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Blur, New Order stars form supergroup Friday, June 12 2009, 17:08 BST

By Alex Fletcher, Senior Entertainment Reporter

Rex Features Blur's Alex James and three members of New Order have formed a supergroup called Bad Lieutenant.

New Order's Bernard Sumner, Stephen Morris and Phil Cunningham will unite with James to release an album in October.

"I'm very proud of it, it's a very good album," Sumner told the BBC. "It's pretty guitary too because we've got three guitarists in the band."

The frontman confirmed that the group will be playing live dates later this year and festivals in 2010. Live footage of their track 'Sink Or Swim' is already available to watch online.

New Order split in 2007, following a public row between bassist Peter Hook and the rest of the band.

"We split into two factions, there's me, Steve and Phil. The other is Peter Hook," said the singer. "Basically he left the band, that's all I want to say about it."

James is currently rehearsing with Blur ahead of their summer reunion tour, which includes shows at Hyde Park and Glastonbury.

looks like poor Hooky shot himself in the foot on this one.

love this quote:-

"We split into two factions, there's me, Steve and Phil. The other is Peter Hook," said the singer.

so now that we are down to 50% Joy Division, will we refer to songs played live as covers?

Tarbox23 wrote: looks like poor Hooky shot himself in the foot on this one.

No, think Hooky actually kept his self respect, and respect for JD and NO.

Bernard obviously has an attitude towards Peter and is always going to imply that "it's his problem, not mine"

They don't even mention the Leroy and Rambo guys. Seems like only one is going to be in the band, but I thought he was doing a large chunk of the writing. Wait and see what actually ends up as the product.

The lack of mentioning of the Rambo and Leroy guy (Jake Evans, I think) isn't really Barney's fault, I think.

Every other article about Bad Lieutenant seems to have a different focus on the members.

For example, there's articles out there that act like it's a mashup (so to speak) between Blur and New Order (remaining 3 members anyway), whereas, that's probably not how the people involved perceive it.

Not to mention, the casual throwing of the word 'supergroup' by the media...

0_o wrote:

Tarbox23 wrote: looks like poor Hooky shot himself in the foot on this one.

No, think Hooky actually kept his self respect, and respect for JD and NO.

Bernard obviously has an attitude towards Peter and is always going to imply that "it's his problem, not mine"

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I have always thought Bernard had a bad attitude problem towards most things. Hooky is a top bloke who obviously couldn't tolerate Bernards attitude anymore - I don't blame him .

Ger Boy wrote:

0_o wrote:

Tarbox23 wrote: looks like poor Hooky shot himself in the foot on this one.

No, think Hooky actually kept his self respect, and respect for JD and NO.

Bernard obviously has an attitude towards Peter and is always going to imply that "it's his problem, not mine"

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I have always thought Bernard had a bad attitude problem towards most things. Hooky is a top bloke who obviously couldn't tolerate Bernards attitude anymore - I don't blame him .

its funny how its just hooky who cant tolerate barney anymore. stephen, phil and i dare say gillian all seem to get on with him. maybe hooky just has a large ego that needs to be on stage all the time or doing interviews on tv and updating his myspace etc. maybe the others cant be bothered with that sort of thing...

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/bernard-sumner-seething-with-hook_1106419

BERNARD SUMNER SEETHING WITH HOOK

Bernard Sumner has blasted his former New Order bandmate Peter Hook for quitting the group.

Bernard Sumner says Peter Hook can "f**k" off.

The singer has no plans to work with his former New Order bandmate because they no longer speak to one another.

Asked about his new musical project with New Order drummer Stephen Morris, Bernard replied: "It's very guitar based, we're just rehearsing at the moment. We won't be releasing it as New Order, basically Hooky left so we didn't want to carry on. I've not spoken to him since he went but Stephen's spoken to him."

Stephen added to BANG Showbiz: "Don't fall out with anybody, that's my motto in life, one thing - don't fall out, it's not worth it."

However, an angry Bernard then quipped: "That's not my motto, my motto is f**k him!"

Bassist Peter - whose nickname is 'Hooky' - announced in May 2007 he was no longer with the group, but confusion reigned for several months afterwards as the remaining members insisted the band was still together.

