Sirens anyone?

Big Black wrote: Fuckin ell Zach. 29 posts????

WFTSC gets a 7/10 for me.

I guess Zach REALLY digs that album eh?

A simple woulda done fine man!

Just had a listen again after a long time. Who's Joe is still the stand out track for me, and was pretty good live too.

Still prefer Get Ready though, despite all the hit and misses. The highs are higher for me.

Sir: :CHUNKS wrote:

Big Black wrote: Fuckin ell Zach. 29 posts????

WFTSC gets a 7/10 for me.

I guess Zach REALLY digs that album eh?

A simple woulda done fine man!

Oh man I am sorry about all of those posts. My computer was acting all fucked up and it didnt appear that my reply was posting. I am very sorry about that.

I do love WFTSC though.....

Also...

I think New Order must like WFTSC. They have played more tracks off of it in concert than any other album except for Technique.

They played 8 songs from WFTSC.

6 from Get Ready/

5 from Republic

8 from Technique

Uhh....I forget for the earlier albums.

anyways...

I LOVE JETSTREAM AND GIAUE!!

Oh man I am sorry about all of those posts. My computer was acting all fucked up and it didnt appear that my reply was posting. I am very sorry about that.

I do love WFTSC though.....

Also...

I think New Order must like WFTSC. They have played more tracks off of it in concert than any other album except for Technique.

They played 8 songs from WFTSC.

6 from Get Ready/

5 from Republic

8 from Technique

Uhh....I forget for the earlier albums.

anyways...

I LOVE JETSTREAM AND GIAUE!!

Zachery Starkey wrote: Jetstream

This is my favorite song on the whole album. Jetstream is a classic New Order Electro Pop dance song. I love how cathchy and uplifting the song is, and I love all of the little electronic melodies. Its also got some lovely Hooky basslines.

I don't like Jetstream at all; it's too poppy and doesn't sound New Order to me. It lacks an alternative touch which is the reason I like the band. I can imagine any pop singer sing this very mainstream sounding song.

As a whole, I'd rate this album about equal to Republic. My least liked album is Get Ready BTW.

Canuck21 wrote: As a whole, I'd rate this album about equal to Republic. My least liked album is Get Ready BTW.

WOW. I feel exactly the opposite. I love Get Ready & WFTSC as I think they are both in equal standing as the "Classic" NO sound.

Republic however comma to this day makes me cringe. So much so that I rarely...if ever...play it in public. It just does NOT sound like ANY NO before or after (Thank god actually).

It's a shame really because so many of those songs had potential, but instead we got a throw away Electronic album. And not even a good one at that.

Dear New Order, I owe a great deal to your music, especially Low Life. It could be said that Low Life gave me strength to live at a difficult time. I bought waiting For the Sirens Call and tried hard to groove on it but couldn't. Seems the band lost it's edge. Please don't go down the path of the Rolling Stones. I think you could do better than Sirens Call. That is just my opinion.

                             Sincerely,
                                  jon murphy:shrug:

Big Black wrote: Fuckin ell Zach. 29 posts????

WFTSC gets a 7/10 for me.

Guess he digs repetition... That said, don't think I could manage 29 posts praising Sirens'...

Snorri xxx

A couple of weeks back I played Sirens about three times per day. It always is a good idea to rediscover a New Order album after a while. It could have done with a couple of songs less, but it is a cracking album. I rated it better than Get Ready. To me GR has too many songs that just seem unfinished.

ally wrote:

As for WFTSC, I recently picked up the gatefold vinyl the other week for the ol' collection.

I found a copy of that in HMV Melbourne.

Got it all the way home and realised I'd already got it

Only difference is it's a UK copy with an import sticker on it.

i think my cd is under one of the seats in the car.

I think

who cares. its shit.

Zachery Starkey wrote: I love WFTSC. Its actually my second favorite New Order album, right behind Republic.

I like WFTSC because its a brilliant hybrid of the moody guitar sound New Order did on Get Ready combined with the catchy electonic melodies of Technique.

The album has some great songs on it.

My favorites

Who's Joe

I LOVE this song. Brilliant way to start the album. I love the atmospheric beginning, it sounds like an orchestra tunring up and going into the overture. Great atmospheric song and Barneys voice is lovely on it.

Waiting for the Sirens Call

Beautiful song with really good lyrics (for Barney, that is).

