The Lost Sirens
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Thanks again wrote: NME review
6/10 is a terrible rating indeed. "The disco silliness of ‘Sugarcane’ is cheesy as hell, but when the spirit is with them, they’ve made dafter songs sound like seeing the face of god". World in Motion?
I wonder what Hooky and Steve really think about Sumner's recent poetry. I've never heard them say a word on the subject. Didn't Steve at least once throw his drumsticks up in the air and say, 'Really, Bernard, really???'
Recoil and I've Got A Feeling have both really grown on me. The first sounded so slight on the first few listens, but isn't. It's a slow burner. The second reminds me of a Monaco track, but not "that" Monaco track.
I presume we've all tried making this a whole album, using the tracks off of Control, yes?
Hypnosis I'll Stay With You Sugarcane Shake It Up Hellbent Exit I've Got A Feeling I Told You So (Crazy World mix) Get Out Recoil Californian Grass
Hypnosis makes the lyrics to I'll Stay With You almost painful to listen, but in a good way, makes the song feel as if it's about letting a friend (Curtis) down when things have got difficult. The other Control tracks flow into the songs I've paired them with, and stop the more subtle Lost tracks being swamped by the, er, brashness of the Lost songs immediately before them on the CD.
JG wrote: Sound On Cloud review
"Did anyone ever listen to New Order for the lyrics anyway? He's committed worse crimes of course. Anybody remember the rapping on Republic?"
Yep, me. Quite like Republic, and the rap on Electronic, too.
Review I've just posted is one of the most balanced and informed I've seen. Possibly agree with this more than any of the others posted here.
Simon Price, the Independent Reviewer has been forced to take a 25% pay cut this year - and it shows. That was a half arsed effort which leads me to think he's played LS just a couple of times before dumping his first thoughts down.
That NME review isn't too bad. Any album that is released on the basis of being not fully finished is going to struggle slightly with ratings. And I doubt the NME readership these days includes many who do anything other than torrent.
Kelvin wrote: Recoil and I've Got A Feeling have both really grown on me. The first sounded so slight on the first few listens, but isn't. It's a slow burner. The second reminds me of a Monaco track, but not "that" Monaco track.
This.
JG wrote: Simon Price, the Independent Reviewer has been forced to take a 25% pay cut this year - and it shows. That was a half arsed effort which leads me to think he's played LS just a couple of times before dumping his first thoughts down.
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that (!)
Mike C. wrote:
JG wrote: Sound On Cloud review
"Did anyone ever listen to New Order for the lyrics anyway? He's committed worse crimes of course. Anybody remember the rapping on Republic?"
Yep, me. Quite like Republic, and the rap on Electronic, too.
Whether by accident or design, Barney has written some sublime lyrics in his time. I wonder how much feedback he gets from the others in the studio. Sometimes the quality control could be a lot tighter!
Was listening to Twisted Tenderness this week. Some really brave lyrics, again accident or design? I don't think there's another Barney song like Flicker...http://www.elyrics.net/read/e/electronic-lyrics/flicker-lyrics.html
I guess I was unlucky...I pre ordered the vinyl/CD combo from Amazon.com a couple of weeks ago...it still hasn't shipped and it says they are "temporarily out of stock"...ugh...
Brian Barker wrote: I guess I was unlucky...I pre ordered the vinyl/CD combo from Amazon.com a couple of weeks ago...it still hasn't shipped and it says they are "temporarily out of stock"...ugh...
Your best bet is from CDwow.com, it is cheaper than amazon and free shipping.
Thank you Linus! I'll keep CDNow in mind, but actually the price I got from Amazon is a little cheaper...(about .23 cent...no big deal), it was higher on Amazon until a day or two ago, though...Plus CDNow says it will ship in 7-10 days, so at this point I guess I'll wait and see what happens with Amazon...
I guess it's selling a little better than most of these stores thought it would...
NotAMod wrote: According to Discogs the CDs have identical audio content but different matrices on the inner rings.
Lost Sirens LP+CD Lost Sirens CD
The CD that comes with the LP is a cardboard sleeve with a "section" of the LP sized artwork on the front and back.
I've got the jewel case CD but sent the LP+CD up to my collection elsewhere and I'll probably keep it sealed.
