Debut abums that are good? in no order: Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures Oasis - Definitly Maybe The Strokes - Is This It? The Doors - The Doors Massive Attack - Blue Lines The La's - The La's Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory (I hate Nu-Metal but for some reason dont mind this album) There is more but what is your opinion?
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Modern Lovers lp Talking Heads 77 Pink Floyd-Piper At The Gates... Sex Pistols-Never Mind the Bollocks (if you count Great RnR Swindle as their 'second') Elvis Costello-My Aim Is True Velvet Underground and Nico Weezer-Blue Album Beatles-Please Please Me Who-My Generation The Cure-Boys Don't Cry The Stooges
So many more, but just the ones that come to mind right now
Some that come to my mind:
Television-Marquee Moon
The Clash-The Clash (UK)
X-Los Angeles
Gang of Four-Entertainment!
Violent Femmes
The Undertones
Fugazi - 13 songs
The Clash - The Clash
Beatles - Please Please Me
Eels - Beautiful Freak
Leftfield - Leftism
Fountains of Wayne - Fountains of Wayne
Ride - Nowhere
...for starters. Note the absence of Linkin Park and Oasis (what's all that about?)
Md
Here's a few more:
Underworld [Mk2]- Dubnobasswithmyheadman Chemical Brothers- Exit Planet Dust Goldfrapp- Velvet Mountain Massive Attack- Blue Lines Portishead- Dummy Electronic- Electronic Stone Roses- Stone Roses Roni Size- New Forms Beastie Boys- Licensed to Ill DJ Shadow- Endtroducing UNKLE- Psyence Fiction NIN- Pretty Hate Machine Primal Scream- Screamadelica Daft Punk- Homework Air- Moon Safari
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The first Tindersticks record is about as perfect as pop gets, as is Mazzy Star's "She Hangs Brightly", IMHO. And I'm afraid I've gotta do my trainspotter bit here, Depth Charge: "Screamadelica" came after the Scream's jangle-pop, er, "classic", "Sonic Flower Groove".
Originally posted by martin fradley The first Tindersticks record is about as perfect as pop gets, as is Mazzy Star's "She Hangs Brightly", IMHO. And I'm afraid I've gotta do my trainspotter bit here, Depth Charge: "Screamadelica" came after the Scream's jangle-pop, er, "classic", "Sonic Flower Groove".
Actually Martin, I think I was talking complete bollocks there because there was an eponymous Primals LP somewhere before Screamadelica also.. So much for off the top of my head.
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Iconoclasm - Ghetto of the Sane (tape only, a few copies still available gratis if you ask nicely...)
Badly Drawn Boy - Hour of Bewilderbeast A tribe called quest - peoples instinctive... De La Soul - 3 foot high and rising
Hopelessly unreconstructed indie saddo that I am, I would also quite willingly die for The Sundays' "Reading, Writing and Arithmetic".
Sorry.
i like this one alot , me and my mate did it last week at work to while away the hours, number one was THE CLASH an absolute classic debut,its probably my all time fave album
Life of Brian - Flowered Up Life - Inspiral Carpets Squirrel & G-Man - Happy Mondays Electronic The Stone Roses Some Friendly - The Charlatans Quadrastate - 808 State Meat is Murder - The Smiths An old raincoat won't ever let you down - Rod Stewart Never mind the bollocks - Sex Pistols The Clash Is This It? - The Strokes
The Stone Roses Badly Drawn Boy - Hour of the Bewilderbeast Bang Gang - You Grandaddy - Under the Western Freeway Bran Van 3000 - Glee Björk - Debut Goldfrapp - Felt Mountain Garbage
This is my definitive list (in no preferential order)
MOONSHAKE - Eva Luna SAINT ETIENNE - Foxbase Alpha SIOUXSIE AND THE BANSHEES - The Scream LAIKA - Silver Apples Of The Moon PALE SAINTS - The Comforts of Madness dEUS - Worst Case Scenario FATIMA MANSIONS - Against Nature PROPAGANDA - A Secret Wish ABC - The Lexicon Of Love YAZOO - Upstairs At Eric's COLOURBOX - Colourbox THE THE - Soul Mining THE TEARDROP EXPLODES - Kilimanjaro SHANNON - Let The Music Play HAPPY MONDAYS - Squirrel & G-Man Twenty Four Hour Party People Plastic Face Carnt Smile (White Out) SUPER FURRY ANIMALS - Fuzzy Logic R.O.C. - R.O.C. THE SUGARCUBES - Life's Too Good DAWN OF THE REPLICANTS - One Head Two Arms Two Legs ELECTRONIC - Electronic CARTER USM - 101 Damnations HARRY NILSSON - Pandemonium Shadow Show GONZALES - Gonzales Uber Alles MR SCRUFF - Keep It Unreal THE GLOVE - Blue Sunshine BARK PSYCHOSIS - Hex BILLY BRAGG - Life's A Riot With Spy Vs Spy MONACO - Music For Pleasure RIALTO - Rialto THE BAND OF HOLY JOY - More Tales From The City SPOONFED HYBRID - Spoonfed Hybrid NORTHERN PICTURE LIBRARY - Alaska THE RESIDENTS - Meet The Residents TRICKY - Maxinquaye JESUS AND MARY CHAIN - Psychocandy EVEN AS WE SPEAK - Feral Pop Frenzy BIRDIE - Some Dusty KLAUS FLOURIDE - Because I Say So YOUNG MARBLE GIANTS - Colossal Youth THE RAILWAY CHILDREN - Reunion Wilderness YUKIO YUNG - Tree Climbing Goats MADNESS - One Step Beyond THE HOUSEMARTINS - London 0 Hull 4 WEEKEND - La Varieté THE 6THS - Wasps Nests THE CHRYSANTHEMUMS - Is That A Fish On Your Shoulder...Or Are You Just Pleased To See Me?
