Behind Closed Doors

Just wondering! I rather enjoy this song a lot! Am I the only one, or are their others that like it? It reminds me musically in some parts of Spooky and Avalanche off of everyones hated album REPUBLIC!

Originally posted by Kimberly Raymond-Jensen Just wondering! I rather enjoy this song a lot! Am I the only one, or are their others that like it? It reminds me musically in some parts of Spooky and Avalanche off of everyones hated album REPUBLIC!

I like it too, Kimberley! I like the drum part especially but I wonder if it's real or synthesized. Marty, any thoughts on this, Mr. Drummer Boy? It has more emotion than some of the songs on GetReady. Though I hope that Barney isn't really saying "I check up on the scores and listen to the Corrs"!!

Don't like it at all I'm afraid (I have tried, honest). I particularly hate the scores / Corrs line. Makes my buttocks clench every time.

It's my favourite song of the Get Ready era, at least for the music. The drum part really sounds like early New Order. And I wouldn't compare it to Republic: it's much better.

i actually do like it quite a lot, but completely don't recall the dreaded scores/Corrs couplet. *shudders*

shall have to listen again. but indeed, you aren't the only one who likes it, Kim!

Yeah - it's pretty damn good. Really like the synth strings sound on that one - something there's not a lot of on the new stuff (other than TMW, PITL, HTS, that bit in 60mph - oh ok, maybe it has been used a bit then). And didn't Arthur Baker produce and play keyboards on that one? CTB

Originally posted by And You Will Know Me By The Hours I Don't Sleep I like it too, Kimberley! I like the drum part especially but I wonder if it's real or synthesized. Marty, any thoughts on this, Mr. Drummer Boy? It has more emotion than some of the songs on GetReady. Though I hope that Barney isn't really saying "I check up on the scores and listen to the Corrs"!!

Yeah - the drums on this track are actually played by Gillian - why else do you think they left this track off the album and put it out as a B-side instead??

Oh, and for the record, Barney should REALLY be singing.... "I check up on the scores.....then I trip out on The Corrs.....Hanging from closed doors" - your version must be a bootleg then. :D

Originally posted by Oh Shite! There Goes The Paranoid Android Again!! Yeah - the drums on this track are actually played by Gillian - why else do you think they left this track off the album and put it out as a B-side instead??

Really, honest and true? Where did you find this information...tears off Martin mask...MR. BAKER?

I was wondering about those drums. They sound like me, actually; either hat or snare, but never both at once, and tapped very softly. Plus, the whole kit sounds like it was recorded in mono with one mic: the cymbals are overly loud, the snare is tiny, and the kick sounds like crap.

I also like Hooky's "naked" bass at the beginning, which fits in well with the lyics...a great production decision if you ask me (and you didn't). Barney's vocal pitch really blows ('specially on the "will open up your eyyyy-ee-ahh-uh-iiizzeee" line), but I like the intimate lips-against-the-mic performance.

If only I was sure that the head on the door was the Corrs.

I defer to you two gentlemen(???) in terms of recording and production.
I like the off 4/4 time of the hi-hat(is that syncopated?) with the smells like teen spirit-esque snare pattern(is there a name for that?) I played drums for a couple years, but haven't played in four or five and don't even own a kit anymore. I know that syndrums have gotten better so wasn't sure if the drums were playable humanly, i just know they're way beyond me. And while we're on the subject, is it humanly possible to play Here To Stay(full length) and Vanishing point? I know Martin has talked about the integration of syndrums and real stuff, but if you were naked, with no electricity and just sticks, and a full kit, could ya do it?

To be honest, I haven't listened to it in months. my initial enthusiasm wore off with the release of Get Ready

Originally posted by And You Will Know Me By The Hours I Don't Sleep I defer to you two gentlemen(???) in terms of recording and production. I like the off 4/4 time of the hi-hat(is that syncopated?) with the smells like teen spirit-esque snare pattern(is there a name for that?) I played drums for a couple years, but haven't played in four or five and don't even own a kit anymore. I know that syndrums have gotten better so wasn't sure if the drums were playable humanly, i just know they're way beyond me. And while we're on the subject, is it humanly possible to play Here To Stay(full length) and Vanishing point? I know Martin has talked about the integration of syndrums and real stuff, but if you were naked, with no electricity and just sticks, and a full kit, could ya do it?

