Waiting For The Sirens' Call

johnny wrote: I've tried my hand at this rapidshare caper, not familiar with it so this may not work but try here for http://rapidshare.com/files/424420251/Waiting_For_The_Sirens__Call__Tribute_Mix_.mp3

Thank you!!! Do I love it? Hell yeah!

the itunes version is just top notch. I never thought of it as Temptation like, might have to turn up the BPM a few notches and see what happens.

When push comes to shove, there are only three songs off the last three albums that I count as absolute top-drawer New Order: “Regret”, “Primitive Notion” and “Waiting for the siren’s call”. The first time I heard “WFTSC” I got goosebumps like I never got from any song since, well, “Regret”.

But I never got the same vibe off it that I do off “Temptation”: WFTSC's chord structure is not dissimilar, of course, but while “Temptation” is a song of giddy joy, “WFTSC” is more reflective and has a more typically ambivalent Bernard lyric. The chorus is an affirmation of existing love, but the first verse makes it clear the narrator tempted to escape; the second verse never lets on for which couple the stars won’t shine; and the closing section implies he won't stop straying.

Personally I think that the Neu!/motorik beat of the song fits like a glove. And the beautiful little motif at the end (Phil’s, I presume) tops off the song perfectly.

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The “MTV special” thread along with this one reminded me of seeing an interview on there with the group in 2005. Bernard complimented the others on producing such a fantastic backing track to what became the title song and how much pressure he felt (in a positive way) to come up with a deserving lyric and vocal melody. Hooky was talking about how great it had been recording at Real World and…everything was looking rosy. Of course, the album could have been better and they never had a hit on the scale of “Crystal” but I still don’t get how all that positivity turned to shit by the end of 2006.

A contemporary interview including short comments from the co-producers:

http://emusician.com/remixmag/artists_interviews/musicians/remix_manchester_united/

Maybe this was posted here at the time, but I never saw it.

Tony Casanova wrote: When push comes to shove, there are only three songs off the last three albums that I count as absolute top-drawer New Order: “Regret”, “Primitive Notion” and “Waiting for the siren’s call”. The first time I heard “WFTSC” I got goosebumps like I never got from any song since, well, “Regret”.

But I never got the same vibe off it that I do off “Temptation”: WFTSC's chord structure is not dissimilar, of course, but while “Temptation” is a song of giddy joy, “WFTSC” is more reflective and has a more typically ambivalent Bernard lyric. The chorus is an affirmation of existing love, but the first verse makes it clear the narrator tempted to escape; the second verse never lets on for which couple the stars won’t shine; and the closing section implies he won't stop straying.

Personally I think that the Neu!/motorik beat of the song fits like a glove. And the beautiful little motif at the end (Phil’s, I presume) tops off the song perfectly.

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The “MTV special” thread along with this one reminded me of seeing an interview on there with the group in 2005. Bernard complimented the others on producing such a fantastic backing track to what became the title song and how much pressure he felt (in a positive way) to come up with a deserving lyric and vocal melody. Hooky was talking about how great it had been recording at Real World and…everything was looking rosy. Of course, the album could have been better and they never had a hit on the scale of “Crystal” but I still don’t get how all that positivity turned to shit by the end of 2006.

A contemporary interview including short comments from the co-producers:

http://emusician.com/remixmag/artists_interviews/musicians/remix_manchester_united/

Maybe this was posted here at the time, but I never saw it.

Regarding Temptation, I've always viewed WFTSC as being the lyrical sequel to Temptation. Temptation is about being young, kiddy, adventurous, loving and losing and learning from it, it's about finding yourself. WFTSC is an older, more sober look at the aftermath of all of that.

Cheers for posting that interview! Really great read. I too wonder how everything went to shit by 2006. I really thought WFTSC was a great album, personally. Better than Republic, Get Ready, Movement, and, yes, Brotherhood, in my humble opinion. Please don't throw a beer bottle at me.

Here is a great live version of WFTSC from the Canal session NO did when the WFTSC record came out. Cracking live version, with Phil playing keyboards during the intro (something he later dropped doing). Audio-Visual sync is a little off but its a great version.

when your gone

Zachery Starkey wrote: I really thought WFTSC was a great album, personally. Better than Republic, Get Ready, Movement, and, yes, Brotherhood, in my humble opinion. Please don't throw a beer bottle at me.

I think that even those lukewarm about the WFTSC album (like me) will one day be able to put together one really satisfying album -when the remaining 7 tracks from the sessions get released. We know that the unheard tracks weren’t held back for lack of quality – they were intended to form the basis of a whole new album. From the released material I’d keep “Who’s Joe” / “WFTSC” / “Krafty” / “I Told You So” /”GIAUE” / “Turn”.