DEXY'S MIDNIGHT RUNNERS -- SEARCHING FOR THE YOUNG SOUL REBELS
............and everything I do will be funky from now on!
Are you serious Muffy? 
I actually like it but thought I was the only buffoon on the earth to own it!
Somehow I suspect that you aren't serious and I actually am that buffoon. 
Originally posted by Cheeky Monkey Are you serious Muffy?
Of course i'm serious Cheeky chops! Dexy's Midnight Runners are the finest purveyors of Northern Soul this country has ever produced and if i'm not mistaken the caper was put together in your neck of the woods, Birmingham or thereabouts. Their last album 'Don't Stand Me Down' is one of the great undiscovered classics of our time, track down a copy and be joyfully blown away. Failing that, come up and see me sometime and i'll show you my collection of Dexy's 7 inchers, or something! ;)
Crikey! I've never seen a Dexy's 7 incher before! ;)
They are indeed still seen trotting around the Midlands - sadly mostly Wolverhampton. Did you know that the Shuglet is actually related to one of the Dexy's? I told him that was so good that I'd let him be Scottish if he wanted. ;)
Originally posted by Cheeky Monkey Crikey! I've never seen a Dexy's 7 incher before! ;)They are indeed still seen trotting around the Midlands - sadly mostly Wolverhampton. Did you know that the Shuglet is actually related to one of the Dexy's? I told him that was so good that I'd let him be Scottish if he wanted. ;)
Yeah, I saw that a week or two back. I think it was Billy Adams he was claiming a link with, (Shug?), but i'm pretty sure Billy Adams has been on this side of the border just once and he was probably on the Guinness at the time so that makes him more Oirish than Scottish. Any road up Cheeky chops, the Shugster IS English and you aint palming him off onto us just because his fourth cousin twice removed on his great aunts uncles side had a pint in Scotland once! ;)
And by the way, i've got loads of Dexy's 7 inchers, it would probably take me all night to show you them! ;)
Originally posted by Muffy Any road up Cheeky chops, the Shugster IS English and you aint palming him off onto us just because his fourth cousin twice removed on his great aunts uncles side had a pint in Scotland once! ;)
What if we don't want him ? :)
Originally posted by Cheeky Monkey Are you serious Muffy?
Dexy's are well cool Cheeky!! 
Tim Burgess agrees too...:)
Originally posted by Cheeky Monkey
you can't say that!
Do we really really want anyone who chooses to be a Scot when they aren't, when they have the option of being English ? :D That'd be like me wanting to be French !!
Dexy's appreciation society starts here then!
Mmm Tim Burgess agrees with me...
Remember hearing about TB saying Come On Eileen was one of his favourite songs about 6 years ago, made me go all funny then as well... :)
Wht not, Liv was going to be Argentinian, I reckon I'd quite like to be Portuguese - in a Tony Ferrino stylie ;)
I elected to be Italian if my memory serves me correctly...I always fancied being the glamourous missus of a wiseguy 
;)
Originally posted by Kezzie
Exactly how glamorous are you? I might be able to help you out.
Not very - if I had a wiseguy's money though, I could at least give it a go....I could spend all day shopping and having manicures instead of sitting in a shitty office ;)
I can't stand by and let this injustice stand...
Meat is Murder was the Smith's second album, Shug.
While I'm here, let me add "Cake" by the Trash Can Sinatras to the list.
Originally posted by Gnu Odor I can't stand by and let this injustice stand...Meat is Murder was the Smith's second album, Shug.While I'm here, let me add "Cake" by the Trash Can Sinatras to the list.
I can't stand by and let this injustice stand...
Hatful of Hollow was The Smiths' second album :)
Loved the debate on my nationality 
I love ye's all
Here's a run-down (in order) of Shug's Blood
Parentage - makes me Scottish
Grandparents - makes me Irish
Henrik Larsson & Johan Mjallby - make me Swedish
Visited Wales when I was 3 - which makes me Welsh....and finally
Being born here - makes me *******
And cheers for correcting our good friend BO - Timbo
Originally posted by Zizou Zidane I can't stand by and let this injustice stand...Hatful of Hollow was The Smiths' second album :)
Are you gonna sit there and tell me that Hatful of Hollow was a proper album, not a singles compilation?
Do you want to step outside?
...(We Smiths fans, as you know, are a very manly lot who pick fights over anything.)
Originally posted by Zizou Zidane > Originally posted by Cheeky Monkey>
Do we really really want anyone who chooses to be a Scot when they aren't, when they have the option of being English ? :D That'd be like me wanting to be French !!
