shellshock vs. state of the nation

Two much-maligned singles released back to back. Which is the better? And none of the above is not a valid option, as you have to choose one.

I voted for "State of the Nation" because I like the lyrics better, but I love both songs, to be honest.

State of the Nation has a cool bass sequencer, but Shellshock has better lyrics and chorus and synthesizers.

Shellshock!

State of the Nation I guess.

The best poll all summer! SLAM!

[brown]Ally[/brown] wrote: I am offended by both singles

If you're offended by the songs, why did you vote?

I prefer Shellshock. This is probably due to the fact that at the time of it's release I was seriously burned out on Low-Life. Shellshock was a tremendous show of programming and production strength and I loved it. Unfortunately, if I were to hear it for the first time today, it would sound pretty ridiculous and over the top but nostalgia can colour one's perception.

I do like State of the Nation but the fact that it was in the can for well over a year before it's release lessened it's tech appeal.

Shellshock is probably the most dated New Order record - hasn't worn well at all.

State Of The Nation also gains points for Shame Of The Nation which is much better if you ask me.

Shellshock was great at the time, but that time is well beyond us. Hated State from the moment I first heard it, but have to admit that listening to the Re: Order version the other day, maybe the song does have some merits after all. Of course it could be the fact that Re: Order make a silk purse from a sow's ear with this one!

I dont see what the problem is with Shellshock. Its a decent record,as for State Of The Nation,as someone above said Shame Of The Nation kind of pips it-after all it is more of a remix than a dub. Everyone here seems to slag those singles & Subculture,yet they`re 18 months of singles-how many of the people here found NewOrder around 85-86?

I'd have to go for Shellshock, out of sentiment of the time it was released.

I actually still don't mind it that much.

leather_girl wrote:

[brown]Ally[/brown] wrote: I am offended by both singles

If you're offended by the songs, why did you vote?

I think he was having a jab at you.

After Shellshock I decided to become an NO fan- so no contest for me, especially as State is my least fave NO song...

Never a huge fan of either, went for Shellshock, based on the fact that when played live it had a certain shambolic rocky-ness.

I voted for Shellshock. I've never got bored of it.

State of the Nation starts out well, but i feel let down by the rest of the song.

Well, of course I had to vote for my namesake! Actually, I like both songs, but I think that Shellshock has a better beat.

[orange]steve[/orange][black]one[/black] wrote: how many of the people here found NewOrder around 85-86?

Funnily enough Shellshock was the first NO record I ever had! On 7 inch. Must have been about 6 or 7 at the time.

I voted for Shellshock. For me I like the lyrics and the beat better and even though the song does sound dated at times, I can relate to the lyrics with what has gone on in my life.

Psy

State of the Nation

Shellshock 'cos that's the state I was in when it was released as I don't think I had heard it played live before it's release which was very unusual for New Order

State of the Nation... by a mile.

Shellshock was impressive for its time, but sounds pretty dated now. State of the Nation has aged much better, I think.

That and it just rocks.

shellshock

though i don't listen to these 2 songs that much

Shellshock got more spins for me at the time, though I don't listen to either that much these days.

Neither, never much liked SOTN and the Shellshock and Sub-Culture 12's were painful on the ears to say the least. Should never have worked with John Robbie.

Shellshock, honestly this 12" made me a NO-fan. And I was in love with a girl called Alex! at that time.

shellshock. no question. state of the nation sounds like a two-year-old is playing it. absolutely wretched.

shell shock for me. I love the nyc/hip hop influence in it. Am i the only one that sees this? Doesn't sound dated to my ears.

I always though shame of the nation was way more interesting than state......

jonathan wrote: I love the nyc/hip hop influence in it.

I despise it

Madame Hollywood wrote:

jonathan wrote: I love the nyc/hip hop influence in it.

I despise it

did i ask you? you just lost my mod vote. I despise jetstream because of the serbian influence.