Movement

Xoq wrote: greatest album of all time

Agreed. And awesome avatar by the way. heh ;)

One of my more favourite albums.Love Hannett's production on ICB and SENSES. Must admit when I first heard John Peel showcasing a few songs off it,it wasn't my cup of tea.Got round to buying it on Factory cassette in the white library-style case,and still it must have got played about 3 times ever. How times change! Play it all the time now.

EdelBrock wrote: Definately a mood album....butwhen I'm in the mood, lights off and 14 year Glenlivet on the rocks in hand..

14 year WHO? on your WHAT?

Surely that's illegal

Actually, at the mo' i'd be partial to a drop of Black Bush (generally ordered as "i'll have a Shirley Bassey", in Dublin) meself; but tiple of choice would normally be a Hennessy Brandy.

Movement? I like it

jamie fairlie wrote:

ally wrote: So what you're saying is, everything post-Confusion was "just another band" and none of those post-83 records ever had anything special about them? Sounds completely far-fetched to me but perhaps this is another of those "you had to be there in '81" scenarios.

...they'd been through a massive trauma losing Ian and it was only natural they'd try and continue with that vocal style and those Closer-like keyboard washes but it couldn't seriously have continued, could it?

As I said, they did some great songs later on but they just didn't carry the same weight. Ask anyone who saw JD live and they all talk about how mesmerised they were, how they couldn't take their eyes away from the band. I personally think early NO still had that aura about them, warching them live in those days was a totally absorbing experience, the intensity of the performance was something truly special and I've never had that sensation with any other band. Seeing NO from 83 on was still great fun but it was entirely different, almost like a separate band.

As to where they could have gone next, well there's an infinite number of directions they could have taken or they could have continued to experiment and keep changing direction - Wire, their peers, have successfully done this throughout their career. I think they became quite lazy after BM and started to write to a succesful formula and stopped taking risks. Great for mainstream success, not so great for art.

I personally love what New Order became from 83 on....Sure, the performances probably weren't as mesmorizing, but I don't think they were meant to be. When they decided to stop being Joy Division II and do the exact opposite (silly lyrics, happy sounding synths, a minimalistic as opposed to overbearing sense of gloom), that's when they became legendary in their own right and actually surpassed Joy Division in terms of overall greatness.

If Joy Division was Heroin, New Order was Prozac. JD is best for reflective nights right before you fall asleep. New Order is best anytime.

J

When I first got into NO, I always treated Movement as the real stuff, while Technique, Republic were way too poppy and sounded like the Pet Shop Boys.

Movement was perfect for me as Joy Division fan and I never understood why critics and so many people detested the album and its production (I loved all those subtle effects Hannett put into it). To me it was a good follow-up to Closer.

Well I like "Movement" very much, too. It's nice and dark and like someone said before, a (perfect) transition from JD to NO. Do you know the ancient Peel Sessions from this time? They are ace, too.

patrick stewart appreciation society wrote: I bought this album about 8 yrs ago, maybe more, anyway only listneed to it once before, i've always lookd at the cover and just thought nah.

Recently i've been putting all my cds onto my computer so i've been listening to a few to remind me why i bought 'em and movement was a a pleasent suprise not at all as shit as i'd always held it in my head

Just thought i'd share this pointlessness with y'all

i've bought this album, well... 26 years ago .It has been a fabulous thing for me. New sound, new kind of rock music. A distinctive approach and a ressurection when we all were wondering how the band could carry on after Ian'death?I used to play DNE almost every day on my "chaine stéréo".For me it was a new wave symbol. Very interesting. The way Barney played guitar was a bright approach. I know the band often said they didn't like Martin Hannett production but it wasn't obvious for me . THis album was a great inspiration for me and it showed me a way to develop myself in my own band. It's still a 'reference'