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Regarding the title of this track...

On the US version of "The Best Of" it's listed as "Let's Go (Nothing For Me)".

On the "Fan" CD of "Retro" it's listed as "Let's Go".

And on the "Bonus" CD of "Retro" it's listed as "Let's G... (Instrumental)".

Are the first two meant to be labeled differently like that? Slightly different edits? Or should they both be (Nothing For Me) and Retro just omitted the part in parenthesis?

As for the instrumental, why did they omit the "o" from "Go" and label it as "Let's G... (Instrumental)" instead of "Let's Go (Instrumental)"?

Never been able to get my head around all the titles. :scratch:

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Well, the original song was called "Let's Go" - originally with different lyrics and only played live.

The instrumental version then appeared on the "Salvation!" soundtrack - an edit of which appeared on Retro CD5, hence (probably!), the "Let's G" title - i.e. it's not the complete instrumental! :p

New lyrics were then made for the (the best of) New Order album (Barney working with Arthur Baker on this one?), which then added "(Nothing For Me)" - to distinguish it (possibly?) from the instrumental.

That's what I think, anyway...

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Ah, that makes sense. The one on the Best Of is 4:02 in length, and the one just labeled "Let's Go" on Retro is 3:53. The lyrics appear the same to me, so I guess they just omitted the (Nothing For Me) on Retro by mistake.

Unless someone else has any other knowledge on the topic...?

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Nick King wrote: Well, the original song was called "Let's Go" - originally with different lyrics and only played live.

This was the "waiting for so long" version and was demo'd. Better lyrics in my humble opinion.

Nick King wrote: New lyrics were then made for the (the best of) New Order album (Barney working with Arthur Baker on this one?), which then added "(Nothing For Me)" - to distinguish it (possibly?) from the instrumental.

That's what I think, anyway...

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Interestingly (well, actually not) the best of album version is 4:02 yet the 1994 version included as part of the 1963 single release was 3:54 when it should be the same track.

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The "1963" b-side version and the US "? (the best of)" version are slightly different mixes. For instance the former fades out, while the latter has a cold ending and is also missing a cymbal crash mid-song.

As for "Let's G...", interesting theory! I expect the 2008 "remasters" will list the tracks "...lue Monday" and "...enses" for the same reason, unless they can actually get the mastering right.

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From the press release for (the best of):

"Arthur baker and New Order's paths crossed when they both found themselves contributing material for the soundtrack to the film SALVATION. "They had an instrumental called "Let's Go" that really knocked me out," Baker recounts, "and I suggested we go in and add a vocal track. Bernard and I wrote the lyrics and at the time we were both going through relationship break-ups, which I guess accounts for the bitter edge to the words. Bernard sang the song, but nothing really came of it."

Nothing, that is, until the summer of 1994, when work on (THE BEST OF) got underway. Arthur Baker: "I heard they were doing a compilation and I suggested they reconsider "Let's Go", always one of my favorite New Order cuts.

The original vocal track needed some work, so Bernard and I rewrote a verse as well as putting in a new guitar part and adding some sampling and reprogramming."

So, that's the story between the two versions...

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The original version of Let's Go live was always an instrumental,there is a demo version knocking about from '84/'85 that has vocals I believe,tho' I've never heard it.

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Nick King wrote: From the press release for (the best of):

"Arthur baker and New Order's paths crossed when they both found themselves contributing material for the soundtrack to the film SALVATION.

So that pre-dates Confusion?

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James Thomas wrote:

Nick King wrote: From the press release for (the best of):

"Arthur baker and New Order's paths crossed when they both found themselves contributing material for the soundtrack to the film SALVATION.

So that pre-dates Confusion?

I don't think so, think Salvation was 1988?

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Nick King wrote:

James Thomas wrote:

Nick King wrote: From the press release for (the best of):

"Arthur baker and New Order's paths crossed when they both found themselves contributing material for the soundtrack to the film SALVATION.

So that pre-dates Confusion?

