The Lost Sirens

Andy wrote:

Linus Solanki wrote:

Andy wrote:

Linus Solanki wrote:

JG wrote: In at 14 on the UK mid week charts. Pretty impressive off the back of virtually no marketing or promotional activity.

Sadly in the US it didn't even make the top 200 on I-tunes or Amazon mp3 store, then again they did no promotion at all, it is still not on their official website, i guess they want nothing to do with it, sad VERY sad

Not expected to be a chart topper but maybe you should wait until after the January 22nd release date before making your sad lament.

I guess you are right

Stop making that face, another spoonfull of strained carrots is coming your way.

I was not making any faces, You are right, the album is not out in the US so I should have waited before I say anything, it seems you are the one who is making the faces.

The album is out in the US, it's only available digitally and it came out this Tuesday, the 15th. The only way to get the CD or LP in the US is to import it from the UK. The reason Amazon has a January 22nd release date listed is because it takes them a week to get stuff from the UK and distribute it here. I highly doubt this release is going to make any sort of impact in the US, given the bands limited popularity (compared to the UK) and the complete lack of promotion around this release. Rhino US sees this as a release for the fans, it's there digitally for anyone who wants it and if you need a physical CD/LP, you can import it through Amazon.

minusthesnake wrote: The album is out in the US, it's only available digitally and it came out this Tuesday, the 15th. The only way to get the CD or LP in the US is to import it from the UK. The reason Amazon has a January 22nd release date listed is because it takes them a week to get stuff from the UK and distribute it here. I highly doubt this release is going to make any sort of impact in the US, given the bands limited popularity (compared to the UK) and the complete lack of promotion around this release. Rhino US sees this as a release for the fans, it's there digitally for anyone who wants it and if you need a physical CD/LP, you can import it through Amazon.

Do you work for Rhino?

No Barcode wrote:

minusthesnake wrote: The album is out in the US, it's only available digitally and it came out this Tuesday, the 15th. The only way to get the CD or LP in the US is to import it from the UK. The reason Amazon has a January 22nd release date listed is because it takes them a week to get stuff from the UK and distribute it here. I highly doubt this release is going to make any sort of impact in the US, given the bands limited popularity (compared to the UK) and the complete lack of promotion around this release. Rhino US sees this as a release for the fans, it's there digitally for anyone who wants it and if you need a physical CD/LP, you can import it through Amazon.

Do you work for Rhino?

No, but I used to work at Warners (Rhino's parent label) so I can tell you how they think with releases like this.

minusthesnake wrote: The album is out in the US, it's only available digitally and it came out this Tuesday, the 15th. The only way to get the CD or LP in the US is to import it from the UK. The reason Amazon has a January 22nd release date listed is because it takes them a week to get stuff from the UK and distribute it here. I highly doubt this release is going to make any sort of impact in the US, given the bands limited popularity (compared to the UK) and the complete lack of promotion around this release. Rhino US sees this as a release for the fans, it's there digitally for anyone who wants it and if you need a physical CD/LP, you can import it through Amazon.

Thanks, nice to know

Linus Solanki wrote:

I was not making any faces, You are right, the album is not out in the US so I should have waited before I say anything, it seems you are the one who is making the faces.

I was referring to your avatar.

I must say I love lost sirens. I rate it in the middle of the previous two albums (better than wtfsc but not as good as get ready).

1. I'll stay with you - same guitar chords as here to stay and u could easily interchange the to songs lyrics. Chorus is superb but verse lyrics a bit naff first verse. Love the intro. Could be a single. 7/10
2. sugarcane - reminds me of Liar (but better). Could be a single. Choppy guitars, gorgeous synths and great vocals and lyrics. Catchy chorus. Very poppy and could be a hit? 8/10
3. Recoil - for me this is the hidden lost track and the highlight on the album. I wish new order did more downbeat songs (I love RIAD and times change). This could be the acoustic sibling of draculas castle. One of barneys best recent vocals deliveries. Lovely acoustic guitar and piano and hooky bass. 9/10
4. Californian grass - reminds me of turn. Great flowing track with excellent guitar parts. The lyrics are complete codswallop but I've grown to like them in a funny grass kids way and I like Barney sings lower octave for verses 7/10
5. Hellbent - I wasn't fussed about this track for Total release but i like this version (although it's probably not much different). Similar sounding to player in the league. 7/10
6. I got a feeling - a different key I think to normal new order. Average track that doesn't quite float my boat 6/10. Growing to like this. Has a strong verse and a great hook for verse (but don't like how he sings "screen". 7/10
7. shake it up - this has a gorgeous melody. Idiot country-esque wah wah guitars and a bit of spooky sounding. Great backing vox panning left to right from hooky. Hooky bass sounds similar to thst on GIAUE. An unexpected chord change for the main chorus.sounds complete and ready to release as a single Love it 9/10
8. I told you so - the least exciting track for me. Although I think the song works better with this mix, more low fi, nice drums,guitar lower in mix. I still not to fussed about it.5/10