"Teen-Spirit" snare patterns????!!!!????!!!!!!

C'mon that pattern is a very very very common and oft-overused snare break - so common that - GASP! - I NEVER EVER PLAY IT!! I prefer more original snare hits! (adopts snobby demeanour like some fat elitist muso - har har har). Actually one of my previous rock bands (a younger community band of mostly teenagers whom I helped out on drums and occasional keyboards with) did a whole show of cover versions like "Teen Spirit" and that "WOO-HOO!" one by Bluurgh...and guess who had to do the Dave Grohl bits almost beat for beat? - Yup! MOI! Ha ha! What a laff that was! And I got my own back by speeding up so fast at the end the poor kids started looking very worried indeed (the bit where Kurt screams.. "Denial..") As for "Bong 2" - I insisted on playing THAT one so goddamn fast the whole song often caved in by the end! Sure beats the crap out of the originals at any rate! ;)

BTW, I HAVE done "Vanishing Point" - I am perfectly capable of playing all those drum/hi-hat/kick-drum bits in REAL TIME on a REAL ELECTRONIC KIT as preset with Roland TR 808 and 303 sounds. :D It's fooking brilliant. I know the whole drum track off by heart anyway.... God I'm so fucking smug tonite - someone's gotta shoot me soon.....

Originally posted by Gnu Odor If only I was sure that the head on the door was the Corrs.

BOOWAAA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAA!!!

"I must fight this sickness Find The Corrs I. must. FIGHT. THIS. SICKNESS!!!!....."

Someday a real rain will come and wipe the Corrs off the streets.

Now what's this smack about Gillian on drums?

Originally posted by And You Will Know Me By The Hours I Don't Sleep ...but if you were naked, with no electricity and just sticks, and a full kit, could ya do it?

I just wanted to quote that bit out of context.

Originally posted by Oh Shite! There Goes The Paranoid Android Again!! Actually one of my previous rock bands (a younger community band of mostly teenagers whom I helped out on drums and occasional keyboards with) did a whole show of cover versions like "Teen Spirit" and that "WOO-HOO!" one by Bluurgh...and guess who had to do the Dave Grohl bits almost beat for beat? - Yup! MOI! Ha ha! What a laff that was! And I got my own back by speeding up so fast at the end the poor kids started looking very worried indeed (the bit where Kurt screams.. "Denial..") As for "Bong 2" - I insisted on playing THAT one so goddamn fast the whole song often caved in by the end! Sure beats the crap out of the originals at any rate! ;)

*pauses to imagine*

you. are. so.

wish i could've heard that version (anything like that mix you did...?) do you think maybe it would've thrown them off more if you'd changed it to a polka mid-song, though...? which would also make it better than the original...

Originally posted by Gnu Odor > Originally posted by And You Will Know Me By The Hours I Don't Sleep> ...but if you were naked, with no electricity and just sticks, and a full kit, could ya do it?

I just wanted to quote that bit out of context.

Thank you. Very nice.

Originally posted by Gnu Odor Someday a real rain will come and wipe the Corrs off the streets.

right. here's what you do:

1.) hollow out their heads. 2.) shrink self down. 3.) climb in. 4.) do really messed up cover of "Cars." only (of course) change every instance of said word to "Corrs." ( ) 5.) lather. 6.) rinse. 7.) repeat.

"Teen-Spirit" snare patterns????!!!!????!!!!!!C'mon that pattern is a very very very common and oft-overused snare break - so common that - GASP! - I NEVER EVER PLAY IT!! I prefer more original snare hits! (adopts snobby demeanour like some fat elitist muso - har har har). Actually one of my previous rock bands (a younger community band of mostly teenagers whom I helped out on drums and occasional keyboards with) did a whole show of cover versions like "Teen Spirit" and that "WOO-HOO!" one by Bluurgh...and guess who had to do the Dave Grohl bits almost beat for beat? - Yup! MOI! Ha ha! What a laff that was! And I got my own back by speeding up so fast at the end the poor kids started looking very worried indeed (the bit where Kurt screams.. "Denial..") As for "Bong 2" - I insisted on playing THAT one so goddamn fast the whole song often caved in by the end! Sure beats the crap out of the originals at any rate! ;)BTW, I HAVE done "Vanishing Point" - I am perfectly capable of playing all those drum/hi-hat/kick-drum bits in REAL TIME on a REAL ELECTRONIC KIT as preset with Roland TR 808 and 303 sounds. :D It's fooking brilliant. I know the whole drum track off by heart anyway.... God I'm so fucking smug tonite - someone's gotta shoot me soon.....

