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Think this was in the Sunday Express a couple of weeks back, but I've only just seen it sent from a mate in my email.

It's a photo of New Order. Bless.

Leicester Free Trade Hall though? Bad journo.

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El Jarvo wrote: Think this was in the Sunday Express a couple of weeks back, but I've only just seen it sent from a mate in my email.

It's a photo of New Order. Bless.

Leicester Free Trade Hall though? Bad journo.

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Didn't know that Barney likes dogs :brow:

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Big Mouth Julio wrote: Didn't know that Barney likes dogs :brow:

You come out with the weirdest comments :lol:

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I think Hooky has the date of the photograph wrong. This is more likely to have been 1992-1993, when they were doing Republic.

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Eric Wang wrote: I think Hooky has the date of the photograph wrong. This is more likely to have been 1992-1993, when they were doing Republic.

How so? :scratch:

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Nick King wrote:

Eric Wang wrote: I think Hooky has the date of the photograph wrong. This is more likely to have been 1992-1993, when they were doing Republic.

How so? :scratch:

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  1. haircuts - Bernard's, Gillian's, Steve's and Hooky's hair styles are more 90s. In particular, Bernard's hair in the photo looks like the same style that he had when he was promoting Electronic's first EP, which is after Technique. Gillian had longer hair in the late 80s, and here she's got it all cut short.
  2. Bernard's jeans - baggy, which is an early 90s thing
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Eric Wang wrote: I think Hooky has the date of the photograph wrong. This is more likely to have been 1992-1993, when they were doing Republic.

I disagree. Hooky has mentioned recording this album in his book about the Hac and how they all got off their faces "Big Time" (sorry about that...........)

If that photo was taken during the Republic period, there would have blood and guts everywhere. Plus they would have all been superimposed together as Barney and Hooky hated each others guts during this recording period....

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Eric Wang wrote: 2. Bernard's jeans - baggy, which is an early 90s thing

Haven't compared photos of haircuts, but baggy jeans in the late 80's (especially in Manchester!) was the norm...

Luckily I never bought any of them at the time, though! :p

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Nick King wrote:

Eric Wang wrote: 2. Bernard's jeans - baggy, which is an early 90s thing

Haven't compared photos of haircuts, but baggy jeans in the late 80's (especially in Manchester!) was the norm...

Luckily I never bought any of them at the time, though! :p

:smoking:

....or Drinks :beer::evil4:

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RoCkeT MIck wrote:

Nick King wrote:

Eric Wang wrote: 2. Bernard's jeans - baggy, which is an early 90s thing

Haven't compared photos of haircuts, but baggy jeans in the late 80's (especially in Manchester!) was the norm...

Luckily I never bought any of them at the time, though! :p

:smoking:

....or Drinks :beer::evil4:

:spit: :rofl: :thumb:

You out this Friday, Mick? :)

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Nick King wrote:

RoCkeT MIck wrote:

Nick King wrote:

Eric Wang wrote: 2. Bernard's jeans - baggy, which is an early 90s thing

Haven't compared photos of haircuts, but baggy jeans in the late 80's (especially in Manchester!) was the norm...

Luckily I never bought any of them at the time, though! :p

:smoking:

....or Drinks :beer::evil4:

:spit: :rofl: :thumb:

You out this Friday, Mick? :)

:smoking:

Sadly NO.:rolleyes:

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Eric Wang wrote:

Nick King wrote:

Eric Wang wrote: I think Hooky has the date of the photograph wrong. This is more likely to have been 1992-1993, when they were doing Republic.

How so? :scratch:

:smoking:

  1. haircuts - Bernard's, Gillian's, Steve's and Hooky's hair styles are more 90s. In particular, Bernard's hair in the photo looks like the same style that he had when he was promoting Electronic's first EP, which is after Technique. Gillian had longer hair in the late 80s, and here she's got it all cut short.
  2. Bernard's jeans - baggy, which is an early 90s thing

Yep, I reckon it's 1992/93 too. They look identicle to how they look in the Regret video.

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we need a poll.

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It's definitely Republic era - they look identical to the Regret video. Barney still had the wartime orphan haircut in '88-'89 - his hair here is identical to the Electronic cover of Melody Maker in late '90 after they'd opened for Depeche Mode in LA.

I have zero confidence in Hooky recalling dates - especially after reading his book.

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Have to agree with our American chums, it definitely looks more like the Republic era. The haircuts really are a dead giveaway and just look at Bernard's face, (more than usual) fucking miserable! :laugh: They may have hated each other then but their paths would have physically crossed at some point during the recording process, even if only for the obligatory photo.

I don't think the cropped Gillian hair appeared at all during the Technique years, she still had shoulder length then? Definitely 1992ish.

No big deal mind :shrug: but I wouldn't like to bet hard currency that's a photo from the Technique recording sessions.

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Republic was also done at Real World, hence the confusion.

