JD Fan -or- NO Fan

So what's yer persuation?

joy division since 79

morning ,night and day.

NU ORDAH!!!

Indeed!

Joy Division. New Order don't even come close.

NO fan.

I discovered New Order first and got into Joy Division through them.

We had this discussion last night. While New Order come first for me, we agreed Joy Division have never put out a bad record. New Order have.

Can I be both?

I don't really like JDs music. To me, it sounds like 'my band' learning their instruments with a different singer.

Killer production on some of their tracks, but that's not really the band, is it?

And the songs themselves are great - as demonstrated by some of New Order's versions of them.

I know that's gonna go down badly with some of the navel-gazers, but that's how I feel.

Biginoil wrote: I don't really like JDs music. To me, it sounds like 'my band' learning their instruments with a different singer.

Killer production on some of their tracks, but that's not really the band, is it?

And the songs themselves are great - as demonstrated by some of New Order's versions of them.

I know that's gonna go down badly with some of the navel-gazers, but that's how I feel.

Well, I agree with you there!

generally, new order in the spring-summer, and joy division in the fall-winter. Largely it depends on my mental state.

Biginoil wrote: I don't really like JDs music. To me, it sounds like 'my band' learning their instruments with a different singer.

Killer production on some of their tracks, but that's not really the band, is it?

And the songs themselves are great - as demonstrated by some of New Order's versions of them.

I know that's gonna go down badly with some of the navel-gazers, but that's how I feel.

I actually prefer NOs versions of the JD songs... sacreligious I know.

NO has always been my band since I was 12. I can listen to NO any day, anytime, anywhere, in any mood... JD on the other hand, I have to be in the right place, in the right mood....

But Jemma is right, NO has released some shite and JD never really did... but NO did last just a wee longer, so I'll let that tidbit go....

Monsieur Round & Round wrote: Can I be both?

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Both have greatly enriched my existance in their own way. I just think of them as different phases of the same entity.

Biginoil wrote: I don't really like JDs music. To me, it sounds like 'my band' learning their instruments with a different singer.

Killer production on some of their tracks, but that's not really the band, is it?

And the songs themselves are great - as demonstrated by some of New Order's versions of them.

I know that's gonna go down badly with some of the navel-gazers, but that's how I feel.

Totally agree; i have tried to like Joy Division, but I can't, probably because one of my favourite parts of NO is Bernard's voice. Probably explains why I'm not so into early NO.

The closest I have ever got to hating NO, was when I went to Wembley Arena in 2006, and they announced "Tonight we are Joy Division". I am not joking- three songs in I said "If this is going to be all JD then I'm off". I like one or two of JD's songs, but have always been slightly annoyed when they get treated more seriously than NO, as I think NO are so much better. They really are like two different bands (which is a cedit to their diversity),but one of these bands is not one I would choose to listen to.

NO, on the basis that JD were never a going concern or released a single when i was musically aware. I'm not into this retro-fan business.

Not that i havent discovered JD since.. but I prefer to grow up with bands evolving careers, as i have NO, with all the ups and downs, and gigs etc.

I can appreciate Joy Division through having loved New Order..New Order piss all over everyone though.

Have to say NO fan. Lucky enough to have got into Joy Division through NO,took a few listens but I like them equally now. Back then I was more a synth person,but there's nothing like a good mosh is there?

NO Fan

New Order fan, I can only enjoy joy division from 24 hour party people...dont kill me.

why chose?

they're BEFORE and AFTER and then some.

ND Fan

Shug Sludden wrote:

Dodjem wrote: NO fan.

I discovered New Order first and got into Joy Division through them.

We had this discussion last night. While New Order come first for me, we agreed Joy Division have never put out a bad record. New Order have.

What she said.

What they two said...

Both ! I started with JOY DIVISION way back from Summer '78 through to the present day. They're my absolute N°1 off all genres.

But I do LOVE New Order equally for the 'tour de force' of what they've brilliantly achieved and especially considering the hard (for them) early years, before the commercial (and so well deserved) breakthrough of 'Blue Monday'. They're Unique ! you know that.

Kind regards.

Joy Division songs are great and I will always like them, however they are a bit depressing and Barney cannot do them justice.

I first saw New Order at Glastonbury 1981 and have not looked back. 1983 -1987 was a superb time with a different set each night and NO encore leaving you wanting more.

If it could be captured in a picture it would be:-

Barney’s amp with a bottle of pernod and a hohner melodica – HAPPY DAYS indeed :)

interesting thread actually - of course the results are not surprising since this is NOT joydivisiononline....

JD preffered. Powerfull, intense and majestic.(sensible lyrics too)

Copybook blotted by Hannett's Unknown Pleasures indulgant effects wank.

Surely JD & NO were just a mediocre warm-up for the genuine greatness of Revenge????

voted for JD since they were first. Grew up on JD and then NO. Just evolution.