Krafty

This song is only OK. I think it was a weak first single and even though its catchy, it didnt blow me away. The awesome synth break that comes after the first chorus...its epic and should have been used more.

I Told You So

Awesome song. Its got lots of great rythms, melodies, and a lot of cool electronic stuff going on. Daft lyrics, but I love the songs melodies and atmospheres. This song is kind of sensual, in a way.

Morning Night and Day

Fucking awesome song! Great programmed bass line, great Hooky bassline, and catchy as Hell.

Jetstream

This is my favorite song on the whole album. Jetstream is a classic New Order Electro Pop dance song. I love how cathchy and uplifting the song is, and I love all of the little electronic melodies. Its also got some lovely Hooky basslines.

I think its a brilliant song, and had it been the first single, it would have done really well in America. I play JET all the time when I DJ at a nightclub, and the whole crowd loves JET everytime I play it. its a floor filler.

Guilt Is a Useless Emotion

This is a brilliant unshackled dance song. I love the songs meoldy, atmospherics, beats, and catchy Chorus. Yes, the lyrics are stupid. But this is a great dance song and it should bave been the first or second single from the album.

Turn

Beautiful song. :) What else is there to say?

I would love to see New Order work with an electronic producer for thier next album. Id love to hear them do an album with Arthur Baker. His remix of JET was awesome.

SORRY but can you repeat this so i can get a jist of your feelings for the RECORD.Myself i quite like the album but certain tracks are rather lame.SHOCKED as you are one of the few NOOL's that ALSO enjoy JET.Rather CATCHY...... KEEP ON POSTING ZAcHerY

ROCKET MICK wrote:

Zachery Starkey wrote: I love WFTSC. Its actually my second favorite New Order album, right behind Republic.

I like WFTSC because its a brilliant hybrid of the moody guitar sound New Order did on Get Ready combined with the catchy electonic melodies of Technique.

The album has some great songs on it.

My favorites

Who's Joe

I LOVE this song. Brilliant way to start the album. I love the atmospheric beginning, it sounds like an orchestra tunring up and going into the overture. Great atmospheric song and Barneys voice is lovely on it.

Waiting for the Sirens Call

Beautiful song with really good lyrics (for Barney, that is).

Krafty

This song is only OK. I think it was a weak first single and even though its catchy, it didnt blow me away. The awesome synth break that comes after the first chorus...its epic and should have been used more.

I Told You So

Awesome song. Its got lots of great rythms, melodies, and a lot of cool electronic stuff going on. Daft lyrics, but I love the songs melodies and atmospheres. This song is kind of sensual, in a way.

Morning Night and Day

Fucking awesome song! Great programmed bass line, great Hooky bassline, and catchy as Hell.

Jetstream

This is my favorite song on the whole album. Jetstream is a classic New Order Electro Pop dance song. I love how cathchy and uplifting the song is, and I love all of the little electronic melodies. Its also got some lovely Hooky basslines.

I think its a brilliant song, and had it been the first single, it would have done really well in America. I play JET all the time when I DJ at a nightclub, and the whole crowd loves JET everytime I play it. its a floor filler.

Guilt Is a Useless Emotion

This is a brilliant unshackled dance song. I love the songs meoldy, atmospherics, beats, and catchy Chorus. Yes, the lyrics are stupid. But this is a great dance song and it should bave been the first or second single from the album.

Turn

Beautiful song. :) What else is there to say?

I would love to see New Order work with an electronic producer for thier next album. Id love to hear them do an album with Arthur Baker. His remix of JET was awesome.

SORRY but can you repeat this so i can get a jist of your feelings for the RECORD.Myself i quite like the album but certain tracks are rather lame.SHOCKED as you are one of the few NOOL's that ALSO enjoy JET.Rather CATCHY...... KEEP ON POSTING ZAcHerY

Well said. I too am a Jetstream fan. I can do without the remixes (Except Art Baker's) and I think that Barney looks too much like William Shatner of late in the viddy but that won't stop me from diggin the tunage.

Peace!

