Gone to the dogs.

Is it just me or has this place gone to the dogs?? It's just a pale shadow of what it used to be. Dullsvilleonline, that should be the new name!!

I'll get back to you on that. Maybe like Thursday or Friday.

I blame you and Huntsman. How many messages have you added to your count these last three months? As for Rocket, pah! he's below ten an hour at the minute

Originally posted by Hank Wiseass©
I'll get back to you on that. Maybe like Thursday or Friday. I blame you and Huntsman. How many messages have you added to your count these last three months? As for Rocket, pah! he's below ten an hour at the minute

There's only one man to blame for this Hank and it's not me or the Fruitcake. Where did the banter go?? Every time I look in it's more boring than the last time. The halcyon days for this site are gone, and I fear they'll never return, which is a real shame and no mistake!

agreed muffster. only even look at the news site occasionally these days

agreed.

the general standard of threads has gone down creating less incentive to post, many original members have been from what i've heard often reluctantly drawn into long pitched 'thread battles' of which tends to more often than not end in spite or ill feeling. I do my best not to get involved in the board 'politics' but things have become somewhat subdued lately.

Tis a shame, but its ultimately a group members effort to pick things up again :)

Originally posted by Al Jarvis Downturn in New Order activity doesn't help.Throughput it still ten times what it was on Temptation, eighteen months back.Had a look-see at alt.music.new-order at the weekend and was shocked to see how much that little forum had dried up of late..

Lack of band activity doesn't help Al, that's true. It has to be said though that the core of this site, say eight months back when activity was at it's height, spent more time bantering 'bout nothing in particular than we did discussing the reason we were attracted here in the first place. This was the best fansite on the web, one ego destroyed that.

I'm a whimsical Piscean, I just wish the good old days could come back. I've met some wonderful people through this website, some of whom i'll remain friends with for the rest of my days. I'm sure that applies to many people here and I suppose we should be grateful for that.

Originally posted by Al Jarvis Downturn in New Order activity doesn't help.Throughput it still ten times what it was on Temptation, eighteen months back.Had a look-see at alt.music.new-order at the weekend and was shocked to see how much that little forum had dried up of late.. PS. Sebsy, I've got a ton on us to do you by 2 (or more) goals tonight. 6/4. Couldn't argue with that. If we can't do you after your recent run of form then we've got nae hope.

Don't want to be drawn into this, but think you've got a pretty good deal there mate. And you're right if you do lose to us you have no hope. I'm going up actually - leaving in about an hour - how about yourself?

Without fresh news,reviews and band gossip things can go a bit slack, but lets be fair though, we have had more band activity in the last year than since this site launched!!

A new album, single releases, get ready dates, countless festivals and plenty of tv appearances - even a film!!

You have to look back to Republic to draw comparisons with that level of NO activity.

It would be hard to deny that the supposed new 'Werewolf' section in the main menus wouldn't have introduced a surge in online activity.*

Alas this never occurred, despite numerous promises made (mainly in my own mind).

*Note: Suggested frequency of postal activity affected by current lunar activity.

Originally posted by General Muffy (NOOL Militant Wing) Is it just me or has this place gone to the dogs?? It's just a pale shadow of what it used to be. Dullsvilleonline, that should be the new name!!

Ah, General Muffmeister. Have you come up for air? Did ye send her home walkin' like John Wayne?!!?

I've only ever passed through Luton, thankfully....Meeting up with my long lost brother who lives oop north for a few jars before the game - reckon I'll need it the way we've been playing. Pretty sure it'll be an entertaining game if nothing else. Just about to leave - any excuse for a half day - so I'll keep my eyes peeled for you...

Originally posted by Grahame Ferguson > Originally posted by General Muffy (NOOL Militant Wing)> Is it just me or has this place gone to the dogs?? It's just a pale shadow of what it used to be. Dullsvilleonline, that should be the new name!!> >

Ah, General Muffmeister. Have you come up for air? Did ye send her home walkin' like John Wayne?!!?

Yes, and she went home with a tear in her eye too after her 'length of commitment' issues weren't resolved to her liking. She'll be back though!

