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Let's see if we can make a list of things that will need a release someday... of material not available to the mass public (released on vinyl or in promo only) and very hard to find material.


Atmosphere - Peel Sessions 1998 Isolation - Peel Sessions 1998 True Faith - Peel Sessions 1998 Paradise - Peel Sessions 1998 Touched by the Hand of God - Peel Sessions 1998 Rock The Shack - Lamacq Sessions 2001 Your Silent Face - Lamacq Sessions 2001 Slow Jam - Lamacq Sessions 2001 Close Range - Lamacq Sessions 2001 True Faith (Morel Remixes) True Faith (Philip Steir Remixes) True Faith (Esecreamer (sp?) Mix & Dub) Vanishing Point (Making Out Mix) Ceremony (7" Version) Confusion (1990 Remixes) Regret (Weatherall Mixes in full) Vicious Circle (New Order Mix) Round & Round (Ben Grosse Mix) Round & Round (Merry-Go Mix) Fine Time (Prime Cuts Mix) World In Motion (1996 Remix) Touched by the Hand of God (Touched by the Hand of BIAS) Blue Monday (7" Japanese Edit) Sister Ray (Live in Sao Paulo) The Happy One Bizarre Love Triangle (Canadian 7" Edit) Ode To Joy Rocking Carol Confusion (Pump Panel Flotation Mix) Everything's Gone Green (Dave Clarke Mix) Everything's Gone Green (The Advent Remixes) Confusion (Rough Mix) Confusion (Original Extended) Shellshock (Full 12" Version) The Perfect Kiss (Full 12" Version) Hurt (12" Extended Version) Temptation (7" Version) Hurt (Edit) Thieves Like Us (Edit) Ceremony (Original without Gillian) Evil Dust Lonesome Tonight (Edit) Kiss of Death (Edit) Perfect Kiss (7" Edit) Perfect Pit Shellcock Shellshock (Video Mix) Subculture (Benelux 7" Edit) Subculture (Edit) Subculture (Exclusive Record Mirror Mix) Dub-Vulture Temptation (CJ Bolland Mix) True Faith (7" Mix) True Faith (Remix Edit) Best & Marsh (7" Edit) Blue Monday 95 (Harfloor Mix Edit from Wired) Blue Monday 95 (Harfloor Mix Edit) Blue Monday 95 (Plutone Mix Edit) Blue Monday 95 (Richie Hawtin Mix) - not Hawtin Mix! MTO MTO (Minus Mix) Round & Round (Chris Lord Alge Mix) Ruined in a Day (K-Klass Edit) Run 2 Run 2 (Extended Mix) Spooky (Especially Extended Out of Order Mix) Bizarre Dub Triangle

Alright, I don't want to too deep in the dubs... ;)

I know many people don't like edited version, but I find them useful when doing a CD and you want to put as many songs as you can :D

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look at that. and there wasn´t material for a more decent box set? come on!!!! this is for london records :finger:

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"I know many people don't like edited version, but I find them useful when doing a CD and you want to put as many songs as you can "

Hmmm... does this mean someone from this site is making a CD? An bootleg CD set filled with goodies for this Christmas?

You know, whoever has these tracks can transfer them to CD and make ALOT of money. I'd pay for them. You guys need to join forces and make a NOOL exclusive bootleg box set.

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Picky I know, but:

Vanishing Point (Making Out Mix) is on the regular UK Round & Round CD single.

Round & Round (Ben Grosse) is on the UK 3" Round & Remix CD Single.

Touched By The Hand Of BIAS is on a CD compilation called "Manchester United - Beyond The Promised Land"

Sister Ray (Live) was on "Like A Girl I Want You To Keep Coming" which was released on CD (though granted, it's probably quite rare).

Confusion (Rough Mix) is on the Arthur Baker Breakin compilation CD.

Confusion (Original) is going to be on Retro.

Hurt full version is on FEP313, released on CD in Canada!

Evil Dust is on the True Faith CDV and also a complilation CD of all the Funky Alternatives albums.

True Faith (Remix Edit) is on the True Faith CDV.

Best & Marsh 7" is on the Round & Round CD single. (It's the 12" version that's not on CD)

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I have nearly all of those tracks listed above, as Old Blue says, some are still available on CD if you look hard enough (such as even the Best & Marsh 12", on a Canadian CD single, I believe).

Anyway, my list of New Order tracks at http://www.morriso.btinternet.co.uk/NewOrderTrackList.html may be useful as to what's out on what formats, although I don't quite have everything, as you'll see at the bottom of the list.

In fact, I've got all but the new 'Confusion Remixes' burned to CD, via a Technics 1210 and a decent pre-amp, and very good they sound too!

Andy www.TrustNoOne.org.uk

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Ceremony 7" and the green 12" (whithout Gillian) are the same. This version is much more powerfull and bright than the cream/blue 12" (on substance) Also missing:confused beats, on substance the instrumental is called confused instrumental but according to the 12" it is confusion instrumental tracklisting of confusion 83 12": A Confusion/Confused beats B Confusion instrumental/Confusion rough mix

and True faith remix 87 (shep pettibone)one of their best 12" and Blue monday 88 one of their worst...

