New Order: Decades documentary

I don't collect vinyl because I think it sounds better. After years as a DJ, playing in bands, and working around jet engines, my hearing is sh*t.

I buy vinyl because I like having a tactile, physical object. I like having large-scale artwork and liner notes. I like interacting with the music when I have to flip the side. It keeps me connected to the music where so many people view it as a disposable commodity. I have to make a conscious choice of what I want to listen to from start to finish, instead of streaming whatever playlist and never giving it a second thought. It helps me to be more selective. It helps me pay attention.

And yes, there's a degree of nostalgia cash-in, but I don't mind. I will never get tired of buying a "new" New Order album.

Yeah - that makes total sense. I too love having a physical product to look at when listening to the music. Which is kind of why I kind of dislike (but still subscribe to) Apple Music / Spotify. I buy a tonne of deluxe edition CD sets (much to my wife’s annoyance), just so I can hold the items in my hands. I don’t need to buy them as I can listen to them via streaming services, but I want to ‘own’ these products.

I can also appreciate looking at large scale artwork, especially with New Order’s Saville sleeves. I still love browsing my old vinyl collection (despite not buying any new vinyl). If the much rumoured NO LP box sets come out and include vinyl, I will probably make an exception and buy them, vinyl and all. In fact, if there was a choice between CD only and a CD / Vinyl combo, I’d probably choose the latter just to have the lovely sleeves.

What I’m complaining about, I guess, is really just the marketing gimmick that I see companies selling us. Where you have people telling us that the music is better on vinyl and it’s how the artists meant you to hear it etc.

Meh.Don’t think I’ll bother buying the Total vinyl edition.Didn’t bother buying the CD either. I like vinyl though and bought a great new Pro-Ject turntable a while back to replace an old 80s Technics one which had become incapable of playing 45s at the correct speed. Some music sounds better on vinyl and some sounds better on CD or FLAC files, kind of tired of that old debate. It is indeed nice to have the big 12” sleeve and putting the needle on the record.

Total came across as “What can we come up with that hasn’t been done before with a New Order greatest hits? I know, let’s put Joy Division and New Order on the same album!”

I guess a hits compilation with Electronic and New Order on the same album would be the next logical step. That’s never been done before. Or a Other Two and Monaco on the same album.

I jest. But the release of Total on vinyl comes across also a bit as just a thing to keep interest in New Order bubbling under. Or that the mooted box set has been delayed/abandoned and something else is needed to fill a gap in releases.

Yep - it does smack a little of trying to keep the embers of interest alive.

Just release those box sets already...

Fotzepolitic wrote: I also captured the audios of the 5 songs aired in Decades.Created a kind of mini album.One or two i didn't quite get how i wanted, for example at the end of Plastic there's audible bit of Bernard talking in the doc after the song finishes and a microsecond is missing from the start of Your Silent Face.But they're good to transfer to your phone or whatever and listen on the go.I uploaded the zip to MediaFire

5 songs from Decades doc

Nice work - cheers!

Having attended the original MIF show at Granada Studios, was fortunate to travel to Vienna for the 2nd-night of this & it was just as special.

The Sky Arts airing of the 'Decades' film was a great record of the gig, reconfirmed to me by it being screened at the British Music Experience in Liverpool this week - with brief introductory amble by Dave Haslam, who was as witty as ever.

It would make for a great DVD release - any forum members have insight as to whether anything is on the cards?

As a side-note, Haslam alluded to doing something with Steve for the publishing his upcoming book - maybe along the lines of the Royal Exchange chat he did with Bernard for Chapter & Verse?

Sportak-Mustgo wrote: Having attended the original MIF show at Granada Studios, was fortunate to travel to Vienna for the 2nd-night of this & it was just as special.

The Sky Arts airing of the 'Decades' film was a great record of the gig, reconfirmed to me by it being screened at the British Music Experience in Liverpool this week - with brief introductory amble by Dave Haslam, who was as witty as ever.

It would make for a great DVD release - any forum members have insight as to whether anything is on the cards?