Well, ZZ, I want to be Dutch. Still do. Not getting very far with trying to master the language however - apologies Mario, Jim, YO, and other fine Netherlanders on this forum! Het spijt mij!! :(
Cheers Gnu - that made me laugh mate
Espescially the stereotype you have of the average Smith fan;)
Originally posted by Gnu Odor I can't stand by and let this injustice stand...Meat is Murder was the Smith's second album, Shug.While I'm here, let me add "Cake" by the Trash Can Sinatras to the list.
OBSCURITY KNOCKS - WHAT A SONG!!!!!
An old girlfriend of mine used to work for Go!Discs in the late 80s/early 90s and used to send me lots of freebies - this TCS album included!! :)
Originally posted by Cheeky Monkey Watch it Muffy I might just hold you to that! ;)
Be warned Cheeky chops, I tend to get lost in unadulterated passion when i'm showing off my 7 inchers, but if your game.............
Originally posted by Kezzie > Originally posted by Cheeky Monkey> Are you serious Muffy?
Dexy's are well cool Cheeky!!
Tim Burgess agrees too...:)
Kezzie baby, I knew you were a canny lass the minute I clapped eyes on you. Not only are Dexy's cool though, they happen to be pretty damn fine at knocking out a decent tune! Welcome to the society of the Midnight Runners!
Originally posted by Kezzie
Do you know the way to Glasgow Kezzie? It's not Milan but we'd get there soon enough!
Originally posted by Cheeky Monkey Wht not, Liv was going to be Argentinian, I reckon I'd quite like to be Portuguese - in a Tony Ferrino stylie ;)
You should see me on the kareoke Cheeky chops, Tony Ferrino just about sums it up!
Originally posted by ShugZV
Shugster, face it wee man you're ENGLISH! Embrace it!
Originally posted by Muffy > Originally posted by ShugZV>
Shugster, face it wee man you're ENGLISH! Embrace it!
OK OK OK
Muffmeister - This week I'll mostly be BRITISH
Originally posted by ShugZV OK OK OKMuffmeister - This week I'll mostly be ENGLISH
OH MY GOD....he admitted it!!!!;)
Liv
Hi Muffy.... "I can't recall the day when i last heard from you..." xx
Originally posted by ShugZV
Not bad, but i prefer Patagonia... Its full of Welsh people you know....
Having said that, if you were a celt, you could have joined me! lololololol
Liv
Originally posted by Liv
I'll snail you soon babe with some shocking news! I'm still too stunned to share it at the moment, but soon!
Originally posted by Muffy > Originally posted by Kezzie>
Do you know the way to Glasgow Kezzie? It's not Milan but we'd get there soon enough!
Well, if I can get myself to Paris, I'm sure I can get to Glasgow - I don't need a passport to get there, do I? ;)
But then again, you'd have to put up with my constant yakking like you did that night at Brickhouse
Originally posted by Kezzie > Originally posted by Muffy > > > > Originally posted by Kezzie> >
Do you know the way to Glasgow Kezzie? It's not Milan but we'd get there soon enough!
Well, if I can get myself to Paris, I'm sure I can get to Glasgow - I don't need a passport to get there, do I? ;)
But then again, you'd have to put up with my constant yakking like you did that night at Brickhouse
No passport required, only an invite, and it's always an open invitation for a canny lass who likes to shake it to some thumpin' choons! ;)
As for your 'constant yakking', it's always better to have something to say than nothing at all. Mind you you'll have to slow it down a bit, I did have problems with the Geordie accent now and again! :p
Originally posted by Muffy > Originally posted by Kezzie> > > > Originally posted by Muffy > > > > > > > Originally posted by Kezzie> > >
Do you know the way to Glasgow Kezzie? It's not Milan but we'd get there soon enough!
As for your 'constant yakking', it's always better to have something to say than nothing at all. Mind you you'll have to slow it down a bit, I did have problems with the Geordie accent now and again! :p
Had'away an' shite :D
Joy division - unknown pleasures tubeway army - tubeway army d.a.f - Die Kleinen Und Die Bösen p.i.l - first issue
christian death - only theatre of pain einsturzende neubauten - kollaps snog - lies inc modern lovers - modern lovers the ramones - the ramones
electronic - electronic suede - suede stone roses - stone roses radiohead - pablo honey jeff buckley - grace ash - 1977 jj72 - jj72 smashing pumpkins - siamese dream garbage - garbage oasis - definately maybe smiths - smiths
all have a lot in common: shit self titles album names!
The tricky question, though, is what bands followed up a truly suckworthy debut with a great second album?
Two to get you started:
New Order Public Enemy
Originally posted by Matt Hicks electronic - electronicsuede - suedestone roses - stone rosesradiohead - pablo honeyjeff buckley - graceash - 1977jj72 - jj72smashing pumpkins - siamese dreamgarbage - garbageoasis - definately maybesmiths - smithsall have a lot in common: shit self titles album names!
errr...whaaa? not *all* of those do.
and Siamese Dream was the Pumpkins' second album. Gish was their first proper album...and their best, too! so it does fit in well in this thread...
Originally posted by Old Blue Doves - Lost SoulsACR - To Each...Puressence - PuressenceKent - Isola
"Isola" wasn´t Kent debut album.