In July 2007, the group issued a statement saying: "After 30 years in a band together we are very disappointed that Hooky has decided to go to the press and announce unilaterally that New Order have split up. We would have hoped that he could have approached us personally first. He does not speak for all the band, therefore we can only assume he no longer wants to be a part of New Order."

New Order have not released any recordings since the statement.

Cant get into this its Barneys fault or Hookys, whats happended as happended I for one am looking forward to the new albums from Bad Lieutenant AND Freebass and concerts to.

The custard pie slinging is a bit of a shame.

:mad4:

Ne'er mind; as been said; at least we have two doses of NO related material to look forward to.

:D

I hope Sink Or Swim is the debut single.

redken wrote: love this quote:-

"We split into two factions, there's me, Steve and Phil. The other is Peter Hook," said the singer.

I am just waiting my bass master asnswer

Is Bernard telling orders to Steve and Phil or Hooky prefers to be a dj travelling everywhere?

Love is the air that supports Barney's ego

It's been two years already, I was hoping things would cool down...

A sad state of affairs for New Order.

But, at least we'll get some new music from both factions this year.. ehm, hopefully.

'Stephen added to BANG Showbiz: "Don't fall out with anybody, that's my motto in life, one thing - don't fall out, it's not worth it."'

I think I've just found my new signature line - nice one Steve - voice of reason as usual

Check the guardian from today:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/jun/15/new-order-blur-supergroup

Does he look old in that pic or what?

PARKLIFE or BACKtoLIFE?

the papers over exaggerate things always. cut little bits and pieces to make them more interesting. maybey he was begin sarcastic....right

Martijn wrote: Check the guardian from today:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/jun/15/new-order-blur-supergroup

Does he look old in that pic or what?

its not too bad, there are worse out there which i will refrain from posting, to prevent further harm.

almansoglasnost wrote: i could be wrong but i really think barney is mad at hooky because in a way he killed the goose that lays the golden eggs (NO). i mean he left the band and he said he won't allowd the others to carry on with the name NO. so that didn't left too many options but to change the name. and let's face it, money is a big issue here since it's not the same to book a band as NO than to book BadLt. they will pay them less money to play live. the same with the record contract because the name "NO" attracts a certain floor of sales and the name "BadLt" doesn't. so on the business side this is an "expensive" decision that hooky made. on the other hand i agree with him that if you don't feel comfortable with something you musn't go on doing it. but there're some who focus on the "professional" side and do it anyway if it pays the rent and turns on the light.

Yeah, you could really sense the bitterness that Bernard has now for Hooky and I'd agree with you about leaving the band members in a bind, professionally.

I'm split about their breakup. I mean, I'd love to hear new New Order music. But I'd imagine their music would be less interesting if Hooky decided to stay and dial it in. When they didn't give a fook, their music was so much more interesting than their comeback in 2001 and on, where you could feel the internal pressure for hit singles.

To be honest I think Mr Sumner has every right to snipe at Hooky. I remember PH was being INTOLERABLE back in 2007, shooting his mouth off at every opportunity...

Ally wrote: It's horses for courses really. There was indeed a period where Hooky was quite vocal about the split and it's a bit rich observing all the "Hooky fans" (of which I count myself) reacting in faux disgust at Bernard's recent comments. "How dare insult our bass hero etc" is deeply sycophantic and a bit sad unless of course it's Jack and he's your Dad.

It's totally pointless because we - the fans - will never really know what went on behind the scenes and you can't draw much from random quotes in tiny news articles. I prefer to keep the opinion they're both twats (!), they've both probably got very valid grievances against each other but apparently neither will be the first to stand down. Hooky's more than put his side forward in blogs and now Bernard's been refreshingly honest in print. Seems fair enough to me.

I am looking forward to Hooky's response though

I agree that they're both twats (for this is why we love them so!) but I'm more of the opinion that that they both probably have extremely petty grievances against one another and neither of them will admit it.

God bless 'em!

i actually really liked the track bernard did on that Sky show, credit where its due. love hooky

However, an angry Bernard then quipped: "That's not my motto, my motto is f**k him!"

Says it all really.

Also,

Ally wrote: It's totally pointless because we - the fans - will never really know what went on behind the scenes and you can't draw much from random quotes in tiny news articles.

Everyone should remember this.

Whatev​er the greater ones do, the lesser will prattle of, Jack.

Some more lesser than others.

mORE OR less what HE said.........

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