I read somewhere that the lyrics of We All Stand were inspired by the 1982 Falklands/Malvinas war. First I thought it might be wrong. But then I realized that the first recording of WAS was in 1982 during the peel sessions 2. So maybe it wasn´t a lie and all that war situation in fact inspired Barney to write those lyrics. Anyone could confirm this (or not)?
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We All Stand and the Falklands/Malvinas war
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Just finished reading From JD to NO by Micky Middles (rereleased if any ones interested) In it they talk about BM being about the sinking of the Belgardo ( I see a ship in the harbour)
Hac Fac :)
Originally posted by The Hacienda must be (re)Built Just finished reading From JD to NO by Micky Middles (rereleased if any ones interested) In it they talk about BM being about the sinking of the Belgardo ( I see a ship in the harbour)Hac Fac :)
Really? (Actually the ship was the "Belgrano"). So it may not be that crazy after all. I really don´t know how much this war touched the british hearts. I do know how much it touched the argentinians hearts (as you see I put Falklands/Malvinas, we still can´t get over it). Maybe Barney felt something about it and wrote those lyrics. who knows?
I'd read something elsewhere about Blue Monday having allusions to the conflict in question. Can't remember where, though.
Malvinas is a much better name, by the by.
the belgrano sunk: sunday, may 2, 1982, 4PM (Arg), 8/9PM (UK) surely the news about this issue were written on monday. it´s possible that all this may be a coincidence but I guess we´re near the truth.
Just about every effing song that was written by a British artist around that time was somehow linked to the Falklands.
"Blue Monday" was an easy target because of the 'ship in the harbour' line, and "We All Stand" because it contains the word 'soldier'!
Originally posted by Old Blue Just about every effing song that was written by a British artist around that time was somehow linked to the Falklands."Blue Monday" was an easy target because of the 'ship in the harbour' line, and "We All Stand" because it contains the word 'soldier'!
I´m just asking because as I said before for us (argies) that war is such an issue that even is present in our life nowadays. As I don´t know how this affected the british people, the fact that Barney may have wrote something about it means quite a lot to me. Those lines may be quite obvious now if you think about it (ship, soldier) but I´ve never thought it could have anything to do with that war until now, 20 years later. If all of this is true then I can´t help thinking about how strange life is. Because when I think about me dancing to that song and not knowing the real meaning of it... I´m sorry, it´s a strange feeling for me. 
The truth is that I must listen more carefully from now on! 
Sorry, I was being flippant. Barney's lyrics are always open to interpretation, but We All Stand is quite clearly about a war. Whether or not it's about the Falklands is something that probably only the group themselves know, but it would obviously have been in his mind when he wrote it.
The war theme was of course carried on in Love Vigilantes, and you can all insert your own Retro comment!!!
I thought the story was that Blue Monday was going to be called How Does it Feel but they changed their mind cos of the Crass song How Does it Feel (to be the mother of a 1000 dead)?" (or something like that) which was directed at Thatcher and WAS about the Falklands Conflict.
i read about the falklands being what blue monday was about but i think barney denied it, also there was something about students being killed somewhere on a monday in the 50's i think? im not sure but there was speculation that this event also inspired the blue monday lyrics but we will never know the truth, in fact i think i read all of this in the middles book
I really never thought the band could have been bothered with writing lyrics about this conflict...seeing as they were so busy being Nazis and all... :p
quite an ambiguous lyrics! I read them again trying to see if the whole war issue could have been the inspiration of blue monday. and, yes, it could be. and could be not! there´re lines that perfectly suites into a war situation: "I see a ship in the harbor, I can and shall obey, But if it wasn't for your misfortunes I'd be a heavenly person today" could perfectly refer to the Belgrano sunk (and maybe not) with the notion that in a war I have to kill you before I get killed. "Those who came before me lived through their vocations from the past until completion, they'll turn away no more" could refer to the people who live in the islands. their presence there for years was the main fact that Thatcher had to demand sovereignty over the islands. "And I still find it so hard to say what I need to say, but I'm quite sure that she'll tell me just how I should feel today" who´s she? gillian? could be Thatcher.
I mean, blue monday might talk about the Falklands/Malvinas war. but also might talk about anything, really. who knows?