I won't waste too much space agreeing with some of the artists nominated earlier (The Stone Roses, The Charlatans, Bjork, De La Soul, The Housemartins, Massive Attack, Daft Punk, The La's, Oasis, Electronic) but here are a few that I haven't seen mentioned yet:
Baby Ford - Ford Trax (if you haven't heard of Peter "Baby" Ford he was a pioneer of acid house and techno whose late 1980's albums should be on any dance magazine's list of great dance albums) Nirvana - Bleach The Orb - Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld (proper chillout, not the MoS version) Manic Street Preachers - Generation Terrorists Foo Fighters - Foo Fighters Black Grape - It's Great When You're Straight...Yeah (am I alone in thinking it's better than all the Mondays' albums put together?) The Bluetones - Expecting To Fly Gomez - Bring It On Basement Jaxx - Remedy The Streets - Original Pirate Material (I know there's been a lot of hype about it but it genuinely is a brilliant album)
By the way, on the trainspotter front "Moon Safari" wasn't Air's debut album - "Premiers Symptomes" came out first but was re-released with extra tracks after Moon Safari became a hit.
Originally posted by Gnu Odor The tricky question, though, is what bands followed up a truly suckworthy debut with a great second album?Two to get you started:New OrderPublic Enemy
Radiohead...
Muffy, perhaps an image I'm best left with - you doing Geno in a Tony Ferrino stylie whist showing the world your 7 inchers. It could make a girl go all funny... :happytongue:
Did yam have problems with the Brummy accent then our kid/ bab? :)
Originally posted by Gnu Odor The tricky question, though, is what bands followed up a truly suckworthy debut with a great second album?Two to get you started:New OrderPublic Enemy
massive attack
Originally posted by Cheeky Monkey Muffy, perhaps an image I'm best left with - you doing Geno in a Tony Ferrino stylie whist showing the world your 7 inchers. It could make a girl go all funny... :happytongue:Did yam have problems with the Brummy accent then our kid/ bab? :)
I'd rather do 'Breaking Down The Walls Of Heartache', the b-side to Geno, if that's ok Cheeky chops. My Toni Ferrino stylie could carry that one off no probs while you come over all goosebumpy fondling my rather splendid 7 inchers! :D
I found your Brummy accent to be a very soft one so i'd have no probs working out the special requests you'd be crying out for once i'd gotten into full flow! ;)
Originally posted by Ian Pillar > Originally posted by Gnu Odor> The tricky question, though, is what bands followed up a truly suckworthy debut with a great second album?> > Two to get you started:> > New Order> Public Enemy
massive attack
In what way is "Blue Lines" suckworthy? I happen to believe that "Protection" is the best Massive Attack album (it's more varied) but "Blue Lines" is almost as good.
Originally posted by Muffy > Originally posted by Cheeky Monkey> Muffy, perhaps an image I'm best left with - you doing Geno in a Tony Ferrino stylie whist showing the world your 7 inchers. It could make a girl go all funny... :happytongue:> > Did yam have problems with the Brummy accent then our kid/ bab? :)
I'd rather do 'Breaking Down The Walls Of Heartache', the b-side to Geno, if that's ok Cheeky chops. My Toni Ferrino stylie could carry that one off no probs while you come over all goosebumpy fondling my rather splendid 7 inchers! :D
I found your Brummy accent to be a very soft one so i'd have no probs working out the special requests you'd be crying out for once i'd gotten into full flow! ;)
You can play whichever of your 'splendid' seven inchers you like Mufferrino ;)
Originally posted by Gnu Odor The tricky question, though, is what bands followed up a truly suckworthy debut with a great second album?Two to get you started:New OrderPublic Enemy
In most cases underwhelming (rather than suckworthy) debuts were followed by mindblowing second albums for all the following:-
DISCO INFERNO - D.I. Go Pop THE BOO RADLEYS - Everything's Alright Forever MY BLOODY VALENTINE - Isn't Anything RADIOHEAD - The Bends NINE INCH NAILS - The Downward Spiral (not counting the blistering "Broken" as it was technically an EP) PIGFACE - Fook BEASTIE BOYS - Paul's Boutique COCTEAU TWINS - Head Over Heels THE CURE - Seventeen Seconds STEREOLAB - Transient Random Noise Bursts With Announcements SLADE - Slade Alive! A.R. KANE - "i" OTHER TWO - Superhighways SIX BY SEVEN - The Closer You Get CURVE - Cuckoo THE WAKE - Here Comes Everybody THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS - Lincoln THIS MORTAL COIL - Filigree And Shadow HIS NAME IS ALIVE - Home Is In Your Head
Originally posted by Cheeky Monkey
You can play whichever of your 'splendid' seven inchers you like Mufferrino ;)
Maybe Cheeky chops, if you feel so inclined, i'll just let you choose one yourself and you can play it again and again and again till you're heart's content! ;)
How could I possibly choose from such a splendid array of seven inchers, you'll just have to surprise me! ;) Although Celtic Soul Brothers springs to mind if you remember the rest of that title :happytongue:
Originally posted by Cheeky Monkey How could I possibly choose from such a splendid array of seven inchers, you'll just have to surprise me! ;) Although Celtic Soul Brothers springs to mind if you remember the rest of that title :happytongue:
More please and thank you! A phrase often heard when the Muffbox gets the ol' 7 inchers out to play! ;)
P.S. Karen says if I don't stop flirting with you Cheeky chops, it, I mean they, won't be coming out to play again! Oh dear!:(
Originally posted by Muffy, Karens plaything!! > Originally posted by Kezzie> >
Jings, that can't be good! 
