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is it possible that get ready isnt selling well because as john lydon said "were fat 40 and back"

IF new order changed there name did no photo shoots and completly made themselves up as a new young act would it be possible that get ready would be at number one for like a very long time and hailed as the best debut album of the century???

why ask such a question? i believe that it would be hailed as the best debut album if it was not a new order release yes its sad but this is how the industry works these days.

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Er, indeed, it might've made a very good debut album, had the 4 main protagonists NOT had nigh on 100 years musical experience behind 'em. As it is, it's simply a good New order album.

If I was born a year ago, I would be the tallest 1 year old in living history, but sadly I was actually born 34 years so have a headstart on other toddlers. Such is life.

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Originally posted by Ian Pillar is it possible that get ready isnt selling well becauseas john lydon said "were fat 40 and back"IF new order changed there name did no photo shootsand completly made themselves up as a new young actwould it be possible that get ready would be at number one for like a very long time and hailed as the best debut album of the century???why ask such a question?i believe that it would be hailed as the best debut albumif it was not a new order releaseyes its sad but this is how the industry works these days.

In the U.S. at least right now, if you're not 25 and photogenic, you're not going to be played either on the radio or on MTV.

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Originally posted by Patrick > Originally posted by Ian Pillar> is it possible that get ready isnt selling well because> as john lydon said "were fat 40 and back"> > IF new order changed there name did no photo shoots> and completly made themselves up as a new young act> would it be possible that get ready would be at number one for like a very long time and hailed as the best debut album of the century???> > why ask such a question?> i believe that it would be hailed as the best debut album> if it was not a new order release> yes its sad but this is how the industry works these days.

In the U.S. at least right now, if you're not 25 and photogenic, you're not going to be played either on the radio or on MTV.

well, in that case you'd think Aerosmith were screwed, but.....

It is a crying shame Get Ready is basically ignored while lesser "artists" are getting the high profile. Perhaps if Barney dated Britney (again, they could get matching monogrammed towels)....

If I were their publicist, here's what I'd do:

  1. The aforementioned Barney/Britney match (and subsequent split...you know, so Barn can pore his heart out over their relationship to Barbra Walters)

  2. Hooky hires an "intern" then pays her a million dollars to "disappear" so media attention is focused on his every move

  3. Fake a White House stay for Steve and Gillian, saying that it cost the taxpayers $30 billion just for GW and Laura to have them over for "wife-swapping" (none of this actually occurs, of course, but you can't buy publicity like this)

  4. Have a hig-profile appearance on Letterman or Leno in which the band refuses to play until all the brown M&M's are removed from their dressing room

  5. Barney comes out as a homosexual to Rolling Stone, a bisexual to Spin, and asexual to Field and Stream

  6. Another botched performance, this time at TRL, where Hooky cracks under the pressure of "Intern-gate", Barney hurls verbal abuse to the audience, and Steve catches Fred Durst making out with Gillian (all on camera, of course)

  7. At this point, I'm probably fired, so now I can't direct their career moves. I go to jail for fraud and become the bitch to Big Eddie on cell block C

That's what I'd do...

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fucking hell Trevor....

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

pure madness...I love it...

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Speaking of pure madness, Pariah Carey just landed a new record deal in which she gets her very own record label to play with, along with a few million bucks to boot. Not bad for a woman who was allegedly slashing her wrists a few months back.

I'm still wondering if the Order's been dropped from London; meanwhile, Carey gets paid $28 million to allow herself to be dropped.

Maybe Pariah (in a Quincy Jones-like move) will sign New Order to her new label and bring them stateside.

Some gory details from The Wall Street Journal:

DISPOSSESSED POP DIVA Mariah Carey's life has been a soap opera in recent months, climaxing when EMI Group PLC paid her $28 million to go away. Now, Ms. Carey has signed a deal with Universal Music Group that the company says makes for a "romantic" comeback story that will generate massive attention and even bigger record sales. Ms. Carey and Universal Music, a unit of Vivendi Universal SA, will create a joint-venture media company and music label. Terms of the deal weren't disclosed, but people with knowledge of the matter say that Universal will help fund the company with about $20 million. Ms. Carey is expected to use that fund to produce three albums over the next five years, with an option for a fourth, as well as any other projects she might decide to take on. Ms. Carey will receive $5 million to $8 million up front for her first year as Universal's contribution to recording and promotional costs for her next album.The Universal deal does allow Ms. Carey creative control on a wider range of projects than she has had in the past. As part of the agreement, Ms. Carey will have her own record label, distributed through Island Records, a unit of Universal's Island/Def Jam Music Group, through which she will release her own material and develop new musical talent. "We think she's as fresh as a daisy," says Doug Morris, chairman and chief executive of Universal Music Group, who adds that he expects Ms. Carey to pursue projects in conjunction with Universal's other entertainment divisions. "The speed bump she hit sets her up for one of the great stories of all time . . . a romantic story, the comeback of Mariah," he adds.

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all I can say is

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and

:nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono:

this is pure :evil: :evil2: :evil3: :evil4:

someone must pay...:violent::violent2::headoff::finger::\puke::timetokill:

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And now I've just heard the new Moby single for the second time today. :\puke:

No offense, Mobe, but you could tune yer f***ing guitar next time before you hit Record?