No point in unwrapping it really as no turntable.
NEW ORDER LOS SIRENS RELESE INFO
LP EU 2013 Rhino 2564662715 * / + * LP and CD combination-both have the same track listings and following Cat numbers - 2564662715 Card sleeve CD. EU 2013 Rhino 2564653448 (Jewel Case)
Further detailed information here:
http://www.neworderweb.net/discographies/neworder/no_lostsirens.php
steve
Finally have me hands on the Vinyl + CD.Postman knocked on the door this morning which was lucky as it happened i was home from work early today.![[:)]](/emoticons/smile.gif){kind=small}
im loving ill stay with you, sugarcane, recoil and shake it up. 3 more songs and the follow up to WFTSC could have been best release since technique (IMO of course).
Finally bought Lost Sirens. Overall I like it...I wasn't expecting it to be a big departure from WFTSC as it was recorded round the same time, so I didn't look at it as a "new" album per se.
I'll Stay With You - One of the very best post 2000 New Order songs..truly great. moving lyrics and vocals from Bernard, lovely bass melodies from Hooky, some Smithsy guitar from Phil, lighting crack drumming from Steve, and nice, crisp electronics. Song has great melodies as well as some lovely guitar thrashing from Bernard that reminds me of Brotherhood.
Sugarcane - LOVE IT. Of course I also thought that Jetstream and Guilt Is a Useless Emotion were two of New Order best synth heavy dance tunes/pop singles. I love the throbbing, discoey synth bass line, the funky Chic esque guitars from Bernard and Phil, the four to the floor drums from Steve, and the interlocking piano and synth string parts, and the outro is great. The song is very bouncey and has a lot of Great energy, I think that had it been released as a single in 2006 to promote the new album, it would have been a hit, it brings to mine what Franz Ferdinand were doing round the same time. Great club song. Great vocals from Bernard and the lyrics have a nice, satiric edge about celebrity pop culture..."it's just another day in the life of a superstar," Sumner sings breezily. I love the outro tooooo is Hooky even on this song?
Hellbent - I've always loved this song since I heard the Total Mix. This Mix is a bit rawer, but I like that you can hear the synths a bit more. I love Hellbent, I love the soaring, uplifting chorus melodies, the interplay between the guitar and the synths, Hooky's bass runs, Steve's bouncey drums and programming, the instrumental climax of the song. I love the the lyrics as well, smart, thought out lyrics. Bernard really went to town with the keyboard work on this tune.
"You're the star in the scene, you're not just anybody. There's a light in your eyes that I can't seem to reach. Over here in the sky, is is shining on me? We have hope in hearts, and dreams in our heads, but most of the time we stay in our beds. If you go out there, just up the hall, it's a cold, cruel world outside that door."
One of my favorite Bernard Lyrics for sure.
Californian Grass - Love the intro, swirling strings and guitars, great mix of electronics and acoustics. Bernard sounds great singing in his lower register, the synths on the verses are great, and Hooky sounds good on the low bass. The whole song is very, very Techniquey, kind of melancholy. I love the chorus lyrics, "For a few dollars more." Nice Sergio Leone reference! Great guitar break in the middle of the song, reminds me of Neil Young, which I can totally dig. I like the squiggly synths at the end.
Recoil - Love it. Really dark and moody songs, brings to mind Ruined in a Day and setting suns. Really niece melodic bass work from Hooky, nice interplay between Bernard and Hooky's guitars.
I've Got a Feeling - One of the very best post 2000 songs. A really beautiful, sad, well written song. I cannot help but think that Bernard wrote these lyrics about Hooky while he was still in the band. A moving song about the death of a friendship.
Shake It Up - This song is delightfully bonkers! I love the fat staccato synth bass, the mix of arpeggiated synths and funky wah wah guitars, the Confusion-eque percussion and backing vocals, the song is a lot of fun and it sounds like the band had fun making it. The chorus is a bit weak though.
I Told You So - I liked the version on WFTSC (I must be the only one) and this version is excellent...very Velvet Underground and icy, I dig it.
