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negative1 wrote:

Mr Discography wrote:

Your timings and formats are out for these mixes.

I assume the versions you refer to as "mix2" are the second attempt Barney had at his Renegade Mixes - identifiable by the "Hooky" bass riff about halfway through both versions (vocal and instrumental)? These versions appear on the digital and CD single releases and your timings are correct.

The original Renegade Mixes (without "Hooky") however, only appeared on the 12", and are both a little longer - each with slightly longer intros just before the first verse:

Renegade Mix: 6:33 Renegade Instrumental: 6:32

Timings are from my digitised vinyl grabs made with a Technics 1210 into my laptop.

Hope that's helpful.

Andy

thanks andy for clearing that up, i made a note of it when the differences were first noted, but haven't gone back to check it.

later -1

Think you're still short a few variations of Rebel.

My record:

Be A Rebel 4:48 12"; CD-R promo; CDS; DD Be A Rebel (Edit) 3:35 CD-R promo; CDS; DD Be A Rebel (Maceo Plex Remix) 6:56 2x12"; CDS; DD Be A Rebel (Maceo Plex Remix Edit) 5:27 [Stream/rip only - New Order YouTube] Be A Rebel (Paul Woolford Remix Edit) 4:07 DD Be A Rebel (Paul Woolford Remix New Order Edit) 6:41 2x12"; CDS; DD Be A Rebel (Bernard's Outlaw Mix) 6:41 2x12"; CDS; DD Be A Rebel (Renegade Spezial Edit) 3:09 2x12"; CDS; DD Be A Rebel (Renegade Spezial Edit - Adidas version) 1:35 [Stream/rip only - Adidas YouTube] Be A Rebel (Bernard’s Renegade Mix) 6:25 CDS; DD Be A Rebel (Bernard’s Renegade Mix) [12" version] 6:31 12" Be A Rebel (Bernard’s Renegade Instrumental Mix) 6:18 CDS; DD Be A Rebel (Bernard’s Renegade Instrumental Mix) [12" version] 6:31 12" Be A Rebel (Stephen’s T34 Mix) 5:25 12"; CDS; DD Be A Rebel (Mark Reeder's Dirty Devil Remix) 5:26 2x12"; CDS; DD Be A Rebel (Mark Reeder's Cheeky Devil Remix) 4:44 DD [Mark Reeder album exclusive] Be A Rebel (JakoJako Remix) 4:29 2x12"; CDS ; DD Be A Rebel (Melwati Remix) 5:17 2x12"; CDS ; DD Be A Rebel (Arthur Baker Remix) 8:07 2x12"; CDS ; DD Be A Rebel (Music Video Edit) 3:36 [Stream/rip only - New Order YouTube]

Will be updating the list once with the timings from the deluxe Low-life tracks.