I don't think so, think Salvation was 1988?

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Touched by the hand of god was written for salvation, so around 87-88, I think (but I'm probably going to get shot down for this) that TBTHOG was played at glasto 87, so the writing of the film tracks must have been 87, but deffo a few years after confusion/TLU

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This is what I hate about the internet/forum,you can't always see the tongue firmly in cheek, the smug 'I'm winding you up,you know it but can't resist biting" grin that accompanies statements like what I wrote above.

We all know Confusion was 1983 and Salvation 1987. The press release is bollocks. Not as much fun this way though.

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James Thomas wrote: This is what I hate about the internet/forum,you can't always see the tongue firmly in cheek, the smug 'I'm winding you up,you know it but can't resist biting" grin that accompanies statements like what I wrote above.

We all know Confusion was 1983 and Salvation 1987. The press release is bollocks. Not as much fun this way though.

Bloody hell, yeah, I see what you mean now (forgive me, I've been up all night)! :lol:

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Nick King wrote:

James Thomas wrote: This is what I hate about the internet/forum,you can't always see the tongue firmly in cheek, the smug 'I'm winding you up,you know it but can't resist biting" grin that accompanies statements like what I wrote above.

We all know Confusion was 1983 and Salvation 1987. The press release is bollocks. Not as much fun this way though.

Bloody hell, yeah, I see what you mean now (forgive me, I've been up all night)! :lol:

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and i've had a few stella's :blush:

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Well, I was at a DJ night dancing along to tracks played by the aforementioned Arthur Baker (including Confusion)! :)

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Nick King wrote: Well, I was at a DJ night dancing along to tracks played by the aforementioned Arthur Baker (including Confusion)! :)

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You just won't believe me ......

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James Thomas wrote:

Nick King wrote: Well, I was at a DJ night dancing along to tracks played by the aforementioned Arthur Baker (including Confusion)! :)

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You just won't believe me ......

:rofl: :smoking:

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I wonder what version will appear on Low Life Disc 2? The original '85 demo should be the one. Surely they ain't gonna put the '94 rework on.:nonono:

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PHD wrote: I wonder what version will appear on Low Life Disc 2? The original '85 demo should be the one. Surely they ain't gonna put the '94 rework on.:nonono:

Well, I hope so (demo)... I was wondering which version of Elegia they were going to put on (the 17 minute version on Retro)?

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is it just me, or does the demo of let's go sound like 'Sooner Than You Think'?

sounds to me like they dropped the track or completely reworked it into STYT

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If it had been reworked you wouldn't have heard it again after Low Life but it was played until 1987 so that's a no.

The song was dropped, one that didn't make it onto Low Life, shame really as Sooner than you think or This time of night could have given way in my opinion.

The song was certainly liked by Hooky who played it with Revenge. Just a bit of fret wanking on a bass though innit?

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Nick King wrote:

PHD wrote: I wonder what version will appear on Low Life Disc 2? The original '85 demo should be the one. Surely they ain't gonna put the '94 rework on.:nonono:

Well, I hope so (demo)... I was wondering which version of Elegia they were going to put on (the 17 minute version on Retro)?

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It can't really be anything else than the full Elegia, can it? I bet Let's Go is the Salvation instrumental... Now, if it was the original vocal demo after all, this package would actually be worth buying!

When and where was "Let's Go" played by Revenge, by the way? Unless you mean WDYWFM, which one could say is a descendant of Let's Go (in more than one way)...

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Opened with it April 19th 1990 Newcastle Riverside.

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Opened with it April 19th 1990 Newcastle Riverside.

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Unless I'm completely deluding myself and have done so for 18 years, yes.

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James Thomas wrote: Unless I'm completely deluding myself and have done so for 18 years, yes.

You've been deluding yourself for 18 years James they opened with 'Jesus I love you'.... I checked my Revenge vaults to confirm

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Hooky's Six String Bass wrote:

James Thomas wrote: Unless I'm completely deluding myself and have done so for 18 years, yes.

