A song that could be Bernard's Autobiography?

Close Range? Or is that about Ian?

I feel like Regret must be pretty autobiographical. Most of the lyrics on Technique, when they're not tongue in cheek, seem more personal, or rather, more precise about personal stuff, than on previous records.

JV wrote: I feel like Regret must be pretty autobiographical. Most of the lyrics on Technique, when they're not tongue in cheek, seem more personal, or rather, more precise about personal stuff, than on previous records.

I agree about Technique. I think I read somewhere that Love Less had somethnig to do with his divorce, though some of the other songs seem to be tinged by that as well.

Would Barney ever endorse one? It would be a fascinating read. So would Hookys, Gillians, Steves or Phils (to a lesser degree).

I love the way they can never agree on historic events that involved the band. Its like a mate of mine who manipulates the events of piss ups, etc to show him in a better light. Or distorts the truth to put it another way.

Regret would be quite a good title although Im not sure Barney regrets much, he lived to the max. Second Nature might be suitable for a title.

NO Regret wrote: Would Barney ever endorse one? It would be a fascinating read. So would Hookys, Gillians, Steves or Phils (to a lesser degree).

I love the way they can never agree on historic events that involved the band. Its like a mate of mine who manipulates the events of piss ups, etc to show him in a better light. Or distorts the truth to put it another way.

Regret would be quite a good title although Im not sure Barney regrets much, he lived to the max. Second Nature might be suitable for a title.

Hmmm, looks like you've had a blonde moment here, on several fronts!

The thread was asking whether Close Range could be interpreted as being written by Bernard about Bernard, i.e. autobiographical. Not a suggestion for a book title!

You don't authorise autobiographies, you write them!

oldmonkey wrote:

NO Regret wrote: Would Barney ever endorse one? It would be a fascinating read. So would Hookys, Gillians, Steves or Phils (to a lesser degree).

I love the way they can never agree on historic events that involved the band. Its like a mate of mine who manipulates the events of piss ups, etc to show him in a better light. Or distorts the truth to put it another way.

Regret would be quite a good title although Im not sure Barney regrets much, he lived to the max. Second Nature might be suitable for a title.

Hmmm, looks like you've had a blonde moment here, on several fronts!

The thread was asking whether Close Range could be interpreted as being written by Bernard about Bernard, i.e. autobiographical. Not a suggestion for a book title!

You don't authorise autobiographies, you write them!

Oops.Sorry I failed to make the connection. Isnt Close Range about a footballer (see also Player In The League and Like No Other) who needs to mend his ways? Close Range referencing a football term and "playing in the park" and "by 4 o'clock you were pretty hot" also football relating.

I always thought Barney hung out with one or two footballers or maybe just bumped into them at clubs (maybe Lee Sharpe or Gazza?). Whoever, theyve provided some lyrical inspiration.

I didnt mention AUTHORISE, I said "endorse" (as in official autobiography as oppose to unofficial).

NO Regret wrote:

oldmonkey wrote:

NO Regret wrote: Would Barney ever endorse one? It would be a fascinating read. So would Hookys, Gillians, Steves or Phils (to a lesser degree).

I love the way they can never agree on historic events that involved the band. Its like a mate of mine who manipulates the events of piss ups, etc to show him in a better light. Or distorts the truth to put it another way.

Regret would be quite a good title although Im not sure Barney regrets much, he lived to the max. Second Nature might be suitable for a title.

Hmmm, looks like you've had a blonde moment here, on several fronts!

The thread was asking whether Close Range could be interpreted as being written by Bernard about Bernard, i.e. autobiographical. Not a suggestion for a book title!

You don't authorise autobiographies, you write them!

Oops.Sorry I failed to make the connection. Isnt Close Range about a footballer (see also Player In The League and Like No Other) who needs to mend his ways? Close Range referencing a football term and "playing in the park" and "by 4 o'clock you were pretty hot" also football relating.

I always thought Barney hung out with one or two footballers or maybe just bumped into them at clubs (maybe Lee Sharpe or Gazza?). Whoever, theyve provided some lyrical inspiration.

