Steves drums

Anyone else feel that Steve should put away that toy drum kit hes been using and dust down his real kit for the new gigs. IMHO the Roland electronic kit just doesn't cut it live and tends to sound a bit too 'processed' especially (obviously) on the acoustic tracks like ceremony, love vigilantes atmosphere etc. I always felt some of the beauty of new order comes fron the meshing of electronic and acoustic percussion.

Never thought about the drums to be honest, but you have a point !

Whaddya say Marty ?

I agree wholeheartedly, and further beseech Mr. Morris to pack up his Roland V-drums and ship them to me immediately for safekeeping.

Hey, post No. 200! Do I get a ham or something?

Originally posted by Zizou Zidane Never thought about the drums to be honest, but you have a point !Whaddya say Marty ?

I actually tested a set of the very same Roland drums at the local MUSICAL INSTRUMENT EMPORIUM here in Manchester just last Wednesday - as well as three other less sophisticated models. All of them are a bit on the pricey side. The top range kit (with over 400 triggered combinations of sounds) is over £4000!! The others are between £1000 and £3000. Fooking cool it was too - got all manner of triggered sounds from just hitting the things in different places [actually many of the acoustic sounds are GENUINE SAMPLES FROM KITS - you would actually have trouble trying to tell the difference, as they are extremely lifelike!!], so I don't see what the fuss is about regarding Steve choosing to use this kit in live gigs.
But the good thing about these kits is that you CAN combine them with acoustic drums and cymbals to create a whole custom set-up to suit your own needs, whilst also having the freedom to programme your own drum sounds to whichever songs you see fit to play. For instance, with this sort of set-up, Steve could actually play LIVE the 303/909/808 drum patterns on "Vanishing Point" albeit in real time (not sequenced like they are on the studio version of the track). I know I would anyway; then he could switch to acoustic set up for, say, Ceremony or AOC....

Drum kits - what fun they are. Pity mine always fall apart when I fooking play them :(

Originally posted by Oh Look! There Goes The Laughing Martian Again!! Drum kits - what fun they are. Pity mine always fall apart when I fooking play them :(

I'm beginning to harbour second thoughts about wanting to check out your band now, judging by your comments there matey...... :D

On a slow day, Martian Manhunter, you'll have to check out the brand new virtual DrumKAT:

http://www.alternatemode.com/virtualkat.shtml

When I'm not beating my children with sticks, I turn my agression on my DrumKAT. I was ever so proud to see Mr. Morris with one in the Peel/Transmission video; his is apparently mounted over his hi-hat and is swiveled around when called into service.

Of course real acoustic drums are a wonderful thing, but you'll got to add to the bill the cost of at least five decent microphones, plus enough mixer channels to house them. (Of course they didn't know this back in the old days of recording, so we got some amazing one-microphone ambient recordings of Clyde Stubblefield, etc.).

My deepest apologies to anyone who stumbled into this drum-centric thread by mistake.

i can sympathise with what a pain it is to mic proper acoustic drum kits. particularly if you've got a very elaborate setup...my drummer's kit recently got stripped down a bit, so it's easier...but still a humongous pain. lucky me that i'm not the one who has to do it...

(and Gnu, before you mention again, we should hopefully have MP3s available soon. ;) )

There's a great deal to be said for being able to carry your whole drum kit onstage in one hand, plug in a pair of audio cables and be done with it. We used to play out with a "free jazz" sort of trio who would DI everything into the PA -- no amps onstage at all. Setup time about a minute.

Of course, I was the bass player in my band, so I had the big-ass amp that weighed 847 lbs. But that's how I account for these huge biceps. Flex flex flex.

*sighs wistfully* although our setup time has improved vastly, i can only drool when confronted with descriptions of being able to walk onstage and set up so quickly!

one of our guitarists commented a loooong time ago that this band takes the longest of any band he's ever been in to prepare to play. (and he's been in a *lot* of bands.) he was used to just plugging in his guitar, maybe setting up a mic stand and plugging in a mic, and going. and of course, everyone else in the band doing roughly the same thing...i don't think they really mic the drums much in his other current band, unless they're recording. though i could be mistaken.

he used to particularly envy me, though...cos i used to only sing. therefore, *minimal* amount of fussing and setting gear up. EQ my mic and i'm ready to go...not so easy anymore with the keyboard added in, but not v. complicated either. and not nearly as heavy as the amps they've all got. therefore, must find other ways to build up those all-important biceps.

Originally posted by Leighm Anyone else feel that Steve should put away that toy drum kit hes been using and dust down his real kit for the new gigs. IMHO the Roland electronic kit just doesn't cut it live and tends to sound a bit too 'processed' especially (obviously) on the acoustic tracks like ceremony, love vigilantes atmosphere etc. I always felt some of the beauty of new order comes fron the meshing of electronic and acoustic percussion.

This is one of my favorite things about New Order