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The Lost Sirens
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hunkydo wrote: Hey, wake up !
Just listen to this collection of... rubb... :) Very disappointing isn't it ?
These would have been lost for good.
Very poor production, artistically empty, not finished work. It's not a record, it's Just a collection of poor demos, not the level of these famous boys.
Finally, the bad lieutenant's record was more interesting and sounds a good one compare to that... thing ???
Just to release that to get some more money from the good fans is definitively the wrongest way to stay. Shame on the management, the label and the band.
Ha ha, great first post!
I don't know where to even begin....
hunkydo wrote: Hey, wake up !
Just listen to this collection of... rubb... :) Very disappointing isn't it ?
These would have been lost for good.
Very poor production, artistically empty, not finished work. It's not a record, it's Just a collection of poor demos, not the level of these famous boys.
Finally, the bad lieutenant's record was more interesting and sounds a good one compare to that... thing ???
Just to release that to get some more money from the good fans is definitively the wrongest way to stay. Shame on the management, the label and the band.
Troll...? Although the reactions are mixed on these boards, at least their criticism is sincere. You've caught me at a bad time. So why don't you piss off.
leather-girl wrote:
hunkydo wrote: Hey, wake up !
Just listen to this collection of... rubb... :) Very disappointing isn't it ?
These would have been lost for good.
Very poor production, artistically empty, not finished work. It's not a record, it's Just a collection of poor demos, not the level of these famous boys.
Finally, the bad lieutenant's record was more interesting and sounds a good one compare to that... thing ???
Just to release that to get some more money from the good fans is definitively the wrongest way to stay. Shame on the management, the label and the band.
Troll...? Although the reactions are mixed on these boards, at least their criticism is sincere. You've caught me at a bad time. So why don't you piss off.
Lost Sirens is not bad as people are making it out to be, if NO never broke up they would have made this album much better by going back to the studio and working on it , but that is not the case, these songs are still good but not classics like their other ones.
Linus Solanki wrote: Lost Sirens is not bad as people are making it out to be, if NO never broke up they would have made this album much better by going back to the studio and working on it , but that is not the case, these songs are still good but not classics like their other ones.
Not entirely sure they'd have made it 'much better' but they certainly wouldn't have released this. I like the production here, sounds a lot more 'raw' than recent offerings - I fear if they'd had spent more time on this album they'd have dumbed it down considerably and probably drowned it in a lot more bells & whistles.
Then again, more time spent on this might've removed some of the repetition - Shake It Up is a good two minutes too long, as if they'd got something very basic to work with and just kept repeating stuff ad infinitum.
El Jarvo wrote:
Linus Solanki wrote: Lost Sirens is not bad as people are making it out to be, if NO never broke up they would have made this album much better by going back to the studio and working on it , but that is not the case, these songs are still good but not classics like their other ones.
Not entirely sure they'd have made it 'much better' but they certainly wouldn't have released this. I like the production here, sounds a lot more 'raw' than recent offerings - I fear if they'd had spent more time on this album they'd have dumbed it down considerably and probably drowned it in a lot more bells & whistles.
Then again, more time spent on this might've removed some of the repetition - Shake It Up is a good two minutes too long, as if they'd got something very basic to work with and just kept repeating stuff ad infinitum.
Nice comment Al. Thought it was me writing that ![]()
First post on the new forum... I wasn't arsed to find out how to retrieve my password after the move, considering the lack of interesting NO news. I've listened to the lost tracks today, only once so it's still too early to form an opinion, but I must say that I was positively impressed by the new mix of I Told You So. I've always considered
- this song to be crap
- Stuart Price to produce shit.
However, it seems that crap + shit can sometimes lead to something good. This version of ITYS is very reminiscent of Velvet Underground's I'm Set Free, and I like it a lot! A very good surprise, and one that I would never have expected.
I've listened to it several times today and it is ... underwhelming as is. poorly sequenced, and not helped by the abundance of mid-paced songs in the middle that make the album drag. I spliced in some of the Control tracks and padded out to 11 songs/43m.41s.
- Hypnosis (edited speech at beginning/end)
- I'll Stay With You
- Shake It Up
- I've Got A Feeling
- Hellbent
- Get Out (edited shouting at beginning)
- Californian Grass
- Recoil
- Sugarcane
- I Told You So
- Exit
Some of the mixes seem a little unfinished and the song titles are a little obvious - I'd say 95% done - but perhaps occasionally a bar or two too long and / or fading instead of a proper finish, and probably the least satisfactory LP-length product since the Factus 8 1981-82 EP, but still, worth our time and attentiona nd I am glad it is finally out.
This version of ITYS is very reminiscent of Velvet Underground's I'm Set Free, and I like it a lot!
Surely you mean 'All Tomorrow's Parties'?
I'm really enjoying Lost Sirens. There are some songs on this release that are preferable to what was released on WFTSC.
That said, I came into this release willing to listen to the songs on their own merit versus what I thought they should be. To paraphrase someone else on here- Barney is definitely on top of his vocal game.
Edward wrote: I'm really enjoying Lost Sirens. There are some songs on this release that are preferable to what was released on WFTSC.
That said, I came into this release willing to listen to the songs on their own merit versus what I thought they should be. To paraphrase someone else on here- Barney is definitely on top of his vocal game.
I agree.
Johnny James wrote:
This version of ITYS is very reminiscent of Velvet Underground's I'm Set Free, and I like it a lot!
Surely you mean 'All Tomorrow's Parties'?
Of course, thanks for correcting.
"Something ain't right, I've got a feeling. Don't ask me why..."