Rough translation 'Go away with yourself young man' ;)
Rest assured Muffy, it's way of showing affection back in Gateshead :)
Originally posted by Oh Look! There Goes The Laughing Martian Again!! In most cases underwhelming (rather than suckworthy) debuts were followed by mindblowing second albums for all the following:-
Of course most of these are dead on; esp. Beastie Boys, TMBG and Radiohead.
But you certainly must have transposed Pigface (Gub lords over the relatively feeble Fook) and Curve, whose Cukoo is an abysmal, misguided, pale shadow of the genius that is Doppelganger.
Just wanted to clear that up.
How about great first two albums followed by absolute shite third ones ? Echo and the Bunnymen !
Originally posted by Kezzie > Originally posted by Muffy, Karens plaything!!> > > > Originally posted by Kezzie> > > >
Jings, that can't be good!
Rough translation 'Go away with yourself young man' ;)
Rest assured Muffy, it's way of showing affection back in Gateshead :)
Heavens, and here was me thinking I was being told to go and see a friend off to the coast! You lives an' you learns. :)
Apologies to the lovely Karen, but what have Dexy's seven inchers got to do with flirting?
Anyway, sorry to you both, I have no intentions of stealing your seven inchers from Karen! :)
Originally posted by Gnu Odor > Originally posted by Oh Look! There Goes The Laughing Martian Again!!> > In most cases underwhelming (rather than suckworthy) debuts were followed by mindblowing second albums for all the following:-
Of course most of these are dead on; esp. Beastie Boys, TMBG and Radiohead.
But you certainly must have transposed Pigface (Gub lords over the relatively feeble Fook) and Curve, whose Cukoo is an abysmal, misguided, pale shadow of the genius that is Doppelganger.
Just wanted to clear that up.
Don't you like Cuckoo? I think half of it ROCKS!!
(Missing Link - single version and Trent Reznor remix - is still my fave Curve song of all time - it kicks ass!)
As for "Gub" - Pigface frustrate me cos they always wallop out LPS in a specific sequence: a studio one, then a live one, then another studio one, then a remix one, then another live one, and then another studio one...etc - to date I still have yet to find FIVE of their albums!! - if "Welcome To Mexico....ASSHOLE!!" is allowed to be counted as their second LP, I'd vote for that! One of the most shambolically brilliant live albums of all time!! "Fook", however, pales in comparison with their next (third) studio album - "NOTES FROM THEE UNDERGROUND" which remains my most-played Pigface album...EVER! Sheer psychotic beats'n'loops sandblasted genius!!
I wish i could be amongst the people who contribute to Pigface - I need to drop Martin Atkins a line - it would be my dream come true to play in that collective- Oh yes!!
i have to say too, i really rate Cuckoo pretty highly. in fact, i was often convinced it was my theme album for a very long time. not that Doppelganger is bad...quite the contrary. but i really do like Cuckoo quite a lot. dammit.
Originally posted by Cheeky Monkey Apologies to the lovely Karen, but what have Dexy's seven inchers got to do with flirting?Anyway, sorry to you both, I have no intentions of stealing your seven inchers from Karen! :)
I don't know whether to laugh or cry, but the silly little bugger's gone and done one again! To 'sort her head out'!!!!!!!!! 
:(
Originally posted by Oh Look! There Goes The Laughing Martian Again!! I wish i could be amongst the people who contribute to Pigface - I need to drop Martin Atkins a line - it would be my dream come true to play in that collective- Oh yes!!
Apparently all you have to do is show up, according to this review. (BTW, Peabody's is a 10 minute walk from my apartment -- and I DIDN'T GO 'cause I'm old and feeble.)
http://www.freetimes.com/issues/1015/music-beingthere.php3
And here's a nice chat with the other Martin. I take great comfort in this quote: "Every single part of my life doesn’t have to make sense in relation to Pigface. The car that I drive makes sense for my family, but it doesn’t make sense for my press release."
P.S. About once every year I drag out Cuckoo and give it another spin, just to see if I "get it" yet. It's got to be OK, right? It's Curve! But I just hate it (except Missing Link and Superblaster).
If you're in search of hot aural sex, you're welcome to download raw, unprocessed, naked vocal tracks from Toni right here:
http://www.curve.co.uk/remixer2.htm
Oh yeah, baby...work that mic.
Oops! 
I'm sure she'll be back very soon. Was tempted to say something about 7 inchers but thought she might already be on her way to Tamworth to give me one of these 
V. sorry Muffy
Originally posted by Gnu Odor P.S. About once every year I drag out Cuckoo and give it another spin, just to see if I "get it" yet. It's got to be OK, right? It's Curve! But I just hate it (except Missing Link and Superblaster).If you're in search of hot aural sex, you're welcome to download raw, unprocessed, naked vocal tracks from Toni right here:http://www.curve.co.uk/remixer2.htmOh yeah, baby...work that mic.
eh, well...i s'pose everyone has one of those! out of curiosity, is there any other Curve you DON'T like?
i stand by my earlier assertion that i really do love Cuckoo. and am still amused at the sheer number of glaring typographical errors in the liner notes to Open Day at the Hate Fest...