Yeah, "Play" was a big hit, so now whatever this guy does will get the huge marketing push no matter how many sweaty Elvis impersonators it sucks. Hell yes I'm cranky today.

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'swhat you get for making the fatal mistake of turning on your radio, Gnu. :nono: ;)

virtually the same conversation was held this morning between myself and my coconspirator. were listening to Channel X again (satellite radio, bwee) and of course Moby came up (though not the song to which you refer). which led him to comment on how overplayed it is. and me to comment on how there are a zillion worse things than Moby cluttering the airwaves right now, but that yes, he is just a teensy bit overexposed.

but i've found the secret phrase which makes everything all better! wanna know what it is...?

now. :nod: repeat after me:

"at least it didn't involve Gwen Stefani in any way." :nonono:

see? don't you feel better? :violent2:

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Well, I was happy to hear New Order on the radio (the Internet, actually, as I found I can stream London's Xfm) today.

Here to Stay was smushed in between tracks from Black Rebel Motorcycle Club and P.O.D., and it held up very well, thank you very much. Our fat old boys have still got it.

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:skeptic: well, i do suppose there is that. i'd be happy to hear them on the radio, too...after all, i had a really sad (if you think about it) moment of happy inward poinging upon hearing "Regret" whilst perusing cheap lovely kitchen utensils at Ikea a few months back... :D

if i could do such a thing on my work computer, i might just do that...the streaming radio bit, that is. sadly, am unable to...so i just load up on CDs and listen to those all day.

now playing: "Detour." Bis (featuring Lois Maffeo).

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At the moment I'm really enjoying the new Eminem single (flame away if you must), and not just because he slags Moby.

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the real and burning question that everyone wants to know is, how do you feel about the Pet Shop Boys/Eminem duet. in twenty words or less, please. :computer:

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speaking of eminem...I'm not a huge fan of his...but I did really enjoy that little thing he did with D12...the thing about blue and yellow purple pills....

and yes...I'm expecting some comments about this as well...

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New Order in Pittsburgh I guess are not that popular. Oh how I wish they were. But, m and m is popular but he leaves a lot to be desired. / ==

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I - haven't - heard - it. (That leaves 16 words.)

Dear neworderonline.com:Spiritualized played here Saturday and I missed it.Should I be sad? - Gnu

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...Spiritualized and BRMC, right?

my friend Kim (not Frootikim) went to see them both when they were in Chicago a couple weeks ago. she LOOOOOOVED BRMC, but walked out during Spiritualized.

...then again, she's also not a big Spiritualized fan, either. so. that could be part of it. ;)

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New Order = Sad (and yup, not very popular)

Moby = Bald (and a leeching bastard)

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:laugh:

Originally posted by Taboo # 7 > Originally posted by Patrick> > > > Originally posted by Ian Pillar> > is it possible that get ready isnt selling well because> > as john lydon said "were fat 40 and back"> > > > IF new order changed there name did no photo shoots> > and completly made themselves up as a new young act> > would it be possible that get ready would be at number one for like a very long time and hailed as the best debut album of the century???> > > > why ask such a question?> > i believe that it would be hailed as the best debut album> > if it was not a new order release> > yes its sad but this is how the industry works these days.>

In the U.S. at least right now, if you're not 25 and photogenic, you're not going to be played either on the radio or on MTV.

well, in that case you'd think Aerosmith were screwed, but.....

It is a crying shame Get Ready is basically ignored while lesser "artists" are getting the high profile. Perhaps if Barney dated Britney (again, they could get matching monogrammed towels)....

If I were their publicist, here's what I'd do:

  1. The aforementioned Barney/Britney match (and subsequent split...you know, so Barn can pore his heart out over their relationship to Barbra Walters)

  2. Hooky hires an "intern" then pays her a million dollars to "disappear" so media attention is focused on his every move

  3. Fake a White House stay for Steve and Gillian, saying that it cost the taxpayers $30 billion just for GW and Laura to have them over for "wife-swapping" (none of this actually occurs, of course, but you can't buy publicity like this)

  4. Have a hig-profile appearance on Letterman or Leno in which the band refuses to play until all the brown M&M's are removed from their dressing room

  5. Barney comes out as a homosexual to Rolling Stone, a bisexual to Spin, and asexual to Field and Stream

  6. Another botched performance, this time at TRL, where Hooky cracks under the pressure of "Intern-gate", Barney hurls verbal abuse to the audience, and Steve catches Fred Durst making out with Gillian (all on camera, of course)

  7. At this point, I'm probably fired, so now I can't direct their career moves. I go to jail for fraud and become the bitch to Big Eddie on cell block C

That's what I'd do...

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Originally posted by Ian Pillar is it possible that get ready isnt selling well becauseas john lydon said "were fat 40 and back"IF new order changed there name did no photo shootsand completly made themselves up as a new young actwould it be possible that get ready would be at number one for like a very long time and hailed as the best debut album of the century???why ask such a question?i believe that it would be hailed as the best debut albumif it was not a new order releaseyes its sad but this is how the industry works these days.

a milli vinilli conspiracy here? yes, hire those guys from the crystal video for a permanent position and watch them turn green once a programmer or two breaks down...or when the tape gets eaten up...which ever comes first. nah, that would never work, unless all existing new order fans disappeared off the face of the earth...cuz we all know the truth...

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