My defnitive New Order album list: Best to Worst

1. Power, Corruption & Lies
2. Get Ready
3. Waiting for the Siren's Call
4. Technique
5. Republic
6. Low-Life
7. Brotherhood
8. Movement

I based this mostly on the amount of play time these have had for me personally as whole, not based on the strength of individual songs. I must admit, #'s 2-5 were very close to call and probably all are about tied to be honest.

I have to admit, I think it's pretty impressive that the 2 most recent albums are in my top 3. You don't see that too often with pop stars and it just goes to show NO were one of the bands that actually got better with age.

You can't be serious. Get Ready better than Technique, Low-Life, Brotherhood and Movement!? Weirdo.

Get Ready rocks.. I hated it at first because it was less electro, but over the years I've come to the conclusion it is one of their most solid and mature albums. Again, as I said above, I think 2-5 are really about even.

Patrick Parrish wrote: Get Ready rocks.. I hated it at first because it was less electro, but over the years I've come to the conclusion it is one of their most solid and mature albums. Again, as I said above, I think 2-5 are really about even.

Weird that you have Low-life so low, and WFTSC so high, but i do agree that Get Ready is a good piece of work, that is i reckon at the bottom end of the top 5.

I'm guessing you are a latecomer, as if you were a diehard when Lowlife or Technique came out you'd have been blown away at the time and still in love. These were the most copied styles and probably don't seem as cool to someone that picked them up years after.

Been a fan since 1988. Low-life has got some great tracks, but also has a few fillers..and I never felt the album worked that well as a whole. Again, ALL their albums are great, this is just my ranking after years of listening and reflecting on their body of work.

Patrick Parrish wrote: Been a fan since 1988. Low-life has got some great tracks, but also has a few fillers..and I never felt the album worked that well as a whole. Again, ALL their albums are great, this is just my ranking after years of listening and reflecting on their body of work.

Perhaps cos I was exposed to the live interpretation of Low-Life, and I guess Technique, far more in that period, I'm more biassed to these. I dunno. But you cannot or rather could not beat a live salvo of Subculture, Face Up and Perfect Kiss. They were at their height of their hilarious and super cocky 'we don't give a shit' pomp back then, in a live sense.

My rankings are as follows:-

1. Power, Corruption & Lies
2. Technique
3. Low-Life
4. Movement
5. Brotherhood
6. Republic
7. Waiting for the Siren's Call
8. Get Ready

...the first 5 choices are a close call. If this was football Republic, WFTSC and Get Ready would be in the Championship as they are nowhere close to the Premiership choices above them !

1. Technique
2. Low Life
3. Brotherhood
4. Power, Corruption & Lies
5. Movement
6. Waiting for the Siren's Call
7. Get Ready
8. Republic

1. Low Life
2. Power,Corruption & Lies
3. Technique
4. Brotherhood
5. Peel Sessions (Questionable,I Know)
6. Republic
7. Movement (And In Joint Last Place)
8. Waiting for the Siren's Call
9. Get Ready

I am amazed to see someone claiming that Low Life contains fillers,I think it's the perfect album,faultless in fact. As for fillers,I think the first filler track on a New Order album is Every Little Counts,on Technique it could be argued that Fine Time & Round And Round are fillers and yet they were released as singles instead of Dream Attack or Vanishing Point!

1.pc & l 2.lowlife 3.peel sessions 4.movement 5.technique 6.all the rest

Lowlife Get Ready Technique PC&L Movement Waiting for the sirens call Republic Brotherhood

I've always felt Face up was a bit fillerish...maybe that's the only one really..I do agree with you on Every Little Counts.

It's interesting to see everybody else's choices, 10 years or so ago I might have had the same list. For some reason, I just feel now that the last 2 albums were some of their best..something the band might agree with as most artists generally feel their most recent work is their best.

Technique PC&L Brotherhood Low-Life Get Ready Movement WFTSC Republic

PC&L has the best tunes on it, but Technique is consistently better as an album. Brotherhood is the most underrated NO album, I mean come on, All Day Long, Every Little Counts, BLT, AIIWIW? Low-Life, well I like Love Vigilantes and Elegia, but the rest of the album does nothing for me, and it also gets minus points because it has a rubbish edit of TPK and not its entire 9 minute majesty. Get Ready was a solid comeback album, but as for the rest, well they have their choice tracks (DNE, Denial, Turn, WFTSC, Regret, RIAD) but as albums they are certainly among their weaker stuff.

