When did the Hooky Cash in start?

The Paradise Man wrote: Hooky didn't set the price for the ltd ed book release. The publishers did. He agreed to do it by making it worthwhile and by giving the fans some extras, like: the EP, the dancefloor, the signature, the postcards, the artwork etc. Good on him I say. Have a day off...

Ok...so if the ep was an "extra"...where else can I pick it up...or the music that's on it...

oh wait...its ONLY available with the special edition of the book...then it is exclusively tied to it...and therefore the result is that we are priced out of obtaining the music.

Artists have control over what gets released and for how much...or at the very least...Hooky could make the music available to us in another format that is realistically available to most of us...this is HIS choice...not a publisher's choice.

It is fair to hold him accountable for choosing to make this music only available to his wealthiest fans if this is the only format that it is sold in.

Again...its about disappointment not "right"

Agreed, he has at this point in time made the release of the EP exclusive to the book release. But we can all rest assured that one day the 4 songs will be available separately..... Remember... this is a Limited release, at a high price granted. It is not for the masses. Judge it for what it is, not for what it ain't! Exclusivity is the key here.... Collectibility is the key here... This is not a standard release... That comes later....

So when the tracks are "possibly" release din the future, will they come in a wooden case with your own FAC number, a certificate of authenticity, and a saville type engraving?

I was hoping it'd be like the noble collections "ring" from LOTR.

michael preda wrote: So when the tracks are "possibly" release din the future, will they come in a wooden case with your own FAC number, a certificate of authenticity, and a saville type engraving?

I was hoping it'd be like the noble collections "ring" from LOTR.

No, that's a bit too far fetched..

Day of the LORDS more like!

The Paradise Man wrote: But we can all rest assured that one day the 4 songs will be available separately.....

How do you know that?

Nick King wrote:

The Paradise Man wrote: But we can all rest assured that one day the 4 songs will be available separately.....

How do you know that?

Reliably informed.... I would have thought it was patently obvious. Hopefully not in a remastered form though!

michael preda wrote: So when the tracks are "possibly" release din the future, will they come in a wooden case with your own FAC number, a certificate of authenticity, and a saville type engraving?

I was hoping it'd be like the noble collections "ring" from LOTR.

anyone wearing that ring is screaming to get their arse kicked... almost as bad as a bumper sticker on a window I saw today: "Hogwarts Alumni"...

well if the tracks are released in a general way then I can live with that...

Hooky should take these comments for what they are...a simple desire by his fans to have more music!

...not a denial of his right to make a living as he sees fit.

EdelBrock wrote:

michael preda wrote: So when the tracks are "possibly" release din the future, will they come in a wooden case with your own FAC number, a certificate of authenticity, and a saville type engraving?

I was hoping it'd be like the noble collections "ring" from LOTR.

anyone wearing that ring is screaming to get their arse kicked... almost as bad as a bumper sticker on a window I saw today: "Hogwarts Alumni"...

Hydrapelican wrote: well if the tracks are released in a general way then I can live with that...

Hooky should take these comments for what they are...a simple desire by his fans to have more music!

...not a denial of his right to make a living as he sees fit.

Well said. The biggest thing for me is this: stop releasing the same old tired material that everyone has had since back in the day! No disrespect to Hooky, Bernard, and Stephen, but go through your tape collections and find some truly exclusive material that nobody has ever heard.

As far as New Order releases, come through with “The Beach, Jul 29 1980“, recording. New Order’s first gig ever. A true piece of history; something that is truly exceptional. They have the reel. They also have unreleased gigs that are truly exceptional as well. They are doing nothing with these recordings.

As far as Joy Division releases, the band have all kinds of tapes in their private collections, just collecting dust. I feel Hooky should release the Middlebrough recording from 1977. That recording what give JD fans an incredible insight into the evolution of Joy Division’s sound. None of us have heard any live recordings from 1977 and 1978; that I know of! What about some rehearsal material as well?

I would be more then willing to spend a little more money on these kinds of releases; no matter how they are packaged. Ideally reissues with bonus disc’s would fit the best, and of course if we are talking about reissues, then do the studio material the right way, and stop fucking compressing the music; which destroys it!

I don’t have a problem with how Hooky makes a living, I like Hooky, so I’m not going to say anything negative about him, I just want the band and record company to give the fans what they really want. That’s my point; just do right by the fans and we will take care of the band by buying the product.

It’s sad that we(the fans) have to turn to a blog to find quality releases, and the audio released wasn’t even Lossless! I find it funny that a few fans (Recycle Blog) can completely out class the record company and show them how to release the singles! In the end, I seriously doubt their will be anymore quality New Order or Joy Division releases, with the state of the band right now! I just don’t think anymore releases will be put together; which sucks for us. Again I really feel like if the band and record company take care of the fans and give us what we want; we will take care of them in return by buying these releases………………………….

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Who'd have thought it eh?

A few choice snippets from John Harris' review of "Shadowplayers: The Rise & Fall of Factory Records" in the paper today:

"Real ideological oomph"; "driven, brilliantly idealistic people, convinced that music and its attendant culture could somehow embody a better kind of society"; "enterprise born of New Left philosophy and punk zeal"; "the cultural destruction fomented by Thatcherism"; "misfits who aimed to somehow kick down the wall separating art and everyday life".

Later there's a wry allusion to "the impossibility of squaring counter-cultural ways with the more banal stuff of profit and loss", but there's no mention of corporate sponsorship, ideologically soiling yourself in public, or - more pertinently - wilfully diluting the brand to your own fucking detriment.

Go figure.

Clayhead Liberation Faction wrote: A few choice snippets from John Harris' review of "Shadowplayers: The Rise & Fall of Factory Records" in the paper today:

"Real ideological oomph"; "driven, brilliantly idealistic people, convinced that music and its attendant culture could somehow embody a better kind of society"; "enterprise born of New Left philosophy and punk zeal"; "the cultural destruction fomented by Thatcherism"; "misfits who aimed to somehow kick down the wall separating art and everyday life".

Later there's a wry allusion to "the impossibility of squaring counter-cultural ways with the more banal stuff of profit and loss", but there's no mention of corporate sponsorship, ideologically soiling yourself in public, or - more pertinently - wilfully diluting the brand to your own fucking detriment.

Go figure.

What paper Martin? Wouldnt mind reading the full thing for a laugh.

You favourite rag, Liam:

The Gruaniad

There have been some urm 'interesting' comments on this topic 2 say the least.i think clayheads about being on the blob,discharge and nasal hair ranks as the most disgusting on this thread. Bleeuugh!

Is it really that much effort to type "to" rather than "2"?

Seriously now. This board has standards, albeit lax ones, but standards nonetheless.

Joanne Bailey wrote: There have been some urm 'interesting' comments on this topic 2 say the least.i think clayheads about being on the blob,discharge and nasal hair ranks as the most disgusting on this thread. Bleeuugh!

Do you read anything other this thread? Those comments were Championship quality by Martins standards.

to the teacher - I texted that response hence why I used 2!

Yes James I do read other threads!

Joanne Bailey wrote: There have been some urm 'interesting' comments on this topic 2 say the least.i think clayheads about being on the blob,discharge and nasal hair ranks as the most disgusting on this thread. Bleeuugh!

We're just following in NO's stead.

The Teacher wrote: A guitar fretboard made from the hacienda dancefloor?

ladies and gentlemen, we have reached a new low. :barf:

Come on then Jack, or Fac 51 The Hacienda; whats the justification for this? How is this item of any artistic value? And from your little list Jack, how many of them have sunk this low?

Was the floor made from camphor wood,per chance? Y'know,sometimes it's not the outward value.....