On stage bantering

NEW ORDER

Paradise Garage, New York 7th July 1983

"I want all of you singing along for this one, all you Funhouse bastards." "Sorry to keep you waiting, we're just waiting for the sequencer to load up. We're not sorry really, we don't give a shit really. I don't, anyway." "Probably all Joy Division fans? Sussed you out, eh?" "Seldom...seldom have I ever met an audience more lethargic that we are..." "How does it it feel, to be stuck in front of a bunch of cunts like you..." (during Blue Monday) "I've never seen such a cunt like you before" (during Temptation) "we love you anyway!" (a punter shouts)

New Order 1984-08-16 City Hall Hull

"Our next song is a fast one, cuz we know that most of our audience are meatheads. So is Steve"

New Order 1985/12-13 Salle Du Baron, Orleans, France

Classic Hooky-ism before "The Perfect Kiss": PH: "Love the sounds of your own voices don't you, you boring bastards."

Classic intro to "This Time Of Night": BS: "Hi, everyone. Bonjour. A la nuit. This one is called, eh, Donset Time A La Neux(?). "Fromage a Potage. Fucky fucky. Fucky fucky."

Classic lyric change in "TTON", at 1:13 (in this re-tracksplit version): BS (singing): "The bass sequencer I cannot hear / If you turn it up, my ears will feel much better, Eddie / "I can hear the bass sequencer / Turn it up, you..." while Hooky fills in the correct backing vox.

thats what happens when im bored, any good barney moments you'd like to tack on?

"I hat it when someone passess me a micropone with vaseline on it, you don't know where its been....."

since all the members are publishing books, well...mainly hooky why don't they just take infamous barney quotes, and make "the world of touring, the stage life of bernard sumner"

some more gems from barney

New Order playing Temptation live at the Hultsfred Festival in Hultsfred, Sweden on June 15th, 2002

"my names berrrrrrrrrrrnerrrrrd"

"you speak english very well, did you learn it from a book?"

"I beg your pardon, thats no way to talk to the audience.." "MY NAMES BERRRNERD!!"

New Order playing True Faith live at the Hultsfred Festival in Hultsfred, Sweden on June 15th, 2002.

"I believe from all the pornos ive seen in the hotel, I think your all keen on pissing on eachother, is that right? Well if anyone wants to piss on philly here, please come back stage"

blue monday from a youtube vid..."turn this light off you cunt" japan 1985?

3:32

Animadversion wrote:

3:32

huh... why's it take the both of them to play those keyboards--was gillian's hand broken or soemthing?

nnn wrote:

huh... why's it take the both of them to play those keyboards--was gillian's hand broken or soemthing?

She must've had a chronic condition over the years then.

Gillian and Barney, and Gillian and Steve have always played together on keys. There are many clips of blue monday where barney joins Gillian on keys, the strings on the song are simple to play, therefore barney must use it to kill boredom.

Finsbury Park:

Barney: Do we want Hooky to turn his base down a little bit? Yes. Crowd: NO! Barney: Actually this song is all me anyway, all me, you know, I wrote it, it's all my lyrics. In fact I don't need anybody else so if you want a break, just fuck off for a bit.

BS:This next one, is off our latest one..uhhh Hooky:Technique, bernard BS:Yeah, eh Fuck you

michael preda wrote: Gillian and Barney, and Gillian and Steve have always played together on keys. There are many clips of blue monday where barney joins Gillian on keys, the strings on the song are simple to play, therefore barney must use it to kill boredom.

Bernard actually plays the higher string parts that come in towards the end of the song. Over the years, he has also played keyboards over the intro of Blue Monday and between verses.

On the 05 and 06 tours, Barney was playing so much keyboards on Blue Monday that he actually had his own Roland XP 80 set up just for him to play on Blue Monday.

Gillian is a superb keyboardist, and the melodies she wrote for New Order songs and what she brought to the band should never be underestimated. People need to respect Gillian Gilbert.

Thank you for the corrections Zachery, and yes Gillian has my respect. I don't really like phil, he doesn't mesh well with the others. Has Gillian ever done some kind of dance on stage? All the other members seem to burst into random, chaotic movements.

No, she just stand there without a care in the world looking hot!

michael preda wrote: Thank you for the corrections Zachery, and yes Gillian has my respect. I don't really like phil, he doesn't mesh well with the others. Has Gillian ever done some kind of dance on stage? All the other members seem to burst into random, chaotic movements.

Aw you are welcome sir!

I think Phil brings a good energy to the band when they play live, but he is not as good a synth player as Gillian. However, on the 05 06 tour, Phil did seem to be more interested in playing keyboards than he had before, and on the version of BM done on those tours, he did a lot of really cool stuff on the synths.

Gillian never really did any nutty dancing from what ive seen. She usually just stands there tapping her foot whilst concentrating on playing her keyboards.

michael preda wrote: Thank you for the corrections Zachery, and yes Gillian has my respect. I don't really like phil, he doesn't mesh well with the others. Has Gillian ever done some kind of dance on stage? All the other members seem to burst into random, chaotic movements.