Here is mine:

1 Technique (just look at the sleeve for a kick off!) 2 PC&L 3 Low-life (Face-Up sounds like a farce and spoils an otherwise superb album) 4 Brotherhood 5 Movement (Recorded later in their career it would have been better) 6 Republic (marred by lack of bass and band unity) 7 Get Ready 8 WFTSC

For me its Movement at number one, and then , well,they just went downhill.

A failed reminder of a broken story.

79 order wrote: For me its Movement at number one, and then , well,they just went downhill.

A failed reminder of a broken story.

and their emotions one day will vanish...

Technique Get Ready WFTSC Low-Life Republic Brotherhood Movement PC&L

sure to upset a few people, though for me theres not alot between any of the albums.

J D wrote: Technique PC&L Brotherhood Low-Life Get Ready Movement WFTSC Republic

PC&L has the best tunes on it, but Technique is consistently better as an album. Brotherhood is the most underrated NO album, I mean come on, All Day Long, Every Little Counts, BLT, AIIWIW? Low-Life, well I like Love Vigilantes and Elegia, but the rest of the album does nothing for me, and it also gets minus points because it has a rubbish edit of TPK and not its entire 9 minute majesty. Get Ready was a solid comeback album, but as for the rest, well they have their choice tracks (DNE, Denial, Turn, WFTSC, Regret, RIAD) but as albums they are certainly among their weaker stuff.

Remember that when Low Life was released it was still primarily Vinyl and Tape.The 9 minute version of TPK wouldn't fit on one side of an LP without drastically reducing the amount of other tracks on there.

I can't really say that I have a 'favourite'/best LP. NO are so 'entwined' in my life that every LP reminds me of a different period. From being 'blown away' by Movement as a 10 year old. Going through my teenage years with PCL, Low Life and Brotherhood and all that entails. Technique reminds me of the madness of the 'Rave' scene, Republic the 'comedown' from all that. Get Ready 'The Revival' and WFTSC realising I am 'getting on' and people who are responsible for my NO 'fixation' no longer being there.

Technique Low-Life Power, Corruption & Lies Brotherhood Waiting For the Sirens' Call Get Ready Republic Movement

Can't really call it between each pair:

1 Low-Life / Technique

2 PCL / Brotherhood

3 Movement / Republic

4 Get Ready / WFTSC

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I think PCL is a considerably "greater achievement" than Brotherhood but a lot of days Brotherhood just begs me to play it - and I've always liked side 2, which a lot of people up to and including Hooky have seen fit to take a dump on over the years.

I couldn't possibly say which I prefer out of Movement and Republic, they're too different. Both are just what I need sometimes.

WFTSC contains on the other hand just too many songs that don't quite hit the target (for me). Still love the title track and "Turn" however, both are probably better than any single song on Get Ready.

On the whole though I probably prefer Get Ready, but this [as I've suggested before] would have been so much better than the actual album:

1 crystal 2 60 MPH 3 turn my way 4 vicious streak 5 primitive notion 6 player in the league 7 here to stay 8 someone like you 9 behind closed doors
10 close range 11 run wild

For what it's worth...

1. Technique
2. Power, Corruption & Lies
3. Low-Life
4. Brotherhood
5. Get Ready
6. Movement
7. Waiting For The Sirens Call
8. Republic

Though, it's virtually imposible for me to choose between my top 4 most of the time. I think that Brotherhood is a seriously underrated album. For me the last 4 have 2 or 3 amazing tracks and a whole lot of filler.

REPUBLIC BROTHERHOOD SUBSTANCE (Compilation shmompilation!) TECHNIQUE GET READY LOW-LIFE WFTSC MOVEMENT P,C & L

the mighty boosh wrote:

1. Technique
2. Power, Corruption & Lies
3. Low-Life
4. Brotherhood
5. Get Ready
6. Movement
7. Waiting For The Sirens Call
8. Republic

Swap Movement with Get Ready and there's my list.

Power Corruption and Lies Low Life Brotherhood Technique Waiting for the Siren's Call Get Ready Republic (difficult because Regret is one of their best songs) Movement

And there you have it. At least for me.