Originally posted by janaki > Originally posted by Gnu Odor> P.S. About once every year I drag out Cuckoo and give it another spin, just to see if I "get it" yet. It's got to be OK, right? It's Curve! But I just hate it (except Missing Link and Superblaster).> > If you're in search of hot aural sex, you're welcome to download raw, unprocessed, naked vocal tracks from Toni right here:> > http://www.curve.co.uk/remixer2.htm> > Oh yeah, baby...work that mic.
eh, well...i s'pose everyone has one of those! out of curiosity, is there any other Curve you DON'T like?
i stand by my earlier assertion that i really do love Cuckoo. and am still amused at the sheer number of glaring typographical errors in the liner notes to Open Day at the Hate Fest...
Me too Janaki - I spotted them too!!
Dya think that record is as good as their other stuff?
Originally posted by Gnu Odor > Originally posted by Oh Look! There Goes The Laughing Martian Again!!> I wish i could be amongst the people who contribute to Pigface - I need to drop Martin Atkins a line - it would be my dream come true to play in that collective- Oh yes!!>
Apparently all you have to do is show up, according to this review. (BTW, Peabody's is a 10 minute walk from my apartment -- and I DIDN'T GO 'cause I'm old and feeble.)
http://www.freetimes.com/issues/1015/music-beingthere.php3
And here's a nice chat with the other Martin. I take great comfort in this quote: "Every single part of my life doesn’t have to make sense in relation to Pigface. The car that I drive makes sense for my family, but it doesn’t make sense for my press release."
http://www.freetimes.com/issues/1013/music-pigface.php3
Thanks for those links Brett - much appreciated - I should get off my ass and email Mr Atkins sometime soon and tell Him (cap H - note!) that I wanna bung some shit over to him on a CD and see what he thinks -
jeez, I'm quaking at the excitement of that prospect already!!!
And thanks for the Curve links - I know the site - I click into it quite frequently actually - don't you think those ambient sound buttons are cool? I love them to bits - I keep playing them like some kid who's just discovered the novelty of it all!!!
Might use them on a recording of mine one day in fact...If I can download/copy them that is.....
Mine in no order 1.Ride-Nowhere 2.Curve-Doppelganger 3.Chemical Bros-Exit Planet Dust 4.Monaco-Music for Pleasure 5.Saint Etienne-Foxbase Alpha 6.Fugazi 13 songs 7.No-Movement 8.Jawbox-Grippe(Has an amazing cover of JD's "Something must break") Check it out it is awesome!!!!!!!!:) 9.Revenge-One True Passion 10.Smashing Pumpkins-Gish
There is mine-so ha! :moon: Unfortunately my list is not as long as Marty's! He is so good with making super long lists ;) Anyone else notice that or was it just me? :)
I did notice, Kimberly, that you curiously added a top-ten element to the mix, indicating that you (1) have confused the "top-ten albums" and "good debut albums" threads; or (2) harbor a compulsive need for order and hierarchy.
A neworderonline.com psychologist will be in touch soon.
;)
P.S. "Nowhere" rules...I just wish it didn't suffer from the supersucky mix syndrome that so plagued Husker Du.
Originally posted by Gnu Odor I did notice, Kimberly, that you curiously added a top-ten element to the mix, indicating that you (1) have confused the "top-ten albums" and "good debut albums" threads; or (2) harbor a compulsive need for order and hierarchy.A neworderonline.com psychologist will be in touch soon.;)P.S. "Nowhere" rules...I just wish it didn't suffer from the supersucky mix syndrome that so plagued Husker Du.
It is that compulsive need for order and hieracrchy-I have to have an even #'s of things-not odd ones! When I was thinking of the list only 10 came to mind at the time! Nowhere just rules! Are you a Bob Mould fan? I just love his solo albums! Do you like SUGAR too? I would like to hear your input on Bob Mould and SUGAR! Then again maybe we shouldn't talk about other music artists, I wouldn't want anyone to frown at me :( ;);)
Originally posted by Gnu Odor I did notice, Kimberly, that you curiously added a top-ten element to the mix, indicating that you (1) have confused the "top-ten albums" and "good debut albums" threads; or (2) harbor a compulsive need for order and hierarchy.A neworderonline.com psychologist will be in touch soon.;)P.S. "Nowhere" rules...I just wish it didn't suffer from the supersucky mix syndrome that so plagued Husker Du.
I think that might be me by default. Shug was setting up shop as a therapist but didn't pass the licensure exam because he went drinking and watching footie instead.
And considering that I am in industrial/organizational psychology and not clinical or counseling the best I can say is make sure your list is job-related. That'll be 200 dollars for the consultation.
Good debut (to stay on-topic) Pavement- Slanted and Enchanted Replacements- Sorry Ma, Forgot to Take Out the Trash (just for Johnny's Gonna Die, Don't Ask Why, and the only ode to Husker Du ever -Something to Du)
Haven't you read the admin rules yet? You must be a Bob Mould fan to post here...although there recently was a thread suggesting that Grant Hart was the musical genius.
Fun Bob memory...seeing Husker Du (on TV) perform in a Minneapolis park first thing in the morning for the Today show, Bob then interviewed by :\puke: Bryant Gumble.