Originally posted by Huntsman It would be hard to deny that the supposed new 'Werewolf' section in the main menus wouldn't have introduced a surge in online activity.*Alas this never occurred, despite numerous promises made (mainly in my own mind).*Note: Suggested frequency of postal activity affected by current lunar activity.

I wish I had even the remotest idea what you're on about me ol' fruit, but that's the way, aha aha, I like it, aha aha!

Bring back the old days, my spirit needs raising!

Good day to you Mr Muffy

Been a long time chap - hope you're keeping well hinny x :D

Originally posted by Kez-bah Good day to you Mr Muffy Been a long time chap - hope you're keeping well hinny x :D

......and a good day to you too, oh lovely lass.

I'm keepin' well as usual, just havin' a bit of a 'moment' today lamenting how far down the hole this place has slipped.

How's you Kez?? Are his kisses still sending pulses of delight you know where? (Olivia told me);)

After all the goings on of a few months back - both on & offline, things were never going to be the same again and it is with some sadness that I have to say that I don't ever think they will be. Alot of what happened was unecessary and tho' the main issues were resolved, the fact remains that certain people were prevented from airing their personal views and certain others resorted to guerilla tactics blah blah blah...

It IS still alot of fun when we get together tho and I don't think you can deny that.

Originally posted by FourFortyFive After all the goings on of a few months back - both on & offline, things were never going to be the same again and it is with some sadness that I have to say that I don't ever think they will be. Alot of what happened was unecessary and tho' the main issues were resolved, the fact remains that certain people were prevented from airing their personal views and certain others resorted to guerilla tactics blah blah blah...It IS still alot of fun when we get together tho and I don't think you can deny that.

How you doin' stranger?

That's the saving grace Jonathan, that a core of us have made contact and forged friendships that will last a very long time, and yes it is fantastic when we all get together. What've you been up to these last couple o' months? If you fancy a beer and a chew at the bull gi'es a bell.

in the grand sceme of things, everything that happened in the past was so meaningless. sure, i was horrified by the actions of some but in order for this to be a vibrant community, we all have to add our comments to meaningful threads (like WSR 31 etc..) and not to threads about how much it sucks to post here....notice this thread has a lot more than the recent NewOrder themed posts....stop bitching about how bad things are and start to change if that is truly what you want....we could all talk shit about specific peeps but if you want a fun, active forum, you have to contribute, fun, active posts.

i spend too much time here like most of the forum members but in relationship to what's really important to my life, this forum is just below the dirt i walk on the the polluted air I breath....taken for granted and even resented on occaisions i.e. not that important at all....it's like a really shitty day in Junior High with everyone holding grudges and being pissed off for stupid reasons.....the only way to return to normal is to forgive and FORGET and ACT NORMAL.

-----this soap box has been generously loaned by the UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT---

Originally posted by General Muffy (NOOL Militant Wing) > Originally posted by Kez-bah> Good day to you Mr Muffy > > Been a long time chap - hope you're keeping well hinny x :D

......and a good day to you too, oh lovely lass.

I'm keepin' well as usual, just havin' a bit of a 'moment' today lamenting how far down the hole this place has slipped.

How's you Kez?? Are his kisses still sending pulses of delight you know where? (Olivia told me);)

*cough* :o That Liv has a loose tongue! I'm going to be having words with her! Well, yes, everything is still going well on that front....

And you're right about this place being on the decline...doesn't keep me half as amused as once upon a time. Can't forget though this site's been responsible for me meeting some f***ing fantastic peeps and having some of the best times ever :)

Hehe! has Liv called you about that Glasto theatre thing yet Kez??