It bodes well for his two upcoming JD/NO books though, maybe someone with a memory should proof read them.

And the Sex Pistols at the "Leicester Free Trade Hall"!

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i would say late 92' just by looking at Barny n Gillians get-up. No way 88/9

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Republic recording sessions.

That's Stephen Hague on the right. He did a nice remix of Round & Round but was otherwise not involved with the production of Technique.

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Is that Stephen Hague on the far right or behind Steve? I just remembered that this photo is included in Hooky's Hacienda book but is undated... just reads "at Real World studios". The person on the right is listed as New Order's American manager Tom Atencio.

The question is, is Atencio the guy to the far right or sitting behind Steve slightly obscured? Must admit I know what Hague looks like but didn't think that was him on the far right in that shot. Could be wrong.

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ally wrote: Is that Stephen Hague on the far right or behind Steve? I just remembered that this photo is included in Hooky's Hacienda book but is undated... just reads "at Real World studios". The person on the right is listed as New Order's American manager Tom Atencio.

The question is, is Atencio the guy to the far right or sitting behind Steve slightly obscured? Must admit I know what Hague looks like but didn't think that was him on the far right in that shot. Could be wrong.

Hague is the one right behind Steve. No doubt it's from Republic era. How young Sarah looks!!! A teenager indeed but not sympathic as usual!!!

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ally wrote: Is that Stephen Hague on the far right or behind Steve? I just remembered that this photo is included in Hooky's Hacienda book but is undated... just reads "at Real World studios". The person on the right is listed as New Order's American manager Tom Atencio.

The question is, is Atencio the guy to the far right or sitting behind Steve slightly obscured? Must admit I know what Hague looks like but didn't think that was him on the far right in that shot. Could be wrong.

Looks a bit like Andy Robinson behind Steve.

I believe the gentleman on the right is Hague, but I suppose it could be Mr. Atencio. I've never actually seen Tom Atencio although I did speak to him on the phone briefly in 1993. I was thanking him for the free box seat tickets to the Hollywood Bowl gig he kindly offered.

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Andy wrote:

ally wrote: Is that Stephen Hague on the far right or behind Steve? I just remembered that this photo is included in Hooky's Hacienda book but is undated... just reads "at Real World studios". The person on the right is listed as New Order's American manager Tom Atencio.

The question is, is Atencio the guy to the far right or sitting behind Steve slightly obscured? Must admit I know what Hague looks like but didn't think that was him on the far right in that shot. Could be wrong.

Looks a bit like Andy Robinson behind Steve.

I believe the gentleman on the right is Hague, but I suppose it could be Mr. Atencio. I've never actually seen Tom Atencio although I did speak to him on the phone briefly in 1993. I was thanking him for the free box seat tickets to the Hollywood Bowl gig he kindly offered.

Sorry, but ya're mistaken this time m8.

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Oh fuck it then. I give in. I don't know when it was. I just wanted to join in and thought if I come in with a big shout saying its Technique era you lot would go, "Whoa, maybe Jim's right!" and I'd feel good. But I'm not so I'll just not say anything next time.

Thanks a lot.

.... Are you happy now??

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I feel pretty good.

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Surprised none of the BA Crew have pointed out that if that's Sarah, it's way after Tequnique, Shirley?

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Jim R wrote: Oh fuck it then. I give in. I don't know when it was. I just wanted to join in and thought if I come in with a big shout saying its Technique era you lot would go, "Whoa, maybe Jim's right!" and I'd feel good. But I'm not so I'll just not say anything next time.

Thanks a lot.

.... Are you happy now??

:bag:

Yes cos meanwhile i am getting the FACTORY logos WRONG on another thread and now i have found a SCAPEGOAT.:lol: Wronger than ROCKET MICK....and he's NEVER right!:rofl: Whoa,maybe Jim's right!Where is SHed when you need him?

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Big Mouth Julio wrote:

Andy wrote:

ally wrote: Is that Stephen Hague on the far right or behind Steve? I just remembered that this photo is included in Hooky's Hacienda book but is undated... just reads "at Real World studios". The person on the right is listed as New Order's American manager Tom Atencio.

The question is, is Atencio the guy to the far right or sitting behind Steve slightly obscured? Must admit I know what Hague looks like but didn't think that was him on the far right in that shot. Could be wrong.

Looks a bit like Andy Robinson behind Steve.

I believe the gentleman on the right is Hague, but I suppose it could be Mr. Atencio. I've never actually seen Tom Atencio although I did speak to him on the phone briefly in 1993. I was thanking him for the free box seat tickets to the Hollywood Bowl gig he kindly offered.

Sorry, but ya're mistaken this time m8.

Stephen Hague at the time he worked with New Order

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar05/articles/classictracks.htm

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Nice one JED:lol:

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johnny james wrote:

And the Sex Pistols at the "Leicester Free Trade Hall"!

I'd say that's more likely down to the journalist, not Hooky

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