1. Technique
2. Low Life
3. Power Corruption & Lies
4. Movement
5. Waiting For The Sirens Call
6. Brotherhood
7. Republic
8. Get Ready

1. PC&L
2. Technique
3. Lowlife
4. Brotherhood
5. Get Ready
6. WFTSC
7. Republic
8. Movement.

The top are probaly in my top 10 list of all time. 4-6 are pretty interchangeable. As are 7 and 8. Really dislike side B of Repbulic whereas movement is just average all the way through.

By giving the top 3 albums points ranging from 3 to 1 in reverse order the result so far is 1 Technique 27 2 PCL - 25 3 Low Life - 20.

1: Low life 2: Technique 3: PC&L 4: Movement 5: Brotherhood 6: Get ready 7: WFTSC 8: Republic

1: Low life 2: Technique 3: PC&L 4: Republic 5: Movement 6: Get ready 7: Brotherhood 8: WFTSC

Technique PCL Low-Life (SEVERE drop in quality on the second side) Get Ready Sirens Brotherhood (only BLT) Republic (zzzz) Movement (only Dreams Never End) Best 'solo' LP: Electronic Worst 'solo' LP: One True Passion There you go, only my opinion. And yeah, I think Face Up is poo.

PHD wrote:

1. Technique
2. Low Life
3. Power Corruption & Lies
4. Movement
5. Waiting For The Sirens Call
6. Brotherhood
7. Republic
8. Get Ready

That looks like my list!

Marc wrote:

the mighty boosh wrote:

1. Technique
2. Power, Corruption & Lies
3. Low-Life
4. Brotherhood
5. Get Ready
6. Movement
7. Waiting For The Sirens Call
8. Republic

Swap Movement with Get Ready and there's my list.

I would not disagree... I do need to be in the mood for Movement though...

1. Technique 2. Low-life 3. GET READY 4. Republic. 5. WFTSC 6. PCL 7. Brotherhood 8. MOVEMENT

5, 6 & 7 I all kinda like the same, some great tracks on all 3, but some forgettable ones too in my opinion

Like others, I find MOVEMENT average or "tentative" from start to finish and is probably my most rarely played NewOrder album.

Shocked to see so many people putting GET READY near the bottom, or below WFTSC... Crystal beats anything off WFTSC, and is fairly consistent all the way through like Technique. 60mph, Turn My Way, Vicious Streak, Primitive Notion, SOMEONELIKEYOU, Close Range, Run Wild... all strong songs!

REPUBLIC, the album people on here love to hate.. but I've always liked it. Might be slightly biased as it was the first NewOrder stuff I became aware of, and I love a lot of stuff from the early-mid 90s. But Regret... Price Of Love... Ruined In A Day... Everyoneverywhere... Special... Avalanche... all fantastic tracks I think! I can even tolerate Chemical.

I put Brotherhood near the bottom, because I always get the feeling the band didn't quite have enough material for a full album [it still is their shortest album] so dumped every little counts on there, which I really cannot listen to.. it's cringeworthy! Angel Dust I'm not too fond of, and Paradise sounds limp compared to the excellent Robert Racic remix. "Wierdo" is fantastic though, and sounds like the elder sibling of "All The Way" on Technique.

1. Brotherhood

I put Brotherhood near the bottom, because I always get the feeling the band didn't quite have enough material for a full album [it still is their shortest album] so dumped every little counts on there, which I really cannot listen to.. it's cringeworthy!

What's with all the hate for ELC? I think it's a top tune, certainly better than the dated Face Up (the intro, which is great, aside), or even worse State of the Nation and Shellshock.

Nothing wrong with ELC as a song, but more importantly, its inclusion highlights what used to make the band special: their quirky sense of humour and individualistic approach. After Technique it would all be very corporate, but back then they had their own personality and things like ELC, the inner-groove-messages and the final couplet of Your silent Face are prime examples I think. And I still think Face Up is poo.

1. Technique
2. PC&L
3. Low-life
4. Brotherhood
5. WFTSC
6. Get Ready
7. Republic
8. Movement

P,C & L. at the top, but all 5 Factory albums on the upper tier. At this point no reason to over analyze. 2nd to 5th album all have sort of a "piss take" or an experiment so on them, but all well in the New Order way of doing things.

The last 3 albums on the lower tier. Republic doesn't seem like a New Order album after "Regret" and gets very bland and even unlikeable in the middle. The last two have some very questionable choices with production and some songs, which I won't even listen to some songs.