You've been deluding yourself for 18 years James they opened with 'Jesus I love you'.... I checked my Revenge vaults to confirm

JESUS i LOVE this!:laugh: :p :scream: :thumb:

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I'm well confused, sure I've seen them play it. Put it down to age.

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Sorry James,I've got the boot',it's definately 'Jesus...' & not 'Let's Go' :nod:

& it's a quality bit of fret wanking too,but definately shouldn't have been included on LowLife at the expense of STYT or TTON IMO,2 of my all-time favs' & 2 of N.O.'s best.To be honest,I don't think it fits on LowLife,but that may be just because of time & what I'm used to :thumb:

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poorshakes wrote: is it just me, or does the demo of let's go sound like 'Sooner Than You Think'?

sounds to me like they dropped the track or completely reworked it into STYT

It sounds VERY much like STYT. "waiting for so long, oh Ive been waiting for a chance to see ya" could easily be "you know what we do is so unkind, we search for the life we need to find".

Also, NO seem to have gone back to this song in 2001 and lifted the keyboard mid solo for 60MPH.

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JT - soz but yr wrong bud, actually got me querrying it & made me go round me mams loft to check an old tape i have of said show. Only remember em doing Dreams never End in Revenge shows. Remember going back from the smoke to newcastle to see the bearded one perform Old age - carnt wait:nono: :nono:

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Pretty sure I have gone on about this before, but the whole thing with Let's Go pretty much encapsulates New Order!

The song was written as an instrumental in early 1985, and was intended for Low Life, but then they got cold feet about having two instrumentals on the album and stuck the TPK edit on as a late sub. Barney had tried to come up with some lyrics for it at that stage, hence the demo version that was around at the time that had the "waiting for so long" lyrics, but they weren't happy with it and decided to leave it off the album. It was a live favourite of theirs though, and it was apparently when they were doing the Salvation soundtrack (when they wrote TBTHOG) that Arthur Baker suggested they record Let's Go again for the soundtrack, which they duly did. I'm not entirely sure who was responsible for it being re-recorded with different and crap lyrics on the "nothing for me" version for that Best Of comp, possibly Arthur Baker again?

Great song though, the instrumental is my favourite NO song by some distance.

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Tim wrote: I'm not entirely sure who was responsible for it being re-recorded with different and crap lyrics on the "nothing for me" version for that Best Of comp, possibly Arthur Baker again?

Apparently, Barney and Arthur Baker went (or met up) on holiday sometime after Republic and randomly rediscovered the Let's Go instrumental. With (the best of) compilation looming Baker suggested they breath new life into the song and finish it off for inclusion. As the band obviously weren't talking to each other at this point I would presume Bernard and AB are pretty much responsible for what you hear in terms of lyrical choice and the overall mix for the (Nothing For Me) version; it has a very mid-nineties/Raise The Pressure type production sheen.

As I'm sure most fans familiar with the Salvation! version can hear; the drums and bass are grabbed (and cleaned up) directly from that instrumental with the obvious new parts being Barney's guitar & vocal. The keyboards sound re-recorded as well or at least blended with the instrumental's.

I do remember reading an interview with Hooky around the time where he was asked "aren't New Order bringing out a [unnamed] new single?" and as this was in the middle of their five year hiatus he - jokingly or not - hinted Barney would get a "fat lip" if he tried to release a "new" New Order single without his say so. I'd put money on that "new single" being the Let's Go (Nothing For Me) promo CD released solely in the States in advance of the their differently tracklisted (the best of). To most journalists this would sound like an entirely new single as the song had previously only made it out in rough demo form or as an apparent jam at live shows.

As with Tim, I've got a special fondness for the instrumental version... the keyboard break and ensuing guitar riff are simply the dawg's bollocks :thumb:

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What can I say, I love the Best of version. :shrug: It was the first version I heard, though, which I'm sure has something to do with it. I'm generally not to fond of instrumentals anyway.

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