Extras	CD2-1		Love Vigilantes (TV Pitch Instrumental Edit)	6:14CD2-2		The Perfect Kiss (Writing Session Recording)3:17CD2-3		Untitled No. 1 (Writing Session Recording)1:30CD2-4		Sunrise (Instrumental Rough Mix)	5:48CD2-5		Elegia (Full Length Version)	17:30CD2-6		Sooner Than You Think (Album Session Unedited Version)	6:24CD2-7		Sub-Culture (Album Session Early Instrumental Version)	6:07CD2-8		Face Up (Writing Session Recording)3:34CD2-9		Let's Go (Album Session Instrumental)	4:14CD2-10		Untitled No. 2 (Writing Session Recording)5:53CD2-11		Sunrise (Writing Session Recording)4:32CD2-12		Love Vigilantes (Writing Session Recording)4:18CD2-13		Sooner Than You Think (Writing Session Recording)3:04CD2-14		Skullcrusher (Demo)	5:37Live In Tokyo 1985	DVD1-1		Confusion8:04DVD1-2		Love Vigilantes	4:32DVD1-3		We All Stand	4:46DVD1-4		As It Is When It Was	4:55DVD1-5		Sub-Culture	4:58DVD1-6		Face Up	5:30DVD1-7		Sunrise	7:12DVD1-8		This Time Of Night	4:54DVD1-9		Blue Monday	8:51Live In Rotterdam 1985	DVD1-10		As It Is When It Was	4:09DVD1-11		Everything's Gone Green	3:58DVD1-12		Sub-Culture	5:00DVD1-13		Ceremony4:43DVD1-14		Let's Go	4:21DVD1-15		This Time Of Night	5:58DVD1-16		The Village	5:07DVD1-17		The Perfect Kiss	9:29DVD1-18		Age Of Consent	4:59DVD1-19		Sunrise	5:39DVD1-20		Temptation	6:55DVD1-21		Face Up	6:30Live In Manchester 1985	DVD1-22		As It Is When It Was	3:48DVD1-23		Sunrise	5:18DVD1-24		Face Up	5:19Live In Leuven 1985	DVD2-1		Let's Go	4:45DVD2-2		The Perfect Kiss	9:13DVD2-3		Age Of Consent	5:00DVD2-4		State Of The Nation	6:29DVD2-5		As It Is When It Was	3:50DVD2-6		The Village	4:31DVD2-7		Sub-Culture	5:14DVD2-8		Atmosphere4:42DVD2-9		Blue Monday	8:03Bonus Tracks	DVD2-10		Thieves Like Us6:20DVD2-11		Temptation	7:24DVD2-12		Confusion5:39Live In Toronto 1985	DVD2-13		Elegia	6:39DVD2-14		Sub-Culture	5:05DVD2-15		The Village	4:20DVD2-16		Sunrise	5:06DVD2-17		We All Stand	4:14DVD2-18		As It Is When It Was	3:53DVD2-19		Love Vigilantes	5:06DVD2-20		586	5:48DVD2-21		Age Of Consent	4:49DVD2-22		Temptation	7:35DVD2-23		Ceremony5:51DVD2-24		The Perfect Kiss	10:00The Perfect Film	DVD2-25		The Perfect Kiss10:36

later -1

Working through the listings in the back of Dennis's book and spotted this is missing from the Songography

Singularity (Mark Reeder's Duality Remix Edit) 3:49

https://www.discogs.com/release/8300976-New-Order-Singularity

The full Duality Remix you have in the your list is 4:57

Also minor things noted

The 1963 (4:21) version on Singles is an extended version of 1963-94 rather than a shortened edit of the original 1963

Guilt Is A Useless Emotion [Blueplate Vox Edit] 4:59 is the same mix/also known as the "MARK!'s True N.O. Vox Edit" see here https://www.discogs.com/release/727391-New-Order-Guilt-Is-A-Useless-Emotion-DMD-Consumer-Version Also some of the promos refer to the True N.O Vox and True N.O Dub as the Blueplate mixes see here https://www.discogs.com/release/587781-New-Order-Guilt-Is-A-Useless-Emotion-Remixes

GotBlueEyes wrote: Working through the listings in the back of Dennis's book and spotted this is missing from the Songography

Singularity (Mark Reeder's Duality Remix Edit) 3:49

https://www.discogs.com/release/8300976-New-Order-Singularity

The full Duality Remix you have in the your list is 4:57

Also minor things noted

The 1963 (4:21) version on Singles is an extended version of 1963-94 rather than a shortened edit of the original 1963

Guilt Is A Useless Emotion [Blueplate Vox Edit] 4:59 is the same mix/also known as the "MARK!'s True N.O. Vox Edit" see here https://www.discogs.com/release/727391-New-Order-Guilt-Is-A-Useless-Emotion-DMD-Consumer-Version Also some of the promos refer to the True N.O Vox and True N.O Dub as the Blueplate mixes see here https://www.discogs.com/release/587781-New-Order-Guilt-Is-A-Useless-Emotion-Remixes

i still have to look back into these.. now is a good time...

updated listings from brotherhood boxset, an dolby atmos mixes..

listing got too long, and is now split in 3 parts..

part 3 is a couple of posts below the first 2.

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