on the albums was that it made the single something to treasure. It was central to the Factory ethos about not ripping off people and treating the records as works of art not just some merchandise to be shifted.
What I don't understand is how keeping singles off the albums achieved the goal of "not ripping off people." Was the theory that this meant there would be more non-single tracks on the albums? But the albums were pretty short, weren't they? It was no strain to put BM on the U.S. version of PCL.
Decided to take an "a-side/b-side" approach....![]()
Originally posted by Taboo # 7 1. ICB b/w Denial2. Age of Consent b/w Leave Me Alone3. Face Up b/w Elegia4. As It Is When it Was b/w Wierdo5. Mr. Disco b/w All The Way6. Chemical b/w Young Offender7. Turn My Way b/w Run WildDecided to take an "a-side/b-side" approach....
Leave Me Alone and YO deserve to be singles themselves; but otherwise I agree on 2,3,4, and 7.