Originally posted by Biznotic Love Trapazoid in the grand sceme of things, everything that happened in the past was so meaningless. sure, i was horrified by the actions of some but in order for this to be a vibrant community, we all have to add our comments to meaningful threads (like WSR 31 etc..) and not to threads about how much it sucks to post here....notice this thread has a lot more than the recent NewOrder themed posts....stop bitching about how bad things are and start to change if that is truly what you want....we could all talk shit about specific peeps but if you want a fun, active forum, you have to contribute, fun, active posts. i spend too much time here like most of the forum members but in relationship to what's really important to my life, this forum is just below the dirt i walk on the the polluted air I breath....taken for granted and even resented on occaisions i.e. not that important at all....it's like a really shitty day in Junior High with everyone holding grudges and being pissed off for stupid reasons.....the only way to return to normal is to forgive and FORGET and ACT NORMAL.-----this soap box has been generously loaned by the UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT---

Very eloquently put Brian but somewhat contradictory to the gist of the snail-mail you sent myself and at least two other sometime banned members of this site a couple of weeks back. Not very entertaining either, i'm sure most will agree. The point i'm making is this: the entertainment value here has plummeted, that's because of the actions of one dillusional man. WSR threads are all well and good, favourite New Order this or that threads too have their place, it just seems to me that the spirit of the forum has died. That's because the entertainers have been gagged because they are more popular than a dodgy Canadian lawyer. That's all!

Originally posted by Inta-Don Hehe! has Liv called you about that Glasto theatre thing yet Kez??

No! Was looking into it yesterday but got sidetracked by spending nearly half a month's wage on Prince tickets
Will text her tonight to discuss a plan of action. What performance is everyone going to?

Liv didnt know about it when we chatted yesterday so i suggested she get in touch wiv ya after seeing ya manc news report!!

If i get to go then its gonna more than likely have to be a wkd seeing as i've just started working again.

I'll see what I can do...

I've been busy with schooling and all that, so I can't say I've been by as lately as I would have liked, but there are honestly some days where I get on and wonder why I bothered. New Order seems to have dropped off the map, nothing new's being released here in the States, I still can't find 24HPP anywhere nearby, and it just seems that the spirit and high times of a few months back are gone. In some ways, I think the one-year anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks may have something to do with it, as we all got self-concious of the fact and a general air of melancholy over the year gone by manifested itself in the highly charged nature of certain topics in various threads. Over all, the good will that had resulted from the past few month's excitement over 24 HPP and all the various promised new things subsided and was replaced by tension and spite. For that, no one is to blame, it's a collective ill will and I have been just as party to it as anyone here. When we forget why we come here, we forget how to be civil, and that seems to be the case, as NO is apparently doing nothing and the rest of us have to find soemthing to talk about.

Yeah, Muffy, this place is not what it used to be, but I've been here long enough to believe we're just going thru a down time, and if anything should be heard from about New Order things might just pick up again. It seems like a case of collective stress, and we have to weather the storm before we can see the sunlight. I've found this site to be a great community, like some of the other sites I go, so I would be cautious to declare a moratorium on the site. Sure, topics have become redundant or just plain unimaginative (I cop to a few of both myself, as a topic starter), but that's what happens when conversation runs long in real life. At any rate, it's a bad, boring patch right now, but this too shall pass.

If at the very least I can help alliviate the situation by being a smart-ass, let me know

Originally posted by Johnny Giles > Originally posted by Kez-bah> > > > Originally posted by Inta-Don> > Hehe! has Liv called you about that Glasto theatre thing yet Kez??>

No! Was looking into it yesterday but got sidetracked by spending nearly half a month's wage on Prince tickets
Will text her tonight to discuss a plan of action. What performance is everyone going to?

Hiya Kez, would be good if you, Liv & Annie could join us to this, more the merrier. The deal is.....NO are supposed to be performing as you probably already know, alas we don't know WHEN exactly. There are 6 shows in Mcr but unsure if NO will be playing some or all or any. That's the dilemma.

As the venue, a marquee or somet, only has a 600 cap, we might miss out if we hang around to get more info. Soooo, me & Al have booked Satdy tix, both performances & together with Mickey Way also got Friday night tix.

Even the legendary Stash can't find out when. Andy Rob reckons he knows nuffink. That's it really, but hopefully our guesswork will pay off.

JS - you got any inside info on this one?

Had a bit of a text fest about this with Liv last night....think we're both of the mind that it's gonna be a bit of a waste of time to buy tickets without even tentative confirmation that New Order are doing this. I'm on a budget!

Think I'm going to risk waiting until some more info comes through.

You found anything else out yet Jonathan?! :D

Sorry to be a little late in responding, but you are, as usual, absolutely correct, Mr. M.

Make that General M.