Room 101 starts on its own volition!

BANISHED: Mr. Ritman's bloated, pretentious, condescending, self-indulgent, narcissistic diatribes towards sincere questions.:finger:

Seriously though, Marty, when are you going to let us here some of your music? Getting to know your musical tastes and general preferences here makes me curious about the music on which you would put your mark. That goes for Janaki, Brett, and anyone else who makes music and cares to share. I wish I had something good enough to share. I've only written one song with words. I wouldn't dare let Marty get a hold of it!

And I'm jealous that you can play vanishing point. I love the song and love the drums, especially the hi hat (who doesn't love a good hi-hat?). I guess I wish four things- a kit to play, a place to play it, the skill to play it well, and the time in which to play.

And per your suggestion. . .

but that is only if Janaki can't let me borrow a firearm or two and a thousand dollars or so to buy a ticket (and if I can find my goddamn passport) to do the job myself

Marty

Originally posted by Gnu Odor > Originally posted by And You Will Know Me By The Hours I Don't Sleep> ...but if you were naked, with no electricity and just sticks, and a full kit, could ya do it?

I just wanted to quote that bit out of context.

So I'm the straight man now? Glad I could be of service. Couldn't you have fixed the punctation while you were at it? I'm a little :o

Originally posted by Oh Shite! There Goes The Paranoid Android Again!! I prefer more original snare hits! (adopts snobby demeanour like some fat elitist muso - har har har).

I do this cool thing sometimes where I hit the snare on the "two" and the "four" of every measure. It's wicked.

Originally posted by janaki > Originally posted by Oh Shite! There Goes The Paranoid Android Again!!> Actually one of my previous rock bands (a younger community band of mostly teenagers whom I helped out on drums and occasional keyboards with) did a whole show of cover versions like "Teen Spirit" and that "WOO-HOO!" one by Bluurgh...and guess who had to do the Dave Grohl bits almost beat for beat? - Yup! MOI! Ha ha! What a laff that was! And I got my own back by speeding up so fast at the end the poor kids started looking very worried indeed (the bit where Kurt screams.. "Denial..") As for "Bong 2" - I insisted on playing THAT one so goddamn fast the whole song often caved in by the end! Sure beats the crap out of the originals at any rate! ;)

*pauses to imagine*

you. are. so.

wish i could've heard that version (anything like that mix you did...?) do you think maybe it would've thrown them off more if you'd changed it to a polka mid-song, though...? which would also make it better than the original...

Which mix are you talking about Janni? I'm curious!! :)

why, Bong 2, of course. :D

Originally posted by Gnu Odor > Originally posted by Oh Shite! There Goes The Paranoid Android Again!!> I prefer more original snare hits! (adopts snobby demeanour like some fat elitist muso - har har har).

I do this cool thing sometimes where I hit the snare on the "two" and the "four" of every measure. It's wicked.

To throw even more shit off-balance, I can do sixteenths with just ONE HAND!

(Only problem is, my cock gets awfully sore and swollen after it all and I find it very hard to walk for six hours.......) :D

Originally posted by janaki why, Bong 2, of course. :D

Actually THAT remix I did on that CD was actually inspired by the way I wanted that young band to play the song - dead slow on the verses and utterly apeshit breakneck on the chorus!!! The idea was sown over two years ago - so I just HAD to knock up THAT remix - just so I could hear how it sounded....and let's face it......it IS hilarious isn't it??

What did you think of what I did to "Accelerator" ?? :D

yes, it's quite hilarious. i wrote you about it too...did you get that e-mail..? :)

"Accelerator" sounds like its name with what you did to it. and a bit like a big plane taking off. :D

i think i've only heard the original version once, though...so i'm not as well-equipped for comparison.