Just last weekend I saw Bob's new solo record in the racks but left it there...I'll have to hear something first, though...apparently Bob isn't in my "buy regardless" category.
I saw Bob on the Workbook tour, the Black Sheets of Rain tour -- with opening act Ultra Vivid Scene 
, and on the Bob Mould tour in Philly -- by that time it was a solo acoustic gig. I also saw Sugar come through town twice in between.
Of course, all of this is back when I used to leave my house and stay up past 8 p.m.
By the way, Bob's guitar playing on Fuel is an absolute rip-off of Kevin Shields of MBV, who worked on the Primal Scream record XTRMNTR, which also featured a guest spot by Bernard Sumner of New Order.
contortions: buy contortions! dk: fresh fruit for rotting vegetables sonik youth: confusion is sex (if we are talking about LPs) pixies: surfer rosa skinny puppy: back and forth (technically a demo) OR remission (an LP-length EP) OR bites (open for debate)
does anyone know which swans album is actually the debut? i'm all fucked up on chronology...
Originally posted by false head contortions: buy contortions!dk: fresh fruit for rotting vegetablessonik youth: confusion is sex (if we are talking about LPs)pixies: surfer rosaskinny puppy: back and forth (technically a demo) OR remission (an LP-length EP) OR bites (open for debate)does anyone know which swans album is actually the debut? i'm all fucked up on chronology...
bout time someone mentioned the pixies on this thread - though are we counting c'mon pilgrim the mini lp as the debut or not? s'pose on cd its surfer rosa so that gets round it.
I'm always happy to mention the Pixies; however, I wasn't sure how to work them into this thread. In the states, how did it go? There was the Come On Pilgrim mini-LP; then Surfer Rosa; then (?) Doolittle; then (?), for a brief glorious time, Come On Pilgrim and Surfer Rosa on one CD; then Bossanova; then Come On Pilgrim and Surfer Rosa, sadly split up again on two separate CDs; then Tompe Le Monde? I don't know exactly.
That combo CD was a beautiful thing...if that counted as a debut album, then hell yes...amazing debut. Best of all time in any genre or universe.
Did I mention that I saw the Pixies at Peabody's in Cleveland with special opening act...The Happy Mondays?
That was a freaking disaster. As soon as the Mondays hit the start button on the drum machine, it was all over with that crowd. Oh man...such ugliness.
...shudder...
Originally posted by false head contortions: buy contortions!dk: fresh fruit for rotting vegetablessonik youth: confusion is sex (if we are talking about LPs)pixies: surfer rosaskinny puppy: back and forth (technically a demo) OR remission (an LP-length EP) OR bites (open for debate)does anyone know which swans album is actually the debut? i'm all fucked up on chronology...
Seems to me that Filth was the first Swans album.
Originally posted by janaki > Originally posted by Gnu Odor> P.S. About once every year I drag out Cuckoo and give it another spin, just to see if I "get it" yet. It's got to be OK, right? It's Curve! But I just hate it (except Missing Link and Superblaster).> > If you're in search of hot aural sex, you're welcome to download raw, unprocessed, naked vocal tracks from Toni right here:> > http://www.curve.co.uk/remixer2.htm> > Oh yeah, baby...work that mic.
eh, well...i s'pose everyone has one of those! out of curiosity, is there any other Curve you DON'T like?
i stand by my earlier assertion that i really do love Cuckoo. and am still amused at the sheer number of glaring typographical errors in the liner notes to Open Day at the Hate Fest...
Janni, you know if you go to Curve's Website that you can send in to get the corrected liner notes on not sure which album(never paid attention-GIFT or ODATHF?) Anyways they said whoever printed it screwed it up and wasn't caught till after it was released. They posted on the site to let them know if you need a new one! Just thought I would share that with anyone who noticed The screw up and would like the correct liner notes! :)
You can send it to their PO BOX address http://www.curve.co.uk/mail1.html
Originally posted by Oh Look! There Goes The Laughing Martian Again!! > Originally posted by janaki> > > eh, well...i s'pose everyone has one of those! out of curiosity, is there any other Curve you DON'T like? > i stand by my earlier assertion that i really do love Cuckoo. and am still amused at the sheer number of glaring typographical errors in the liner notes to Open Day at the Hate Fest...
Me too Janaki - I spotted them too!!
Dya think that record is as good as their other stuff?
dunno HOW i missed this one originally...oh wait, cos that weekend was absolutely NUTS, that's why! sorry about that, Marty! :o
i think a lot of stuff on it is good, but i don't think it's nearly as cohesive as any of their other proper records. then again, that's to be expected...it *is* meant as just an odd collection of rare stuff, after all.
song-by-song, i'd say that yes, some of it does indeed hold up to their best stuff.
and as always, when Curve is on, they are DEAD on.
Originally posted by Kimberly Raymond-Jensen Mine in no order1.Ride-Nowhere2.Curve-Doppelganger3.Chemical Bros-Exit Planet Dust4.Monaco-Music for Pleasure5.Saint Etienne-Foxbase Alpha6.Fugazi 13 songs7.No-Movement8.Jawbox-Grippe(Has an amazing cover of JD's "Something must break") Check it out it is awesome!!!!!!!!:)9.Revenge-One True Passion10.Smashing Pumpkins-GishThere is mine-so ha! :moon: Unfortunately my list is not as long as Marty's! He is so good with making super long lists ;) Anyone else notice that or was it just me? :)
hey again Kim!