Aw you are welcome sir!

I think Phil brings a good energy to the band when they play live, but he is not as good a synth player as Gillian. However, on the 05 06 tour, Phil did seem to be more interested in playing keyboards than he had before, and on the version of BM done on those tours, he did a lot of really cool stuff on the synths.

Gillian never really did any nutty dancing from what ive seen. She usually just stands there tapping her foot whilst concentrating on playing her keyboards.

Ally wrote:

Zachery Starkey wrote: Gillian is a superb keyboardist, and the melodies she wrote for New Order songs and what she brought to the band should never be underestimated. People need to respect Gillian Gilbert.

Are you still banging on about this?

If it bothers you then you can simply ignore it.

We should make a thread in honor of Gillian, she could atleast sing. I mean, no offense to Dawn, but Gillian has a way better voice, especially on "avalanche". She also has a very integral role in the early new order sound. She's also really good on guitar during everyone everywhere, and Leave me alone. If Gillian had any stage antics, I guess they'd be her glancing at the other band members as she slams away at the keys with her one finger style.

nnn wrote:

Animadversion wrote:

3:32

huh... why's it take the both of them to play those keyboards--was gillian's hand broken or soemthing?

3:32 mark only works if you watch the video directly from YouTube's site. Anytime you embed a YouTube vid, it counts the time backward instead of forward.

The 3:32 mark is where Barney says "Turn this light off you cunt."

As much as I hate to dissapoint you all but Gillian was NOT the fantastic contributer/ performer that some of you make out her to be. Bernard and to a lesser extent Stephen wrote all of the keyboard parts and I am certain that they recorded them as well. I happened to see them live two dozen times up to 1987 and I can assure you that she is not in the same league. Apologies if I have leaked the big conspiracy.

Damnit bernard and steven, damnit all to hell. So Gillian is another Andrew Fletcher?

Solitude wrote: As much as I hate to dissapoint you all but Gillian was NOT the fantastic contributer/ performer that some of you make out her to be. Bernard and to a lesser extent Stephen wrote all of the keyboard parts and I am certain that they recorded them as well. I happened to see them live two dozen times up to 1987 and I can assure you that she is not in the same league. Apologies if I have leaked the big conspiracy.

Thank fuck for that - I wish people would stop being so defensive about Gillian - fact is, as pointed at above, is that Barney and Stephen were responsible for the electronic sound that made New Order stand out.

Gillian played some bits that weren't programmed or started sequences and played a bit guitar - she may have contributed more I dunno - I'm not having a go at Gillian, but essentially, the New Order sound was Barney's Italo disco influence coming through.

End of.

So Gillian was a bit shit and didn't contribute that much. Only Aussies and Americans could get their knickers in a twist about that

Rural Country Boy wrote: So Gillian was a bit shit and didn't contribute that much. Only Aussies and Americans could get their knickers in a twist about that

Wankers!

Woo im a wanker now, I guess that a promotion from twat.

michael preda wrote: Woo im a wanker now, I guess that a promotion from twat.

Sorry to break the news Michael but being a wanker doesn't preclude you from being a twat.

"I can see all you Mission fans, standing in black, picking your fucking noses - this ones for you" - Barney, Reading 1989

James Thomas wrote:

michael preda wrote: Woo im a wanker now, I guess that a promotion from twat.

Sorry to break the news Michael but being a wanker doesn't preclude you from being a twat.

PETER COATES'S BELATED REDEMPTION wrote:

James Thomas wrote:

michael preda wrote: Woo im a wanker now, I guess that a promotion from twat.

Sorry to break the news Michael but being a wanker doesn't preclude you from being a twat.

Life's cruel like that

Emile Strunz wrote:

PETER COATES'S BELATED REDEMPTION wrote:

James Thomas wrote:

michael preda wrote: Woo im a wanker now, I guess that a promotion from twat.

Sorry to break the news Michael but being a wanker doesn't preclude you from being a twat.

Life's cruel like that

Shit, I suppose I should just get a sex change and rename my self clarissa. I think Steven is responsible for the new order sound.

Barney - "I've always liked the name Wolves, Wolves with big dicks, and we've got one 'ere..(gesturing at Hooky)" Wolves Civic 1986

Barney - "Your the worst fucking audience we've played to in our entire fucking lives, you bunch of miserable bastards, we're never ever going to play Berlin again" Pre-Confusion.

"Actually, I didn't mean it" Post-Confusion. Berlin Metropol 1984

Barneys a genius, now alot of songs couldve been award winning with language such as that.

Rural Country Boy wrote: So Gillian was a bit shit and didn't contribute that much. Only Aussies and Americans could get their knickers in a twist about that

It is a rumour also that Gillian was shagging somebody in the band, and that is how she got the gig. Shameful.

according to new order story, shes rumoured to have killed ian.