Overall 7.5/10

Overall

I've Got A Feeling is hands down the best track on this album.

I prefer the Total version of Hellbent which would have made it a close 2nd. This version makes it a distant 2nd.

The lyrics are so bad in I'll Stay With You, that I just cant bring myself to listen to it again which is a shame. It could have been a good song.

The rest of the tracks should have stayed lost.

I'm huge NO fan but I seem to love half of each NO album and hate the other half. So just getting two awesome tracks here meets my expectations.

Andy wrote:

Linus Solanki wrote:

I was not making any faces, You are right, the album is not out in the US so I should have waited before I say anything, it seems you are the one who is making the faces.

I was referring to your avatar.

Oh sorry about that then, hope no hard feelings.

Its not the best song on the album but Sugarcane has been stuck in my head. I don't know if they release a single for Lost Sirens but that track would make sense as it is catchy.

I listened to WFTSC again after Lost Sirens and Lost Sirens to me is a much better sounds album. I told you so's quasi reggae on WFTSC sounds cheesy (and I do like reggae normally).

I think adding Gillian to the mix again will improve the next album but its a shame that Hooky and Barney can't just co-exist for professional reasons.

Ouch! http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/reviews/ios-album-review-new-order-lost-sirens-rhino-8449093.html#disqus\_thread

NotAMod wrote:

Michael Monkhouse wrote: Ouch! http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/reviews/ios-album-review-new-order-lost-sirens-rhino-8449093.html#disqus\_thread

Not sure how barley 100 words - half of which don't talk about the actual songs - constitutes a "review"?

The Independent's gone downhill a bit.

In fairness, they've summed it up quite nicely.

"unchallenging semi-electronic pop-rock you'd expect from late-period New Order, complete with lyrics of, to be kind, nursery rhyme simplicity"

bug wrote: I've Got A Feeling is hands down the best track on this album.

I prefer the Total version of Hellbent which would have made it a close 2nd. This version makes it a distant 2nd.

The lyrics are so bad in I'll Stay With You, that I just cant bring myself to listen to it again which is a shame. It could have been a good song.

The rest of the tracks should have stayed lost.

I'm huge NO fan but I seem to love half of each NO album and hate the other half. So just getting two awesome tracks here meets my expectations.

I've changed I got a feeling to a 7 as its a grower.

Can't tell difference between two hellbent mixes.

I popped into HMV Oxford street tonight to see if they had Lost Sirens Vinyl/CD edition at a reasonable price (yes HMV was open and people were... buying things). Employee looked it up on the computer: Price £18 (ouch!). Copies in stock: 0. But then he looked up the CD, and these stats showed up: Price £8 (better), 57 sold this week. In stock (18 copies to be exact). 57 ain't exactly a lot considering that particular HMV is probably the biggest record shop left in London (for now). Anyway I had to have a look at the physical product, and for £8 I couldn't resist buying it. Undecided whether I'll get the vinyl version too now. Rough Trade East told me on the phone yesterday they're selling it for £13.99 (in stock) in case anyone is interested.

One more credit from the CD booklet: Project Manager: Gary Lancaster.

Now that the thing is out, would occasional NOOLer Gary like to tell us what that involved? Hooky's been claiming recently that it wasn't him causing the delays. So what was the story?

