New Order to record in December (well thats what they say)

I picked up the Australian magazine 'Spin' today because of a three page interview with Hooky and read some interesting news. Here are some exerpts from the pretty long interview ... Great to here about their plans to record at the end of the year ....

"New Orders fan base ranges from music snobs to football hooligans, to pimply uni nerds to hardcore ravers". On why NO have gotten back together, 'Its simple really, it felt unfinished" explains Hook from his office on the outskirts of Manchester. With a highly lauded new album in Get Ready, a January 2002 Big Day Out tour, a single collaboration with the Chemical Brothers, an EP of album leftovers and more plans for recording in December 'unfinished' is an understatement.

'I've been there alot for holidays since", Hook says referring to Australia. 'The thing about Australian audiences is you really like to party' he offers. 'Its alot more joyous than in England. In England, things were always very studious; a gig was always very serious and quite male heavy as well. When we got to America and Australia, the audiences were more mixed which makes things much nicer, not so boyish. 'Thats the reason we used to go to America and Australia all the time and not do Europe" he continues. "Don't tell the Europeans though" .....

By the way, the 'rage' website has a picture of New Order on the couch taken from the upcoming guest program that is being shown in Australia this Saturday night. The page has a big interview and bio .... The link is www.abc.net.au/rage It says that after New Order guest programm, NO video clips will be shown ... WHOO HOOO !!!

Maybe not because it mentions the collaboration with the Chemical Brothers, then the ep of leftovers and after that says ' and more plans for recording in December'. The paragraph is highlighting the fact that they have 'unfinished' work so maybe they do plan to record later on this year ....

Although I could be wrong ... Maybe its my yearning for more releases thats making me overread this ... But if they do mean recording in December of 2001, I think the writer did a pretty shitty job ...

The journo wasn't inferring this though because he/she was quoting Hooky ... Im not saying that what he is saying is right or wrong ... Im Australian so I'll take any praise from New Order anyday ...

But yeah, hope you had a good time in Oz ...

Perhaps Hooky was referring more to the testosterone-charged atmosphere of the UK gigs. My observation was that it was certainly- as Jarvis said- more of a ruck in England. Out here it's less intense for sure, partly because there seem to be more chicks at the front. Has its pros and cons ;)

Also- and this is something of a sociological observation here- Aussie males are traditionally of the opinion that a band like NewOrder are 'a bit poofy' (the synths, the dance beats, Barney's vocals, the 'artsy' imagery, soccer associations, etc). Australia has long been a bastion of the guitar, and dance-based acts have been marginalised. Out here, the bands who attract the male-dominated, intense, riotous types of crowds that Allen was referring to are generally heavy rock, metal, nu-metal, punk, etc. Acts like System of a Down, Korn, Prodigy, Limp Bizkit, etc.

This is something that I probably should know being a New Order fan, but do they actually like soccer ? Because I remember reading somewhere where Bernard said something like "I fookin hate football", but then they do World In Motion ... Just wondering ...

Barney knows nothing about football....he supports Man Ure.

Isn't Steven Morris a Stockport County fan, or did I dream that?

I can imagine Gillian accompanying Steve to a game and discreetly asking which colour shirts she should cheer.

I expect Hooky is a WWF type of guy.

Hooky's "Australian audiences really know how to party" reply is pretty much a stock answer from touring bands trying to get on the right side of local audiences. As a Scot I'm used to hearing this patronising bollox on a regular basis. Mean's nowt.

P.S. If your reading this Mr. J. did you receive an e-mail a few weeks ago mailed from Pad at 5 A.M. from myself and a journo bird I was trying to fire into? Apologies if it makes little sense....oot me trumpet I was.

In response to the band recording again, there were mixed signals to be read into the very recent Undercover interview with Bernard (linked at that other NewOrder site).

At one point Barney states that Electronic are probably finished (possibly after be a Best Of) and that he'd now like to concentrate solely on NewOrder. He also mentions at one point that they'd consider working with Rollo in the future. Later he implies that who knows when they'll record another album (which has pretty much been the party line for the past 12 years).

All up, who knows. Maybe by the year's end they'll be sick to death of each other again and it'll be sayonara. Maybe Here to Stay will prove a watershed. Just maybe there's still another album left in the tank...

Anyhow, the interview's definitely worth a gander.

Originally posted by depthcharge In response to the band recording again, there were mixed signals to be read into the very recent Undercover interview with Bernard (linked at that other NewOrder site).At one point Barney states that Electronic are probably finished (possibly after be a Best Of) and that he'd now like to concentrate solely on NewOrder. He also mentions at one point that they'd consider working with Rollo in the future. Later he implies that who knows when they'll record another album (which has pretty much been the party line for the past 12 years). All up, who knows. Maybe by the year's end they'll be sick to death of each other again and it'll be sayonara. Maybe Here to Stay will prove a watershed. Just maybe there's still another album left in the tank...Anyhow, the interview's definitely worth a gander.

which link is it to the undercover interview?

I have heard quite alot of music groups, especially rock bands say that the crowds in Europe are alot different to those in other countries such as America and Australia ... This isn't me saying this because I've never been to a show in Europe and I guess it is stereotyping... But many bands have said that European crowds tend to stand around more and as quoted by the group Coroner, 'stand around looking cool' ....

I must admit i've never been to many gigs where people just stand around, especially in the UK. The couple of times I've seen NO on mainland Europe its also been quite lively.

Though I suspect the Durrutti Colomn gig in a few weeks may be a tad sedate.

the link is http://www.undercover.com.au/neworder.html

I have to agree with the Australian Male attitude towards New Order as a bit effeminate. Most men will deride a person if he does not know all the words to Khe Sahn and Shook Me All Nite Long, and would gleefully punch the shit out of anyone that would champion the cause with bands associated with synths and baselines like new order. Its chick music would be the cry. Even bands such as the Smiths and the Cure would be marginalised to being female orientated music. I had a pretty hard time with these guys, but never had any trouble with the ladies!!!!!!

But it is correct to say that Australian Males (unless of the other persuasion) would stay away from dance and dance like music, it is unfortunately the way we are bred, AC/DC and Chisel. This is slowly changing and dance music in australia would be your boom area so to speak, with electronic acts being the most commonly advertised gigs here in melbourne now