James Thomas wrote:

michael preda wrote: Woo im a wanker now, I guess that a promotion from twat.

Sorry to break the news Michael but being a wanker doesn't preclude you from being a twat.

..or a knob.

Solitude wrote: As much as I hate to dissapoint you all but Gillian was NOT the fantastic contributer/ performer that some of you make out her to be. Bernard and to a lesser extent Stephen wrote all of the keyboard parts and I am certain that they recorded them as well. I happened to see them live two dozen times up to 1987 and I can assure you that she is not in the same league. Apologies if I have leaked the big conspiracy.

Gillian wrote most of the music for Dream Attack and also played the superb lead guitar on the song.

According to producer Stephen Hague, Gillian wrote all of the keyboard parts for True Faith. She sat in the back of the studio working them out while the others did thier parts. When it came to record Gillians parts, Hague was amazed at not only how well written her parts were, how much they added to the song, but also how quickly and efficiently Gillian could record them.

Listen to TF.....there are a lot of little changes in the synth parts on the verses that add to the songs dynamic, and the chorus parts are hard to play.

Gillian played a lot fantastic ryhthm and lead guitar parts on Everyone Everywhere.

Gillian and Steve wrote the majority of World in Motion.

Gillian wrote her parts for Confusion, TPK, TLU and many other songs.

Of course Barney is the songwriting genuis of the band. and yes he and Steve do the lions share of the programming...and Hooky contributes the beautiful bass lines...

But Gillian added and played a lot of really simple yet gorgeous keyboard lines and melodies to those songs.

A lot of that has been missing since Gillian left. She was not just Steve's girlfriend to be bossed around and told what to play by Barney and Steve. She was an important part of the bands musical chemistry. Its blatant when you listen to New Order records made with her and without her.

And no, she was no virtuoso on on keyboards or guitar, but she could play well enough to write some pretty cool melodies and parts that added to what make New Order awesome, and frankly I think its a bit sexist to dismiss her as "Steve's dumb untalented girlfriend" when its blatantly apparent that she added to what New Order was.

Zachery Starkey wrote:

zzzzzz......

I refer the honourable gentleman to the answer given before..

Rural Country Boy wrote: So Gillian was a bit shit and didn't contribute that much. Only Aussies and Americans could get their knickers in a twist about that

Knob

She made a good cuppa tea :)

whores

She's a shite interviewer in new order play at home.

Zachery Starkey wrote:

A lot of that has been missing since Gillian left. She was not just Steve's girlfriend to be bossed around and told what to play by Barney and Steve. She was an important part of the bands musical chemistry. Its blatant when you listen to New Order records made with her and without her.

And no, she was no virtuoso on on keyboards or guitar, but she could play well enough to write some pretty cool melodies and parts that added to what make New Order awesome, and frankly I think its a bit sexist to dismiss her as "Steve's dumb untalented girlfriend" when its blatantly apparent that she added to what New Order was.

you are totally right.

how about - 'your using tapes' hooky - 'couldn't give a fuck' - blackpool 82 or your popstars - i might be a popstar but your a fucking wanker - hooky again - can't remember which gig - maybe NEC 91? dunno? anyway for the record/cd/mp3 its all down to steve & gill really, the other two are 'the other two' when it comes down to it if you catch my drift

nnn wrote:

Zachery Starkey wrote:

A lot of that has been missing since Gillian left. She was not just Steve's girlfriend to be bossed around and told what to play by Barney and Steve. She was an important part of the bands musical chemistry. Its blatant when you listen to New Order records made with her and without her.

And no, she was no virtuoso on on keyboards or guitar, but she could play well enough to write some pretty cool melodies and parts that added to what make New Order awesome, and frankly I think its a bit sexist to dismiss her as "Steve's dumb untalented girlfriend" when its blatantly apparent that she added to what New Order was.

you are totally right.

well I'm not going to be the first or last to say that live keyboards died with the loss of Gillian. Hell, I got excited by the idea of beefier guitars, but for anyone who caught them live in the 80's and early 90's will agree that the spontaneity, unpredictability, and regular keyboard fuck ups/extended onstage remixes etc, were a big attraction. Not forgetting those mournful keyboard accompaniments she added to the records too.

I look at those comeback gigs in the late nineties, and the gigs that followed from 2001 and, well, its a shame.

The official line was "becoming more professional" when they decided to use backing tracks rather than live keys.

There's no real need for backing tapes when the software's really fucking reliable these days.

Plus, it limits the variety of the setlist each night. Lazy cunts

'You shouldn't swear,there's several big blokes here that'll RIP YER FUCKIN' HEAD OFF!' - Hooky '83?

& all this negativity toward Gillian? Tut,tut,very naughty,I'm not havin' it,you hear ?

mark reed wrote: "I can see all you Mission fans, standing in black, picking your fucking noses - this ones for you" - Barney, Reading 1989

Not quite, but piss funny nonetheless. Listen to the scowl in Sumner's voice when he says, "...picking your fucking noses." Pure class: