Bernard Sumner On The Wright Stuff [UK TV] Tuesday 14 June

Bernard Sumner will be appearing alongside Hayley Tamaddon and Steve Furst on the topical debate show "The Wright Stuff"

For those who don't know, The Wright Stuff is a topical/political discussion show in the UK hosted by Matthew Wright. Each show has a panel of special guests who voice their opinions and there are also phone-ins from viewers.

Past topics include "Has Hamza [also known as Hooky] changed Islam?" and "Save Our Degrees - Give Fewer Uni Places".

UK Channel 5, tomorrow [Tuesday 14 June] 9:15 AM - 11:05 AM.

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great, i think he's doing Loose Women on Weds and Paul O'Grady on Friday

clive mendonca wrote: great, i think he's doing Loose Women on Weds and Paul O'Grady on Friday

You are joking I hope.

If that's right then I'm afraid New Order are the new Duran Duran.

Goodness knows what Burt will be making of that!

"Doing loose women" sounds dirty.

He'll be on cash in the attic if he's not careful.

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Main topic - Should the word "retarded" be banned?

Empress Touch wrote: If that's right then I'm afraid New Order are the new Duran Duran.

Goodness knows what Burt will be making of that!

Duran Duran were alright. It's Simple Minds, Aha and Depeche Mode that are utter cack.

everyoneverywhere wrote: Updated link

Main topic - Should the word "retarded" be banned?

Barney will struggle with that topic.

Wonder if they've got him in specifically because of that topic, being as he was affected by disability in his family, albeit physical, as far as I know.

I'd rather have him talk about loose women .

First topic that they are discussing is 'assisted suicide'...... Close. They match their guests very well.

blunt laser wrote: He'll be on cash in the attic if he's not careful.

And cue the obligatory Hooky jokes round about now.

did anyone watch this?

Sky +'st it! Will have a watch later.
You should be able to stream it from the Channel 5 website tomorrow though. (Yesterday's show is up today)

I watched it, it was quite good. They had a bit about Retro music and do people let themselves go at 41?

Wasn't it roughly at the time of turning 41 that Barney started piling on the weight?

It was quite surreal to watch. Bernard and daytime TV. Who would have thought.

Matthew Wright: "So have New Order split up then?" Barney: "One member decided to leave"

Wonder what Hooky's got to say to that?

Also the bit where Barney said about record companies feeling the need to constantly release compilations because they cost nothing to record and are cheap to promote- directed at Rhino/Warners maybe?

So nothing on being retarded nor loose women :\ohwell: .

It's available on Virgin On Demand. Just watching now..

johnny wrote: It's available on Virgin On Demand. Just watching now..

ooh goody. now i'm not sad that i went to work today

For those who missed it:

Barney on Daytime TV [Who would have thought....]

Liked the bit where he was on about Sirens outtakes. Too many tacks for one EP and not enough for album. So instead going to release another 6 xc best of with one of the unheard tracks on each one!

The Shadow wrote: Liked the bit where he was on about Sirens outtakes. Too many tacks for one EP and not enough for album. So instead going to release another 6 xc best of with one of the unheard tracks on each one!

yeah it makes no sense. Take That re-release Progress with 8 extra tracks after 8 months and NO release 1 extra track every 6 years!!

so in 2017 we should get TOTAL - From Joy Division to Electronic - extra track "Brothers & Sisters"

2023 TOTAL - from Joy Division to Electronic via Revenge and The Other Two - extra track "Hey You What You Gonna Do?"

2029 Total - From New Order to Bad Lieutant by passing Joy Division - extra track "Sugarcane"

2034 Total - From Joy Division to Bad Lieutenant - extra track "Hey Bad Girl Where Are You Gonna Go?"

etc

amurr586 wrote:

The Shadow wrote: Liked the bit where he was on about Sirens outtakes. Too many tacks for one EP and not enough for album. So instead going to release another 6 xc best of with one of the unheard tracks on each one!

He's probably not joking knowing their record label.

The best way to get the Sirens outtakes out in full is to reissue "Waiting For The Sirens' Call" in as a Deluxe 2xCD or 2xCD+DVD edition. Seriously surprised the band or label have apparently not come to that conclusion themselves. As such a reissue would be 70% old material it's surely not much more expensive to do than a Best Of?

Disc 1 would be the original album remastered by Steve and Frank Arkwright in the same manner as 'Total' replacing the ridiculously brickwalled version we got in 2005 at the height of the loudness wars.

Disc 2 would be the remaining outtakes plus 'Hellbent' completed to the band's satisfaction and they could use a mixture of the era's best remixes (plus the unreleased Tribute Mix of WFTSC & Jetstream "Bunker Mix") and live renditions as an appendix. Again all mastered to the same standard as 'Total'.

Finally, add a DVD to the set as per the recent Suede reissues. Include all the promotional videos made for the album including the 'Turn' ones Michael Shamberg created. Pad out the rest of the disc with choice live performances (Hyde Park was filmed) and perhaps a hidden "easter egg" section with the US Guilt remixes - they did win a Grammy for them after all.

Flog the 3 disc re-release for £15.99-16.99 in the shops or £25 online including a free T shirt and most fans would gladly dip their hands in their pockets for it no question.

Why not?

If this was a real product I would buy it.

The best way to get the Sirens outtakes out in full is to reissue "Waiting For The Sirens' Call" in as a Deluxe 2xCD or 2xCD+DVD edition. Seriously surprised the band or label have apparently not come to that conclusion themselves. As such a reissue would be 70% old material it's surely not much more expensive to do than a Best Of?

Disc 1 would be the original album remastered by Steve and Frank Arkwright in the same manner as 'Total' replacing the ridiculously brickwalled version we got in 2005 at the height of the loudness wars.

Disc 2 would be the remaining outtakes plus 'Hellbent' completed to the band's satisfaction and they could use a mixture of the era's best remixes (plus the unreleased Tribute Mix of WFTSC & Jetstream "Bunker Mix") and live renditions as an appendix. Again all mastered to the same standard as 'Total'.

Finally, add a DVD to the set as per the recent Suede reissues. Include all the promotional videos made for the album including the Michael Shamberg 'Turn' ones. Pad out the rest of the disc with choice live performances (Hyde Park was filmed) and perhaps a hidden "easter egg" section with the US Guilt remixes - they did win a Grammy for them after all.

Flog the 3 disc re-release for £15.99-16.99 in the shops or £25 online including a free T shirt and most fans would gladly dip their hands in their pockets for it no question.

Why not?

...and if they did it, you'd all still find something to moan about.

They should continue with the Collector's Editions.

Republic needs to be remastered (put the vinyl only mixes 93-95 on the second disc), Get Ready has lots of cool additional tracks for CD2 and WFTSC should just be released as mentioned.

amurr586 wrote:

The Shadow wrote: Liked the bit where he was on about Sirens outtakes. Too many tacks for one EP and not enough for album. So instead going to release another 6 xc best of with one of the unheard tracks on each one!

He's probably not joking knowing their record label.

The best way to get the Sirens outtakes out in full is to reissue "Waiting For The Sirens' Call" as a Deluxe 2xCD or 2xCD+DVD edition. Seriously surprised the band or label have apparently not come to that conclusion themselves. As such a reissue would be 70% old material it's surely not much more expensive to do than a Best Of?

Disc 1 would be the original album remastered by Steve and Frank Arkwright in the same manner as 'Total' replacing the ridiculously brickwalled version we got in 2005 at the height of the loudness wars.

Disc 2 would be the remaining outtakes including 'Hellbent' completed to the band's satisfaction and they could use a mixture of the era's best remixes (plus the unreleased Tribute Mix of WFTSC & Jetstream "Bunker Mix") or live recordings as an appendix. Again all mastered to the same standard as 'Total'.