I absolutely love WFTSC. It was my fave album of 2005 and I played the CD for months after it was released. Trying my best to not sound like a pious NME journalist they captured their classic electro/dance/indie/rock sound overall with WFTSC but did it with new ideas which made it an interesting addition to what they'd done before - not a copy of it. For me the highlights of WFTSC are

Who's Joe, WFTSC & Turn - Three great tracks which captures their indie rock style perfectly. They're a little reminiscent of Run and Regret but in a softer style with a wonderful synth led intro on Who's Joe and Hooky's basslines on all the tracks A+

Krafty - A fairly good track which ticks all the NO boxes in the terms of their dance meets indie rock style and the synth riff is one of NO's best!

Told You So - A lot of people hate this track but IMO it's a reasonably good slow tempo electro rock tune. However it could have been executed slightly better and the reggae style 'A'right' samples are a little naff.

Morning Night And Day - Classic NO and everything works well in this tune guitars, bass, synths etc. This should have been a single and when I first played WFTSC this one raised my enjoyment of the album from a good one to a great one.

[orange]Dracula's Castle[/orange] - Okay a s***e title but IMO a reasonable enough track which has some excellent synth/drum riffs - a little reminiscent of Kraftwerk circa Home Computer.

Guilt Is A Useless Emotion - As good as NO's excursions into Dance music get. A better showcase for Stuart Price's talent and a better choice for a single than Jetstream IMO.

Jetstream is okay but doesn't really push my buttons to make me think of it as a NO classic and Working Overtime isn't bad but seems more suited to Get Ready than WFTSC. Still a very good effort overall! Cheers!

APK, APK

Zachery Starkey wrote:

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You're taking the piss now

Leggy D wrote:

Zachery Starkey wrote:

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You're taking the piss now

I love WFTSC.... I STILL play it on a regular basis. In fact I've listened to it so much I'm starting to get sick of it.

Definately one of their best albums.

...and Republic is MEDIOCRE - or the stretch from Young Offender to Times Change anyway - easily NO's worst moment in 30 years.

I just listened to some of Sirens for the first time in months (no New Order at all for weeks now) and some of it I really love.

Who's Joe, title track, Krafty (less so now than when it came out), Morning Night and Day (well, the chorus mainly), and Turn sound so good, and I quite like Road to Ruin and the Mac Quayle version of Guilt.

In fact I think I feel the same about this album as I do about Get Ready: some gems on there, some good tracks, with a noticeable dip in quality in the middle. Still, not a bad album at all, and no one can really complain about it imo.

Fuck the ones they put out, give us the seven missing ones NOW!!!

Steve One wrote: Fuck the ones they put out, give us the seven missing ones NOW!!!

Amen to that, brother!

ROCKET MICK wrote:

Leggy D wrote:

Zachery Starkey wrote:

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Also!!!

You're taking the piss now

I love the song Waiting For The Sirens Call I had tears to that song I also love the song Krafty best songs Who can not like the songs I give it thumbs up.

Missy

Couple of months since I last had a wallow with the Sirens... I usually hammer it for a week or two then come back a few months later. Has worn well- A fine vintage!

Zachery needs to quit wanking on the Submit button... 29 posts... ? That's a bit much even for NOOL.

Back on topic: Sirens is a good album -- I don't see a theme in the album, but I like it nonetheless. It's better than most of the crap that comes out of music production houses anyway...

I hope New Order keeps recording.

I hope NO comes out with an album that has some BALLS to it....Sirens is weak, overproduced, souless, and boring. I have faith that the musicians that once played on an album known as Closer, or created the masterpiece Low Life can put out a better record than the bogussness called Sirens. Jetstream???give me a break..

Sirens is boss, what do you expect from a bunch of men approaching 50 years old? You heard Pink Floyd or the Rolling Stones' efforts at 48/49/50? Fucking shite mostly! I think a lot of people expect New Order to reinvent the wheel but it ain't gonna happen, the albums are great and if they come up with something like Crystal, Primitive Notion or WFTSC, all of which have blown me away and have been the best songs of their respective years by a mile, then I'm happy.

Rock The Shack, I Told You So, Jetstream, Guilt Is A Useless Emotion, Working Overtime...great songs, just kick back and enjoy, I can recommend that anyone who questions the greatness of I Told You So should put that song on a very loud sound system, preferably a club sound system, and then judge, if you think it's poor now then you'll change your mind sharpish

New Order are better than Floyd, the stones, and I expect better.

you got a point, we can't expect the world from them, it's just that with the sorry state (IMO) of music I look towards New Order to provide a superior product than all the rest.