Originally posted by Oh Shite! There Goes The Paranoid Android Again!! (Only problem is, my cock gets awfully sore and swollen after it all and I find it very hard to walk for six hours.......) :D

...er, prehensile utensil, anyone?

*whistles*

*backs away slowly*

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hhmm...when i first heard the song, i didn't like it much, but it has grown on me. most songs do.

Originally posted by janaki i think i've only heard the original version once, though...so i'm not as well-equipped for comparison.

You both suck elephant man cock for discussing something I haven't heard.

It ain't right, I tell ya.

Originally posted by Gnu Odor You both suck elephant man cock for discussing something I haven't heard.It ain't right, I tell ya.

define "elephant man cock."

there are several ways one could take this statement.

i'm curious how you actually meant it, is all.

Originally posted by janaki yes, it's quite hilarious. i wrote you about it too...did you get that e-mail..? :)"Accelerator" sounds like its name with what you did to it. and a bit like a big plane taking off. :Di think i've only heard the original version once, though...so i'm not as well-equipped for comparison.

Yeah Janni, I did get that email - was it this morning? I haven't got round to replying to it yet - but rest assured I will answer all your questions!! :) :)

As for the plane taking off noise (!!!) - that's actually a sample of Bobby Gillespie's voice being fed thru a colossal mega-echo device and EQ'd to absolute FUCK with plenty of bass and reverb and distortion..... though you probably wouldn't believe that if i told you! Here's a clue - just before that roaring noise comes fading in, you actually hear HIS voice echoing and fading away into the distance don't you? (singing "Accelerate-celerate-celerate-celerate-celerate.....") Well it's the same sample looped backwards twice over and only this time treated in a most unreal manner!! :D

I also thought Behind Close Doors was one of the best songs New Order have done for a long time. Does anyone know why it was included on the Japanese version of Get Ready as a bonus track? i.e why did the Japanese get 11 songs and the rest of the world only 10?

Originally posted by Oh Shite! There Goes The Paranoid Android Again!! As for the plane taking off noise (!!!) - that's actually a sample of Bobby Gillespie's voice being fed thru a colossal mega-echo device and EQ'd to absolute FUCK with plenty of bass and reverb and distortion..... though you probably wouldn't believe that if i told you! Here's a clue - just before that roaring noise comes fading in, you actually hear HIS voice echoing and fading away into the distance don't you? (singing "Accelerate-celerate-celerate-celerate-celerate.....") Well it's the same sample looped backwards twice over and only this time treated in a most unreal manner!! :D

...wow!

y'know, i should've guessed something like that. not because i actually did sit and think "wow, that's got to be his voice" or anything like that...but more because it's ALWAYS the case (or so it seems...i may be exaggerating just a teensy bit here ;) ) that it's vocal processing that always throws me off!

Curve instantly comes to mind, of course. (as we all knew they would...? :D ) and...damn. can't remember what song it is, but there's an MBV song too that does this to me. i keep thinking it's a human voice, and it's really a heavily processed guitar voice...

in conclusion, i never would've guessed Bobby could fit a whole plane in his mouth! :D

Originally posted by Mark Cunningham I also thought Behind Close Doors was one of the best songs New Order have done for a long time. Does anyone know why it was included on the Japanese version of Get Ready as a bonus track? i.e why did the Japanese get 11 songs and the rest of the world only 10?

What you're asking would require the mind of a record company executive to answer, and they are all criminally insane.

methinks you give them far too much credit, Gnu. for wouldn't being criminally insane make them at least a teensy bit interesting?

thought so. ;)

hrrm. where's a crossed-arm smiley when you need it? :D

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Originally posted by Mark Cunningham

I also thought Behind Close Doors was one of the best songs New Order have done for a long time. Does anyone know why it was included on the Japanese version of Get Ready as a bonus track? i.e why did the Japanese get 11 songs and the rest of the world only 10?

I read somewhere (maybe even on this site, dunno) that Japanese record companies often put bonus tracks on because otherwise Japanese folks are liable to buy import versions of the cd, probably because of relative currency strengths or because Japanese editions of Western cds come out later. Sounds plausible.

Am I the only person here who actually thought "Behind Closed Doors" was actually very very poor.? :D