I didnt mention AUTHORISE, I said "endorse" (as in official autobiography as oppose to unofficial).

Autobiography not Biography

Though if anyone were to ever write an unofficial autobiography I guess it could be Bernard...he could write it then forget he wrote it! only for someone to uncover the manuscript and then publish it

Yees, rather difficult to wrote an unofficial autobiography really! Unless you are schizophrenic I suppose.

It's 'By 4o'clock / You were pretty HIGH', not hot.

FtotheDoubleOff wrote: It's 'By 4o'clock / You were pretty HIGH', not hot.

Either way, it's about drugs and screwing.

Shellshocker wrote:

JV wrote: I feel like Regret must be pretty autobiographical. Most of the lyrics on Technique, when they're not tongue in cheek, seem more personal, or rather, more precise about personal stuff, than on previous records.

I agree about Technique. I think I read somewhere that Love Less had somethnig to do with his divorce, though some of the other songs seem to be tinged by that as well.

Yeah, tis the longstanding supposition.

Waiting for the Sirens Call.

About him reaching middle age.

Tony Wilson said that Technique was Bernard's Blood on the Tracks.

Got both records on heavy rotation at the moment

oldmonkey wrote: Yees, rather difficult to wrote an unofficial autobiography really! Unless you are schizophrenic I suppose.

Point taken. I hold my hands up on that school boy error.

autobiography I guess it could be Bernard...he could write it then forget he wrote it!

Maybe that is not so hard to happen

Did I not read that Bernard's memories were sometimes altered by side-effects of several drugs, did I ?

Anyway, this book should be interesting...

oldmonkey wrote: Close Range? Or is that about Ian?

Inspired by:

http://www.neworderonline.com/Forums/MessageList.aspx?ThreadID=36675&PageIndex=2

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Careful... in order to avoid your bug bear of repetition you may have to start deleting your own threads...!

Twat. Read what this thread was about. I asked the question, albeit obtusely, of whether the lyrics of Close Range could be construed as being autobiographical.

So you come back and say that my thread is a copy of your one where you asked us whose autobiography we would be interested in reading?

Sorry, but I fail to see the connection.

As for deleting threads where several people have posted a thread on precisely the same topic, that has always been the case and has always been practised by every moderator. If you don't like it, may I respectfully suggest you try somewhere like Barney's Angels, Hooky's Angels, Missy's Missteries or suchlike instead.

oldmonkey wrote: Twat.

Your the twat- deleting threads for no reason FFS!

ally wrote:

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oldmonkey wrote: Twat.

Your the twat- deleting threads for no reason FFS!

Sloppy Engerlish, Craig.

You're the twat.

Correct. In more ways than one!

ally wrote:

wrote:

oldmonkey wrote: Twat.

Your the twat- deleting threads for no reason FFS!

Sloppy Engerlish, Craig.

You're the twat.

And you're supposed to be a moderator, not a nob!

Uncle Liam wrote:

ally wrote:

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oldmonkey wrote: Twat.

Your the twat- deleting threads for no reason FFS!

Sloppy Engerlish, Craig.

You're the twat.

Correct. In more ways than one!

Ah... How I relish the thought that one day your fingers will be too chubby to hit single keys...

oldmonkey wrote: Close Range? Or is that about Ian?

As part of an overwhelming act of maturity I'll say:

REGRET!

Most of the songs on 'Technique' seem pretty personal.

how many footballers autobiographies were written by the players themselves?

i would say it is actually possible for an unauthorised autobiography to be realeased these days

i wouldn't know...but i'd take a guess....bizarre love triangle...

given hi s alleged memory problems ,,,"everythings gone green."

i wonder where i am.

SECOND NATURE AND AS IT IS WHEN IT WAS.

NO Regret wrote: SECOND NATURE AND AS IT IS WHEN IT WAS.

Good call on As It Is When It Was--has some of my fave lyrics from Bernard.

I would also vouch for Getting Away With It, despite its tongue in cheek quality.