Finally, add a DVD to the set as per the recent Suede reissues. Include all the promotional videos made for the album including the Michael Shamberg 'Turn' ones. Pad out the rest of the disc with choice live performances (Hyde Park was filmed) and perhaps a hidden "easter egg" section with the US Guilt remixes - they did win a Grammy for them after all.

Flog the 3 disc re-release for £15.99-16.99 in the shops or £25 online including a free T shirt and most fans would gladly dip their hands in their pockets for it no question. Job done, a few more sales chalked up in WFSTC's name to justify that whopping £600k recording bill, outtakes released and fans generally satisfied with a carefully thought out product.

Why not?

Best post Ive heard all year. I agree 100%. And no moaning.

I agree that's the best way to do it, I'd buy it in an instant. I guess though the record label think they'll be able to milk it longer by including one track per each new release. Whilst I guess it was Bernard joking, I can seriously see them doing that.

Yup I'd buy that one too

almansoglasnost wrote: I can't watch the stream in my country. if anyone could upload it elsewhere I'd appreciate it

I can't view it either, please help! :(

I like the idea a lot of WTFSC 2xCD and 2xCD + DVD versions, another idea could be along the lines of what The Beatles did, release Waiting For The Sirens call, but call it something else slightly different; invert the cover or something, and put the 7 out-takes on, a few alternative versions of the album tracks and sell it for the price of a normal album as an alternative version of WTFSC.

Waiting For The Sirens' Call (Redux)

A 2CD edition with those tracks plus B-sides.

What really stands in the way of this is the fact that some of the tracks are unfinished. How they could be 'finished' is probably something of an obstacle.

johnny james wrote: Waiting For The Sirens' Call (Redux)

A 2CD edition with those tracks plus B-sides.

What really stands in the way of this is the fact that some of the tracks are unfinished. How they could be 'finished' is probably something of an obstacle.

That's how the Beatles worked in their last days: each member was recording his solo parts on his own. I know that's how 'I Me Mine' was recorded in January 1970.

"Still Waiting For The Sirens' Call"?

They could add a lock of Barney's hair to each collectors set and also an empty pernod bottle from 84.

amurr586 wrote: The best way to get the Sirens outtakes out in full is to reissue "Waiting For The Sirens' Call" as a Deluxe 2xCD or 2xCD+DVD edition. Seriously surprised the band or label have apparently not come to that conclusion themselves.

Oh I'm sure they have but its all about timing. Timing as in how many times can we flog Compilations which drip-feed the songs before releasing them again anyway in your Deluxe 2XCD edition.

In a nice world a Deluxe edition would be out round about now, as would the other London albums but sadly we dont live in that world. I like literally dozens of defunct bands (not funk bands) and they all have a few tracks in the archives which only surface on Cash-In Compilations.

I do think, however, that iTunes Is Our Friend in all this because it does gives you the option we didnt have when I were a lad to cherry pick what you want.

Has anyone posted this yet

link to the Wright Stuff

It's a bit "we are weird"

Oh yes they have. But it gave me the chance to trot out the "we are weird" line for Roy again.

Oh and the "more about Bernard Sumner" link brings you here to NOOL.

Of course I can't watch it but was Sir Terry Prachett mentioned in connection with the assisted suicide the one of the Discworld fame? Cos I'm a fan.

Johnny Giles wrote: Ally's idea for these unreleased tracks is the best I've heard yet. Recognise the challenges in getting them all to approve a final mix but they've achieved that with Hellbent so there's hope. Or maybe that was the closest of all the remaining tracks to a finished article before their relationship went mamorys north.

Interesting suggestions on how to deliver it too. There's always different angles on re-marketing the back catlogue as +- showed - a great concept, name, package and launch (forget the distribution fuck up, irritating but boring).

Total is their first release I'm swerving. Just a step too far. The inclusion of a new track is a sneaky and cuntish promotional tool. The first time a release has diminished their standing in my eyes. After this and Hooky's embarrassing ongoing 'business interests' WFTSC Part II offers a real opportunity to inject some integrity back into the brand.