I don’t exactly despise the rest but none of them say “play me now”, and I always skip them. I don’t mind Bernard following his pop instincts but I find “Jetstream” and “Morning Night and Day” charmless while “HNWYD” is dullsville. “Dracula’s Castle” lacks hooks (small ‘h’) and “Working Overtime” almost entirely lacks the energy that garage rock feeds on (and that “Rock the Shack” had in spades).

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Speaking of which - I like to do a Get Ready redux with some of its extraneous material. I program these tracks in this order:

1 Crystal 2 60 MPH 3 Turn my way 4 Vicious Streak 5 Primitive Notion

6 Here to Stay 7 Player in the league 8 Someone Like You 9 Behind Closed Doors 10 Close Range 11 Run Wild (Steve Osbourne mix)

……and it sounds like a really strong record to me.
I like “Sabotage” and “RTS” just fine, but I would have preferred to see the latter as a B-side too. "Slow Jam" is irredeemable.

It's classic New Order, and a nice version there too!

Nice to see one or two downloaded that Tribute Mix.

For my next song re-visit and re-appreciation thread i will be talking about Krafty - its high and low points, the various remixes, the artwork and also the video.I will be giving my re-appraisal of the song, the mixes, the artwork and the video.

Re: WFTSC. Yes, it's a good song and one of their better Title Tracks (is it New Order's ONLY track that has given the parent album its name? Indeed it would appear so.)

However, I like the version performed by the [briefly] reformed Cocteau Twins better.

Simon Raymonde's bass actually out-Hooks Hooky's!

And Liz Fraser is a fantastic replacement for Bernard's tired banal vocal stylings.

Johnny,

Many many thanks for the Rapidshare link. Had heard a fair bit about the mix but always thought it might be a bit rubbish.

However, I love it. I now easily prefer it to the Planet Funk mix.

For me, WFTSC is one of the great NO singles. For me it's one of my top 5 tracks of the decade, I'd say.

Probably been done to death on here, but by the way, "Oh Vanity" by Charlatans doffs a cap to WFTSC. Also a top, top tune.

Top man.

Cheers

By 'Eck! My Neck! wrote: Re: WFTSC. Yes, it's a good song and one of their better Title Tracks (is it New Order's ONLY track that has given the parent album its name? Indeed it would appear so.)

However, I like the version performed by the [briefly] reformed Cocteau Twins better.

Simon Raymonde's bass actually out-Hooks Hooky's!

And Liz Fraser is a fantastic replacement for Bernard's tired banal vocal stylings.

huh? where can i get that? i thought Liz was done with Cocteau Twins... ?

Tarbox23 wrote:

By 'Eck! My Neck! wrote: Re: WFTSC. Yes, it's a good song and one of their better Title Tracks (is it New Order's ONLY track that has given the parent album its name? Indeed it would appear so.)

However, I like the version performed by the [briefly] reformed Cocteau Twins better.

Simon Raymonde's bass actually out-Hooks Hooky's!

And Liz Fraser is a fantastic replacement for Bernard's tired banal vocal stylings.

huh? where can i get that? i thought Liz was done with Cocteau Twins... ?

Yeah I am VERY interested in hearing that version also.

linus sulanki wrote:

Tarbox23 wrote:

By 'Eck! My Neck! wrote: Re: WFTSC. Yes, it's a good song and one of their better Title Tracks (is it New Order's ONLY track that has given the parent album its name? Indeed it would appear so.)

However, I like the version performed by the [briefly] reformed Cocteau Twins better.

Simon Raymonde's bass actually out-Hooks Hooky's!

And Liz Fraser is a fantastic replacement for Bernard's tired banal vocal stylings.

huh? where can i get that? i thought Liz was done with Cocteau Twins... ?

Yeah I am VERY interested in hearing that version also.

He's joking

Luke wrote: The way Bernard sings the song, reminds me of the way he sang World. He really uses the higher range of his voice, which is a real thread for him I think.

Very brave song. I like it a lot.

autotune

Cocteaus version of Sirens?

Good joke that. Had me fooled too. Went searching for it on Youtube and all.

Funny thing though, was listening to Pearly Dewdrops Drops the other morning on my commute, and I thought how similar the bass was to Hooky's stylings.

Cheers

Parky wrote:

Funny thing though, was listening to Pearly Dewdrops Drops the other morning on my commute, and I thought how similar the bass was to Hooky's stylings.

Cheers

Do you commute on your paddy paddy paddy paddy bicycley dewdrops drops?

johnny wrote:

Parky wrote:

Funny thing though, was listening to Pearly Dewdrops Drops the other morning on my commute, and I thought how similar the bass was to Hooky's stylings.

Cheers

Do you commute on your paddy paddy paddy paddy bicycley dewdrops drops?

Heh heh, nice one!

No, actually on my chuff chuff chuffin' chuff chuff train...

Top track. Wish I'd seen Cocteau Twins on their revival dates, was it 2 years ago now?

Cheers