PC&L - Honest, True, Wonderful. Only album not to sound compromised Technique - End of an era, perfect dance/rock hybrid Low-Life - Overated, Individually tracks work well, but not together. Brotherhood - Trying to keep 'both fans' happy, but falls short. Movement - Interesting period piece. Republic - Compromise + Stephen Hague + London = average product WFTSC - Better than expected, still some fire left. Get Ready - Trite production, more filler than an old Ford Cortina.

The 'London' albums take the last three places as the band just weren't the same, despite the odd gem now and again. Why they started playing essentially traditional rock and roll with conventional lyrics is beyond me, as the reason why many people got into the group was because they were exactly the opposite!!!

Anybody who puts Repubic, Wet Freddy and Waiting For Our Zimmer Frames above the GODLIKE trinity of prime era NO that is Technique, Low Life and Brotherhood must surely be several slices of cheese short of a ploughmans.

And that is official.

I think Substance is the best even though it's not a proper album. Never seen the likes of it before or since. The monstrously long cassette of B sides was never out of my car radio back in the day.

Blue 5 wrote: I think Substance is the best even though it's not a proper album. Never seen the likes of it before or since. The monstrously long cassette of B sides was never out of my car radio back in the day.

Agreed, no doubt the album that turned a lot of people onto NO for the first time.

My few-cheese-slices-short list - based on how often I actually listen to them these days:

Technique Republic Brotherhood Get Ready PCL Movement Low-Life WFTSC

The greatness-in-context list:

PCL Low-Life Technique Get Ready Brotherhood Republic Movement WFTSC

I'd also stand the first Electronic album alongside any of them :)

Michael Monkhouse wrote:

Worst 'solo' LP: One True Passion

It's not that bad, it's better than Bad Lieutenant & Freebass

komakino wrote: Low-Life - Overated, Individually tracks work well, but not together. [Get Ready - Trite production, more filler than an old Ford Cortina.

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Now that's interesting. You see I agree Low-Life is criminally over-rated, but I reckon the opposite: it works as a whole, but the individual tracks are hit'n'miss. The first side's class, but the second is (in order): turgid - average - about wanking for cryin' out loud - downright unlistenable. As for Get Ready I think it's surprisingly strong. By that time I'd lost my passion and bought it more out of curiosity than anything else, but (again) the first half's damn fine. Crystal's their last great single, Turn My way and Vicious Streak are perfect melancholia and Primitive Notion is equal to Sunrise. Shame about 60 mph. And most of the second half.

Ger Boy wrote:

Michael Monkhouse wrote:

Worst 'solo' LP: One True Passion

It's not that bad, it's better than Bad Lieutenant & Freebass

Well again, each to his own. (Which means HUH?) For me OTP is the worst thing ever to come out of the NO stable: bombastic, directionless, throwaway. More an excuse for Hooky to indulge in touring and dodgy S'n'M imagery than a disc in its own right. And while I may be in the minority, I think the Freebass album is a triumph - far more enjoyable than both OTP and Monaco's second effort... And BL is for me Bernard's most consistent long-player since 'Electronic' became the theme tune to my A-Levels! But each, as I say, to his own.

Here we go again.....seeing as you're asking....

1. Tourniquet =2) Curry Powder and Flies =2) Slow Wife
2. Brothelwood
3. Pavement
4. Wet Freddy
5. Waiting For Our Zimmer Frames
6. Repubic

I'm not including the compilations, remixes and box sets, otherwise it would get very boring.....

1/ Technique

2/ PC&L 3/ Lowlife 4/ Brotherhood 5/ Get Ready 6/ WFTSC 7/ Movement 8/ Republic

1. Technique
2. Brotherhood
3. Power, Corruption & Lies
4. Low-Life
5. WTFSC
6. Get Ready
7. Republic
8. Movement

1)Technique 2)Low-Life 3)Brotherhood 4)Power, Corruption & Lies 5)Movement 6)Get Ready 7)Waiting for Siren's Call 8)Republic

This has changed massively over the last few years...

1. PCL

2. Technique

3. Low Life

4. Republic

5. Brotherhood

6. Movement

7. WFTSC

8. Get Ready

Snorri xxx

Here I'll contribute although I've become a threadkiller recently.

1. PCL
2. Low-life
3. Brotherhood
4. Get Ready
5. Movement
6. Technique
7. Sirens
8. Republic

Technique has aged really badly as it used to be my favorite a while ago, although the songs are class the synths sound really dated nowadays. Also for some reason I rate GR highly, probably happy reunion memories.