Loving the songs. Wished these songs have been released prior to the US tour. Would have told Barney how I feel!
'Turn' and 'Waiting for the Sirens' Call' really fit the mood of Lost Sirens. As a bridge between the two records, they should have included an alternative version (not a remix) of 'Waiting for the Sirens' Call', rather than the tedious 'I Told You So', which is completely off the mark here, sound wise.
For those that are interested, Lost Sirens credits:
Written by Bernard Sumner, Peter Hook, Stephen Morris and Phil Cunningham. Recorded at Real World Studios. Mastering by Frank Arkwright. Art Direction & Design by Studio Parris Wakefield.
I'll Stay With You - Produced by New Order & Stephen Street, Mixed by Stephen Street & Cenzo Townshend Sugarcane - Produced by New Order & Tore Johansson, Mixed by Cenzo Townshend Recoil - Contains elements from "Seventh Seal" (by Noel Scott Engel), Produced & Mixed By New Order & Jim Spencer Californian Grass - Produced by New Order & Stephen Street, Mixed by Stephen Street & Cenzo Townshend Hellbent - Produced by New Order & Stephen Street, Mixed by Stephen Street & Cenzo Townshend Shake It Up - Produced by New Order & Mac Quayle, Mixed by Cenzo Townshend I've Got A Feeling - Produced by New Order & Stephen Street, Mixed by Stephen Street & Cenzo Townshend I Told You So (Crazy World Mix) - Produced by New Order & Stuart Price, Mixed by New Order & Jim Spencer
Cat number of the LP/CD combo is 2564662715
The track from which Recoil samples is from this (Noel Scott Engel = Scott Walker):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott\_4
:)
markreed wrote: I've listened to it several times today and it is ... underwhelming as is. poorly sequenced, and not helped by the abundance of mid-paced songs in the middle that make the album drag. I spliced in some of the Control tracks and padded out to 11 songs/43m.41s.
- Hypnosis (edited speech at beginning/end)
- I'll Stay With You
- Shake It Up
- I've Got A Feeling
- Hellbent
- Get Out (edited shouting at beginning)
- Californian Grass
- Recoil
- Sugarcane
- I Told You So
- Exit
Some of the mixes seem a little unfinished and the song titles are a little obvious - I'd say 95% done - but perhaps occasionally a bar or two too long and / or fading instead of a proper finish, and probably the least satisfactory LP-length product since the Factus 8 1981-82 EP, but still, worth our time and attentiona nd I am glad it is finally out.
Nice, I should do this also
Sugarcane and Shake It Up are the weakest tracks for me. Sugarcane is just mundane and workaday, nothing lifts it up above the everyday. Shake It Up is in the same league as Rock The Shack - just a brainless moronic ditty.
I've Got A Feeling was initially my least favourite track but now it's the 2nd strongest for me after Californian Grass. Can well imagine it going down well live, actually.
I guess these are my Best Sirens:
- Who's Joe (perfect intro song, really)
- Waiting For The Sirens' Call
- Sugarcane
- I'll Stay With You
- Morning Night And Day
- Hey Now What You Doing (with another name)
- Californian Grass
- Hellbent
- I've Got A Feeling
- Krafty
- Turn (Bonus)12. Jetstream (Arthur Baker Remix)
Now that's a fine record, isn't it? ![]()
Jim wrote: I don't get the Turn my way hate? Must be a regional thing. I think most North Americans like the song as everywhere else hates it. As for Lost Sirens, I'll stay with you is a instant NO classic. Some people may not like the lyrics to Sugarcane, but I's a great song. And I've got a feeling is the biggest surprise for me on how much I love it. The rest could be up to debate.
Not much bass on Sugarcane either
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hunkydo wrote: Hey, wake up !
Just listen to this collection of... rubb... :) Very disappointing isn't it ?
These would have been lost for good.
Very poor production, artistically empty, not finished work. It's not a record, it's Just a collection of poor demos, not the level of these famous boys.
Finally, the bad lieutenant's record was more interesting and sounds a good one compare to that... thing ???
Just to release that to get some more money from the good fans is definitively the wrongest way to stay. Shame on the management, the label and the band.
NCAT is a lot better than Lost Sirens IMO; NCAT was 80% great; Lost is about 60% great.
bloodynora wrote: i like it.
Me too, I can't think of anything negative to say about it..
I am just enjoying some new songs by my favourite band..![]()
Listened to it twice and I like it, though I had pretty low expectations. 'Recoil' is the weakest for me as I can't remember a damn thing about it other then it's mellow.
Quite a few more 'hey you! get yer act together!'-type songs which personally I like.
Also agree that a lot of these songs are better then some tracks on WFTSC. It just hit me that album came out eight freaking years ago! [eek3]
Is this also the first NO album Peter Saville wasn't involved with? He's no longer with Studio Parris Wakefield (I dont think)
Good point- No Saville art :(
And> Shouldn't the release be news on the homepage? Obviously we all know about it, but your casual visitor could remain oblivious and it would be good to do our bit to spread the message to the casual types?
Volturno wrote: I guess these are my Best Sirens:
- Who's Joe (perfect intro song, really)
- Waiting For The Sirens' Call
- Sugarcane
- I'll Stay With You
- Morning Night And Day
- Hey Now What You Doing (with another name)
- Californian Grass
- Hellbent
- I've Got A Feeling
- Krafty
- Turn (Bonus)12. Jetstream (Arthur Baker Remix)
Now that's a fine record, isn't it?
Re: 6. It was originally titled Road to Ruin.