Will You Buy Total?

i thought the main albums were done reasonably well on the new order reissues, it was just the bonus discs that were an embarrassment.

The fixed bonus discs are great, if you can identify them to buy in the first place.

Milkshock wrote:

leather_girl wrote:

Milkshock wrote: bought it today and i have to say its a very good remastering job. none of this loudness war bullshit that plagued so many release in the previous decade.

one thing i did notice was that in the credits for each song has a different order when telling you who wrote each song. so for example in the credits gillians name comes first for regret, while for BLT and true faith its hooky's.

does this indicate who the principal songwriter was in any given composition?

Possibly (that's the case in some music I listen to)...can anybody give a definite answer?

ive never seen a new order song with credits in this way before.

ermmm... don't want to piss on the parade but could that just be alphabetical as in Gilbert, Hook, Morris, Sumner?

Burt Burterson wrote:

Milkshock wrote:

leather_girl wrote:

Milkshock wrote: bought it today and i have to say its a very good remastering job. none of this loudness war bullshit that plagued so many release in the previous decade.

one thing i did notice was that in the credits for each song has a different order when telling you who wrote each song. so for example in the credits gillians name comes first for regret, while for BLT and true faith its hooky's.

does this indicate who the principal songwriter was in any given composition?

Possibly (that's the case in some music I listen to)...can anybody give a definite answer?

ive never seen a new order song with credits in this way before.

ermmm... don't want to piss on the parade but could that just be alphabetical as in Gilbert, Hook, Morris, Sumner?

the order varies from song to song so on regret its gilbert, hook, morris, sumner, while on true faith its hook, morris, sumner, gilbert

I've just tried to buy Hellbent via Amazon but I cant due to geographical/copyright issues, now could someone tell me whether I'll be able to buy the sole track at all, I wouldn't like to go through the fuss of installing iTunes just not to be able to buy it? Actually I'm not too keen on iTunes at all, is there an alternative online store selling to non-EU customers?

Milkshock wrote:

Burt Burterson wrote:

Milkshock wrote:

leather_girl wrote:

Milkshock wrote: bought it today and i have to say its a very good remastering job. none of this loudness war bullshit that plagued so many release in the previous decade.

one thing i did notice was that in the credits for each song has a different order when telling you who wrote each song. so for example in the credits gillians name comes first for regret, while for BLT and true faith its hooky's.

does this indicate who the principal songwriter was in any given composition?

Possibly (that's the case in some music I listen to)...can anybody give a definite answer?

ive never seen a new order song with credits in this way before.

ermmm... don't want to piss on the parade but could that just be alphabetical as in Gilbert, Hook, Morris, Sumner?

the order varies from song to song so on regret its gilbert, hook, morris, sumner, while on true faith its hook, morris, sumner, gilbert

I imagine the order is meaningless. I mean, as if they could possibly agree on "who wrote the most" of any given track this late in the day: (a) they can't fucking remember anyway and (b) even if they could they'd just argue about it like the fucking useless mard arses they are (and always have been).

probably it has no meaning but still the (seemingly) random order of credits is puzzling.

on another note how strange it is that new order releases have been responsible for some of the most damning examples of compression - Get Ready, WFTSC, Singles - and yet Total is the most perfect re-master I have ever heard outside of some outrageously expensive Japanese SACD's of Stevie Wonder and Rolling Stones albums.

I think the more upbeat tracks like True Faith and WIM benefit the most but honestly the whole release is a shining example of how things should be done.

Julijana Zitnjak wrote: I've just tried to buy Hellbent via Amazon but I cant due to geographical/copyright issues, now could someone tell me whether I'll be able to buy the sole track at all, I wouldn't like to go through the fuss of installing iTunes just not to be able to buy it? Actually I'm not too keen on iTunes at all, is there an alternative online store selling to non-EU customers?

http://planetill.com/2011/05/new-order-hellbent/

Thanks mate , I've heard the stream, it s a bit of a grower now, however I still don't know how to buy the song! The curse of living in a neglectable market I guess (but we did have Control on national telly twice).

These comments about Total SQ have me curious about the mastering credit. Do the liner notes say who/where these were done?

JeffMo wrote: These comments about Total SQ have me curious about the mastering credit. Do the liner notes say who/where these were done?

Frank Arkwright at Fluid Mastering, Project Managed by Gary Lancaster.

http://www.fluidmastering.com/about-mastering.htm#Loudness

I will

thanks for the mastering info Milkshock - used a gift card from Father's Day to purchase Total. I wouldn't spend $60 like another person did here, but for $11 credit it seemed like a good cd to have for the summer road trips.

I bought it for the car. I could burn a CDR of tracks I like but I can't be arsed.

Reading all the comments on sound quality surprises me - ok it's not "louded" to death but I thought Perfect Kiss was too tinny and I'd swear there was distortion in the low end during True Faith at some point when I listened to it yesterday. And Ceremony and Temptation original versions are poorly recorded anyway so for a commercial, nice, professional-sounding best-of they should have used the Substance versions IMO, perhaps used the edited Temptation from 24 Hour Party People OST.

Hellbent's pretty good - anyone else wonder when listening to it if the vocals were added much later... in other words an instrumental WFTSC out-take with vocals added recently? Just a thought. Good track though, nice closer to the album.