Mr Jarvo's right, the Independent review ain't too far off the mark about these lyrics of a 'nursey-rhyme simplicity'. The thing is that when you fall in love with a group you fall for everything, even the things that objective observers whinge about. I always used to go on about New Order in '89, then I watched a vid with a friend and he said 'That guy can't really sing, that bass player shouldn't try to hog the stage like that, that synthist looks like she's made of lead, that drummer keeps pulling funny faces'... And I thought 'Yeah, that's what I like, so fuck off.'

I enjoyed your post Antoz. New Order have been my fave band of the last 25 years and always will be my fave band, whether they make music or not. I am glad I have a copy of Lost Sirens - I've got the cd and vinyl set. Hope they do make a new album. We shall see.

Just curious... how does the Lost Sirens CD case that comes with the vinyl set differ from the stand alone CD? Or are they the same?

0_o wrote: Just curious... how does the Lost Sirens CD case that comes with the vinyl set differ from the stand alone CD? Or are they the same?

they are different vinyl edition has a card sleeve the actual cd is as per previews for months

0_o wrote: Just curious... how does the Lost Sirens CD case that comes with the vinyl set differ from the stand alone CD? Or are they the same?

Wondered this myself as haven't received my copy yet. I'm guessing the CD is in just a cardboard slip ?

The album entered the UK album chart at 23 today

Thanks again wrote:

0_o wrote: Just curious... how does the Lost Sirens CD case that comes with the vinyl set differ from the stand alone CD? Or are they the same?

Wondered this myself as haven't received my copy yet. I'm guessing the CD is in just a cardboard slip ?

The album entered the UK album chart at 23 today

Yup, the one with the vinyl is just a card sleeve variant with a slightly different cover (i.e. no album title, etc on it). The standalone CD is also in a jewel case.

😎

Finally the UK import of 'Lost Sirens' (the CD only version) was delivered to my house via HMV JP. 😎

leather-girl wrote: Finally the UK import of 'Lost Sirens' (the CD only version) was delivered to my house via HMV JP. 😎

Mine was delivered this morning, cd only version also. Good to finally have it.. (even if the jewel case was cracked...)

Cranelane wrote:

leather-girl wrote: Finally the UK import of 'Lost Sirens' (the CD only version) was delivered to my house via HMV JP. 😎

Mine was delivered this morning, cd only version also. Good to finally have it.. (even if the jewel case was cracked...)

What? You just bought it though? Mine was not cracked or anything.

leather-girl wrote:

Cranelane wrote:

leather-girl wrote: Finally the UK import of 'Lost Sirens' (the CD only version) was delivered to my house via HMV JP. 😎

Mine was delivered this morning, cd only version also. Good to finally have it.. (even if the jewel case was cracked...)

What? You just bought it though? Mine was not cracked or anything.

I got it from Amazon UK, there is always a risk of there being a crack in the jewel case when you get a cd by post, it's fine though, I will just swop the case with another one..

Cranelane wrote:

leather-girl wrote:

Cranelane wrote:

leather-girl wrote: Finally the UK import of 'Lost Sirens' (the CD only version) was delivered to my house via HMV JP. 😎

Mine was delivered this morning, cd only version also. Good to finally have it.. (even if the jewel case was cracked...)

What? You just bought it though? Mine was not cracked or anything.

I got it from Amazon UK, there is always a risk of there being a crack in the jewel case when you get a cd by post, it's fine though, I will just swop the case with another one..

I order CDs all the time from online shops (HMV JP, Amazon JP), even imported ones. I've never had a cracked case before though.But I'm sorry to hear that.

NME review

Got the Vinyl/CD version last week via Amazon. Have to say it's alright. The opening track is great, Sugarcane's very pop but like it. Recoil's utter shite, down there with Rock the Shack/Working OT/We all Stand etc. The rest are pretty much what I was expecting. I think they should have released a strong(ish) 8 or 9 track Sirens Call back in 2005 with the rest as B-Sides. Been listening to the CD most of the time and when I got a chance to play the vinyl gave the needle a Subbuteo style flick when it got to Recoil in the hope it would carve a path for future plays, nearly got to the end of the track as it happens ! All in all, nice to hear the tracks. Hope there's another one on the way, still live in hope that they'll come up with a classic.