...you like Jawbox! (i unfortunately haven't got any of their stuff proper, but they blew me away live and i've always meant to...just never quite got around to it. like so many other things. :D )
...and you rate Gish so highly!
that really is SP's best album, i think. one of the best things that the Pumpkins ever did was to remaster it when they got a bit of money...
Originally posted by Gnu Odor I'm always happy to mention the Pixies; however, I wasn't sure how to work them into this thread. In the states, how did it go? There was the Come On Pilgrim mini-LP; then Surfer Rosa; then (?) Doolittle; then (?), for a brief glorious time, Come On Pilgrim and Surfer Rosa on one CD; then Bossanova; then Come On Pilgrim and Surfer Rosa, sadly split up again on two separate CDs; then Tompe Le Monde? I don't know exactly.That combo CD was a beautiful thing...if that counted as a debut album, then hell yes...amazing debut. Best of all time in any genre or universe.Did I mention that I saw the Pixies at Peabody's in Cleveland with special opening act...The Happy Mondays? That was a freaking disaster. As soon as the Mondays hit the start button on the drum machine, it was all over with that crowd. Oh man...such ugliness....shudder...
i never quite kept them straight, either...so i couldn't really have put them into this thread. a lot of Pixies stuff is certainly worthwhile...damn, sometimes i really miss them a lot. Doolittle is one of my favourite albums ever...i have very fond memories of that and summer road trips. and sitting out on my sister's front porch in scorching heat with lemonade and/or iced tea and having nothing better to do than force any and all passerby to partake of the Pixies... :D
Originally posted by Kimberly Raymond-Jensen
wow, Kim! thanks for that info! it would have to be ODatHF simply cos Gift hasn't got any proper liner notes...in fact, the inside of the slipcase tells you to go to their website for lyrics. so nothing there to screw up!
i shall definitely have to check that out! thanks very, very much! :D
Originally posted by janaki > Originally posted by Kimberly Raymond-Jensen> Mine in no order> 1.Ride-Nowhere> 2.Curve-Doppelganger> 3.Chemical Bros-Exit Planet Dust> 4.Monaco-Music for Pleasure> 5.Saint Etienne-Foxbase Alpha> 6.Fugazi 13 songs> 7.No-Movement> 8.Jawbox-Grippe(Has an amazing cover of JD's "Something must break") Check it out it is awesome!!!!!!!!:)> 9.Revenge-One True Passion> 10.Smashing Pumpkins-Gish> > There is mine-so ha! :moon: Unfortunately my list is not as long as Marty's! He is so good with making super long lists ;) Anyone else notice that or was it just me? :)
hey again Kim!
...you like Jawbox! (i unfortunately haven't got any of their stuff proper, but they blew me away live and i've always meant to...just never quite got around to it. like so many other things. :D )
...and you rate Gish so highly!
that really is SP's best album, i think. one of the best things that the Pumpkins ever did was to remaster it when they got a bit of money...
again(I love the little waving guy) Yes, I am a huge fan of Jawbox. They did an awrsome cover of "Something Must Break" off of GRIPPE. I actually used to be friends/pen pal buddies with the lead singer J. Robbins. We knew some of the same people when I lived in Okinawa! I haven't talked to him in a few years.:( He is such a wonderful guy to talk to. He and I talked music all the time. He and the band really liked JD so they did a JD cover. All I have to say is that you really should check out some of their albums. All of them are really AMAZING. They were one of my favorite bands to see live too. I have pics that I took of them :) I for some reason think J. Robbins is just one of the sexiest men alive!;););) Let me know when you finally listen to them! J.'s new band is called Burning Airlines and they are quite good too! Okay, I must shut up. When I get on one of my favorite bands, I just keep rambling!:) It is a sad shame that they broke up:(
I love SP's Gish album too. I wasn't sure how I would feel about ADORE when it came it, but I really like that album too!
(responding to GREEN) filth is fantastic. especially gang, power for power and weakling. i was driving around listening to it this very afternoon
Originally posted by Gnu Odor I'm always happy to mention the Pixies; however, I wasn't sure how to work them into this thread. In the states, how did it go? There was the Come On Pilgrim mini-LP; then Surfer Rosa; then (?) Doolittle; then (?), for a brief glorious time, Come On Pilgrim and Surfer Rosa on one CD; then Bossanova; then Come On Pilgrim and Surfer Rosa, sadly split up again on two separate CDs; then Tompe Le Monde? I don't know exactly.That combo CD was a beautiful thing...if that counted as a debut album, then hell yes...amazing debut. Best of all time in any genre or universe.Did I mention that I saw the Pixies at Peabody's in Cleveland with special opening act...The Happy Mondays? That was a freaking disaster. As soon as the Mondays hit the start button on the drum machine, it was all over with that crowd. Oh man...such ugliness....shudder...
over in th e uk the order was c'mon pilgrim surfer rosa doolittle bossanova trompe le monde the bbc sessions death to the pixies the complete b sides
afaik c'mon pilgrim has always been on the surfer rosa cd over here & not sure if c'mon pilgrim was import only. poss the only debut album to have two versions of the same song that weren't remixes?