Overall, for what it is, I think Lost Sirens is pretty good. It has 4 songs that I think are among the best of New Order's later work (Sugarcane, Hellbent, I'll Stay With You, I've Got a Feeling) and the songs have a loose, funky, fun, weird energy that was missing for WFTSC. I think it would have been the basis if an excellent 2006/2007 New Order album, with Sugarcane and Hellbent as lead singles. I like the raw production qualities of these tunes as well.
I wouldn't mind hearing Hellbent and Sugarcane played by the current line up.
A nice curiosity...hopefully now New Order will make some new music.
Zachery Allan Starkey
ZASmusic, i completely agree, excellent review --
(i am also one of the few fans like you who appreciates Guilt Is a Useless Emotion - and Hellbent )
Agree about hellbent great track and works well in the context of an album rather than just bunged on the end of the Total comp
Cancelled my Amazon order - tired of waiting for it to ship, grabbed it on iTunes. Screw Amazon.
After one beginning-to-end listen I re-listened to I'll Stay With You a few times, AND RECOIL 5!!!!!
Wow, this was an unexpected track. Somber and moody, I felt like I was on a beach at 6pm watching the waves, squeezing the last few rays of heat from the sun, and drinking that last drink before going back to the hotel to clean up and continue onwards.
Love the Hooky solos, and blends of guitar (whomever it was).
Despite my apathy with Mr. Hook this track really drove home to me that this was indeed yet another sad ending for the band. And for me.
Onwards.
Mike C. wrote: Somber and moody, I felt like I was on a beach at 6pm watching the waves, squeezing the last few rays of heat from the sun, and drinking that last drink before going back to the hotel to clean up and continue onwards.
That's exactly how I was listening to the album.
No Barcode wrote:
Mike C. wrote: Somber and moody, I felt like I was on a beach at 6pm watching the waves, squeezing the last few rays of heat from the sun, and drinking that last drink before going back to the hotel to clean up and continue onwards.
That's exactly how I was listening to the album.
It's snowy where I live but I agree it's a pleasant sounding album.
Mike C. wrote: Cancelled my Amazon order - tired of waiting for it to ship, grabbed it on iTunes. Screw Amazon.
After one beginning-to-end listen I re-listened to I'll Stay With You a few times, AND RECOIL 5!!!!!
Wow, this was an unexpected track. Somber and moody, I felt like I was on a beach at 6pm watching the waves, squeezing the last few rays of heat from the sun, and drinking that last drink before going back to the hotel to clean up and continue onwards.
Love the Hooky solos, and blends of guitar (whomever it was).
Despite my apathy with Mr. Hook this track really drove home to me that this was indeed yet another sad ending for the band. And for me.
Onwards.
Try the 3rd party sellers on Amazon, on the same page. They actually have it, and some cheaper.
0_o wrote:
Mike C. wrote: Cancelled my Amazon order - tired of waiting for it to ship, grabbed it on iTunes. Screw Amazon.
After one beginning-to-end listen I re-listened to I'll Stay With You a few times, AND RECOIL 5!!!!!
Wow, this was an unexpected track. Somber and moody, I felt like I was on a beach at 6pm watching the waves, squeezing the last few rays of heat from the sun, and drinking that last drink before going back to the hotel to clean up and continue onwards.
Love the Hooky solos, and blends of guitar (whomever it was).
Despite my apathy with Mr. Hook this track really drove home to me that this was indeed yet another sad ending for the band. And for me.
Onwards.
Try the 3rd party sellers on Amazon, on the same page. They actually have it, and some cheaper.
Think i inadvertently ended up buying from a third party seller when orderded from Amazon . "All Your Music" , still took a week and a half to be delivered though. The album sounds great on Vinyl but i think i need a new needle for my Technics record deck. Found i can buy the correct needle i need online quite easily, ebay etc
is it bro wrote: im loving ill stay with you, sugarcane, recoil and shake it up. 3 more songs and the follow up to WFTSC could have been best release since technique (IMO of course).
Is just me who like I've got a feeling?
Big Mouth Julio wrote:
is it bro wrote: im loving ill stay with you, sugarcane, recoil and shake it up. 3 more songs and the follow up to WFTSC could have been best release since technique (IMO of course).
Is just me who like I've got a feeling?
I quite like that song.