... so I was saying to this bloke 'no, a cat is unable to leap from the grass onto the tree from a sloping angle' (like a long jumper in competition), a cat has to walk up to the base of the tree and jump at almost a ninety degree trajectory. Due in most part to feline evolution, in order to remain steady the eyes of a cat work in sharp angles, 45, 90, 180 etc. - otherwise it would become dizzy and collapse thus rendering itself helpless against predators. 'Think also why a cat doesn't just jump onto your kitchen cupboards from the middle of the kitchen floor' I said, gesturing to him like how a cat would not be able to perform such a feat.

How odd said the man, 'yes', I replied, 'I have other facts but I think that's enough to be getting on with'.

Originally posted by Huntsman ... so I was saying to this bloke 'no, a cat is unable to leap from the grass onto the tree from a sloping angle' (like a long jumper in competition), a cat has to walk up to the base of the tree and jump at almost a ninety degree trajectory. Due in most part to feline evolution, in order to remain steady the eyes of a cat work in sharp angles, 45, 90, 180 etc. - otherwise it would become dizzy and collapse thus rendering itself helpless against predators. 'Think also why a cat doesn't just jump onto your kitchen cupboards from the middle of the kitchen floor'.How odd said the man, 'yes', I replied, 'I have other facts but I think that's enough to be getting on with'.

So, H, on the Lord of the Pringles DVD did you see the interview with Orlando Bloom where he said he conceptualized Legolas as a cat?

If a cat jumped on my kitchen table top I'd bat it off with a saucepan.

Allen if you're reading this - what went wrong? That £100 might have been better gambled on your boys going down ;) Well at least you saw one team give a lesson in how to play the game!

IZZY, IZZY, IZZY!

I didn't buy the DVD - I've only seen the film at the cinema (movies in America), I can't recall seeing anyone dressed up as a household cat but I did note some of the smaller beings sported whiskers. Is this what you mean?

I ventured to see Majority Rapport and was thoroughly un-phased by the entire episode. It was, unfortunately, just another film, rather than the sci-fi epic I was looking forward to. Highlight to us was counting the product placement, at 115 we gave up - and we hadn't heard of 'Terry's Crackers' which Thomas could clearly be seen in one chase scene where he was outrunning a cyber goose.

In a moment of, oh look, how coincidental, one of our prime TV channels showed 'Saving Private Brian' the other day and took the as yet unheard of (terrestrial) step of re-playing it again on Sunday night. See it Pat - you know it makes sense.

Couldn't you offer to moderate a new 'film review' section? - can you afford the time? You might only have to hire a thousand films in a year. (There can't be that many MTV Awards shows to get in the way)

Originally posted by Seb Briggs If a cat jumped on my kitchen table top I'd bat it off with a saucepan.Allen if you're reading this - what went wrong? That £100 might have been better gambled on your boys going down ;) Well at least you saw one team give a lesson in how to play the game! IZZY, IZZY, IZZY!

Yes but your missing the point. You couldn't bat the cat off as it was heading for the top because it wouldn't have flown at an angle of, say, 20 degrees. With the cat leaping at 90 your hands are too large and cumbersome to afford an accurate hit.

That is why if a ball was launched at a cat the cat would always survive (unless hampered by weights) ... they would leap at 90 and avoid the wake.

Think about it football face.

He said he was inspired by the way a cat jumps up onto a table and then just stops still.

Shaving Private Byron is still on my must-see list, based on the prior recommendation from you and M, but how can I watch other movies when I haven't yet seen The Hobbit film more than 12 times?

Minority Rupert hasn't yet appeared on pay-per-view, so I haven't had the pleasure or pain.

What makes you think I have any interest in films?

You mentioned you'd seen 'The Rabbit' twice. I'm keen on this boy who is interested in cat halt. I can save him the bother of research (although I would never stand in the way of research) and state that a cat can stop rapidly because it has springs in its paws.

(or something like that)

You could always start a forum on MTV Award Ceremonies?

But what the hell do I know.

Answer: very little.

Thinking about it I put it to you that you comprehend the difference between a colon and a semi-colon. That must mean you are technically a decent film critic.

Mullholland Falls is good.

His cat training didn't help him in Black Hawk Down.