As a side-note, Haslam alluded to doing something with Steve for the publishing his upcoming book - maybe along the lines of the Royal Exchange chat he did with Bernard for Chapter & Verse?

I’m pretty sure I read somewhere that an official release was planned at some point (may have just been us fans speculating though). I may be misremembering this but I think the director was also involved in the filming of the Alexandra Palace gig (Mike Christie?), so there was some speculation that both Decades and the gig may get a release.

Fingers crossed.

Sportak-Mustgo, if you're reading this, go to the Ceremony (live) section and find the Alexandra Palace gig thread (oh, I've done it for you). Take a look at the tweets I embedded in post #38. If I were a betting man I'd put a couple of quid on this happening.

Decades is getting a screening at the Ace Hotel in Shoreditch next month, followed by a Q&A with the director, Mike ChristeDice

I've booked to go because it looks like I'm never going to get to see it otherwise, and while its not going to be an Imax sized screen in a hotel, it will still probably be bigger than any screen I've got at home to watch it on if it ever gets a DVD/Blu-ray release.

Ken Doherty wrote:

I've booked to go because it looks like I'm never going to get to see it otherwise, .

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Fotzepolitic wrote:

Ken Doherty wrote:

I've booked to go because it looks like I'm never going to get to see it otherwise, .

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Cheers but I'm going to wait for the screening now, but at least I can go back to that afterwards for repeat viewings.

So I finally got round to seeing this on Saturday at the Ace Hotel in Shoreditch: I'm glad I waited to see it on a reasonably sized screen at a decent volume rather than seeing it on YouTube (it wasn't exactly a THX setup but it was better than seeing it on a PC monitor or TV screen).

I enjoyed it but I wouldn't be in a rush to see it again: nice to see the interviews with the band, Peter Savile, Jon Savage & Co. but it seemed an awfully long time until we got to see a full song. I stuck round for the Q&A with Mike Christie afterwards, during which he mentioned that this won't get a download/dvd release until its been screened in the U.S., they didn't have enough money to film the whole concert in Vienna (there were only two other songs filmed, Shellshock and Vanishing Point that didn't make it into the final film) and also that they are still 'messing about' with the Alexandra Palace footage.

He also mentioned some other projects that he is working on with New Order, but wouldn't say any more than that, so I'm guessing its possible that either some of this years shows are being filmed,or he is/has been working on films to be back projected during these shows.

Ken Doherty wrote: So I finally got round to seeing this on Saturday at the Ace Hotel in Shoreditch: I'm glad I waited to see it on a reasonably sized screen at a decent volume rather than seeing it on YouTube (it wasn't exactly a THX setup but it was better than seeing it on a PC monitor or TV screen).

I enjoyed it but I wouldn't be in a rush to see it again: nice to see the interviews with the band, Peter Savile, Jon Savage & Co. but it seemed an awfully long time until we got to see a full song. I stuck round for the Q&A with Mike Christie afterwards, during which he mentioned that this won't get a download/dvd release until its been screened in the U.S., they didn't have enough money to film the whole concert in Vienna (there were only two other songs filmed, Shellshock and Vanishing Point that didn't make it into the final film) and also that they are still 'messing about' with the Alexandra Palace footage.

He also mentioned some other projects that he is working on with New Order, but wouldn't say any more than that, so I'm guessing its possible that either some of this years shows are being filmed,or he is/has been working on films to be back projected during these shows.

Thanks for this Ken, it's good to get the info regarding potential DVD release (or lack of) direct from Mike Christie I was fortunate to attend one of the MIF MCR shows & also the 2nd Vienna MIF gig - with 35-yrs of attending NO gigs, the MIF shows are absolutely right up there for me (still pushing artistic boundaries after all these years!) & for selfish reasons, I would love them to get a DVD release. The statement about not having enough money to film the whole of the Vienna concert is interesting as the cameras where certainly there/active throughout …….. to the detriment of audience view at times. I wonder if next years' Miami residency gives the band some scope for again devising something special with Christie?