The recent MTV Video Music Awards was RUINED by being made to seem as though it had been taped two years ago even while it was supposedly being broadcast live, or have I said that already?

I much prefer semi-colons. Others have also recommended that.

Originally posted by Huntsman > Originally posted by Seb Briggs> If a cat jumped on my kitchen table top I'd bat it off with a saucepan.> > Allen if you're reading this - what went wrong? That £100 might have been better gambled on your boys going down ;) Well at least you saw one team give a lesson in how to play the game! > > IZZY, IZZY, IZZY!

Yes but your missing the point. You couldn't bat the cat off as it was heading for the top because it wouldn't have flown at an angle of, say, 20 degrees. With the cat leaping at 90 your hands are too large and cumbersome to afford an accurate hit.

That is why if a ball was launched at a cat the cat would always survive (unless hampered by weights) ... they would leap at 90 and avoid the wake.

Think about it football face.

I'm talking about when it's sitting on top of the table top, not when it's flying through the air. If not I'd set my dog on it.

... always with the dogs ...

I like the convo in here, the only thing missing is activity from the band themselves, that would help a lot.

Hooky & Rocket Mick might be one and the same, despite rumours to the contrary...

To the Cake Brothers, Fruitcake and Patty Cake : More please and thank you!!

Can any of you say you wouldn't rather read them two jousting with each other than a constant stream of 'what's your favourite New Order this or that' threads?? TAKE THIS FORUM BACK TO WHERE IT SHOULD BE AND ALLOW THE ENTERTAINERS TO ENTERTAIN!! Only then will the spirit of this forum be rekindled.

As the Shuglet said, there was always a good mix of on and off topic threads. People looking for facts could find the answers they sought, the rest of us could piss our fucking pants all day thanks to the never ending banter. Lets get back to that, FUCK THIS TWO FORUM SHIT!!

Best wishes from Patty Cake, General.

Originally posted by Mark McKellar-Harding Hooky & Rocket Mick might be one and the same, despite rumours to the contrary...

Now my SECRET is out!:DHello MISTER LONG NAME...sorry i have not sent CD to u yet due to WORK things.Back on the ROCK 'N' ROLL soon so be patient.Yes LETS GO OUT AND HAVE SOME FUN.:D:D:D Did i tell you the one about my GOLDFISH dying....it could not swim anymore.....SAD BUT TRUE. Rocket Mick....SHUT UP YOU GIRL!

Originally posted by ShugZV Patsy and Humpty are always amusing But it's always the same conversation....fookin cats no, not fookin cats before anyone startsThey should have their own wee forum where no-one else can join in:DGoldfish gag That's more like it Baldy, memories of yer first few mental posts;)I think it was D:ream that sang.....

Always the same? Sometimes it's cats, sometimes it's badgers, sometimes it's parakeets!

Originally posted by ShugZV I do apologise Patsy, this will not happen again....well,Keep up the good work (while I'm at work) it's usually good fer a laugh listening to you's 2 (and whoever joins in)I am hoping fer an upgrade at work so I can visit during the day.....mind you, dunno if I could be arsed to join in, seeing as I never have a Scooby what ye's are on about, but it is good to see that he's not gone back to the alien language......was like trying to decipher the indecipherable on a rainy day in Peru while listening to The Spice Girls playing live on TV, while eating a soggy digestive biccy, and having heard that yer share prices have fallen by 33% fer the third day running, and the lawn mowers being knicked by a midget in a balaclava who happens to look like Ken Dodd......if you know what I mean;)

Hmm... "the alien language"... which period exactly in the history of NOOL might you be referring to? Can you give examples? I thought the discourse on cats today was very much classic H...

Originally posted by ShugZV You misunderstood Patsy.....the stuff recently has been thorughly readable, it's when he goes into his own wee world, with his names fer certain things / objects, one minute you think you know what he's banging on aboot, the next yer bamboozled againExamples?......yer joking, dig up any thread from a year ago with Humpty in, and you'll see what I mean;)

Well, yes, when he said "Rabbit" today, I had no idea what he was talking about... But that's part of the charm, isn't it?

Originally posted by ShugZV

So we agree after all!