Appendix: 90's stuff stinks and most of their remixes are just ridiculous and should be forgotten. (heard EGG Dave clarck or BM95?..The worst Dj of the third world couldn't hear those shits)These guys should better have stopped everything after Low life..Be honnest, whithout Blue monday or Confusion in 83 no one would be talking about New Order in 2002. Now the best they have to do is called them back Joy Division, they are playing these old songs very well live and stops breaking ears with sequenced songs badly done live (BLT or TBTHOG for example) I have seen them in 89 for the fine time tour, the worst concert of my life.

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One thing to add to the "not on CD" list is the Sunrise Instrumental Rough Mix, only available on cassette.

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The Advent mix of EGG is on "Volume 15"

The Out of Order mix of Spooky is on "Vorsprung Dyk Technik"

Danke.

Dave.

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What's so special about Sister Ray live in Sao Paulo? :scratch:

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Be nice to see a compilation of their film soundtrack releases all on one CD wouldn't it

I for one only have a live version and an mp3 of Brutal, and have no plans to buy the 'Beach Soundtrack' anytime soon!!

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Originally posted by Al Jarvis What's so special about Sister Ray live in Sao Paulo? :scratch:

Absolutely nothing. It stinks. Not worth the electricity used to play it!

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Originally posted by Old Blue > Originally posted by Al Jarvis What's so special about Sister Ray live in Sao Paulo? :scratch:

Absolutely nothing. It stinks. Not worth the electricity used to play it!

Why's Nic listed it though? They must've played Sister Ray a dozen times - why pick this one? Did it get released on some compilation at some point?

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Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by Old Blue > Originally posted by Al Jarvis What's so special about Sister Ray live in Sao Paulo? :scratch:

Absolutely nothing. It stinks. Not worth the electricity used to play it!

Why's Nic listed it though? They must've played Sister Ray a dozen times - why pick this one? Did it get released on some compilation at some point?

Its on the Glasto '87 BBC thing isnt it??

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Originally posted by DoN Be nice to see a compilation of their film soundtrack releases all on one CD wouldn't itI for one only have a live version and an mp3 of Brutal, and have no plans to buy the 'Beach Soundtrack' anytime soon!!

Beach soundtrack available in Tesco for £4.99

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Originally posted by DoN > Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by Old Blue > Originally posted by Al Jarvis What's so special about Sister Ray live in Sao Paulo? :scratch:

Absolutely nothing. It stinks. Not worth the electricity used to play it!

Why's Nic listed it though? They must've played Sister Ray a dozen times - why pick this one? Did it get released on some compilation at some point?

Its on the Glasto '87 BBC thing isnt it??

Go to http://www.niagara.edu/neworder/compilations/lagiwtkyc.html. It's on a various artists compilation from a decade or so ago. I managed to find a CDcopy at an online record store last month, so it's not hard to get hold of. I wouldn't worry about chucking it on a future boxed set!

Andy.

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Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by Old Blue > Originally posted by Al Jarvis What's so special about Sister Ray live in Sao Paulo? :scratch:

Absolutely nothing. It stinks. Not worth the electricity used to play it!

Why's Nic listed it though? They must've played Sister Ray a dozen times - why pick this one? Did it get released on some compilation at some point?

Sorry, misunderstood what you meant. It's on a compilation called "Like A Girl I Want You To Keep Coming".

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Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by Old Blue > Originally posted by Al Jarvis What's so special about Sister Ray live in Sao Paulo? :scratch:

Absolutely nothing. It stinks. Not worth the electricity used to play it!

Why's Nic listed it though? They must've played Sister Ray a dozen times - why pick this one? Did it get released on some compilation at some point?

Well, uh, because it was officialy released on a CD somewhere.. nothing else...!!! don't go further...

I was trying to complete a list of rare or unavailable "released" material...

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Originally posted by The Hacienda must be (re)Built > Originally posted by DoN> Be nice to see a compilation of their film soundtrack releases all on one CD wouldn't it> > I for one only have a live version and an mp3 of Brutal, and have no plans to buy the 'Beach Soundtrack' anytime soon!!

Beach soundtrack available in Tesco for £4.99

Brutal is on Retro...

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Originally posted by DoN > Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by Old Blue > Originally posted by Al Jarvis What's so special about Sister Ray live in Sao Paulo? :scratch:

Absolutely nothing. It stinks. Not worth the electricity used to play it!

Why's Nic listed it though? They must've played Sister Ray a dozen times - why pick this one? Did it get released on some compilation at some point?

Its on the Glasto '87 BBC thing isnt it??

Nice avatar, Don. Reading 89 if I'm not mistaken?

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"Vanishing Point (Making Out Mix) is on the regular UK Round & Round CD single."

But is it findable?

"Round & Round (Ben Grosse) is on the UK 3" Round & Remix CD Single."

Same here..

"Touched By The Hand Of BIAS is on a CD compilation called "Manchester United - Beyond The Promised Land""

I know, but it's just buying a full compilation for one song :D

"Confusion (Rough Mix) is on the Arthur Baker Breakin compilation CD."

I knew it was released...

"Confusion (Original) is going to be on Retro."

God, I was sleepy...

"Hurt full version is on FEP313, released on CD in Canada!"

Really, let me check!! Now, where is the ashamed smiley, I have this!! :)

"Evil Dust is on the True Faith CDV and also a complilation CD of all the Funky Alternatives albums."

Ok for the compilation, but the VCD is not something very useful.

"True Faith (Remix Edit) is on the True Faith CDV."

It's also on the Bright Lights Big City soundtrack.

"Best & Marsh 7" is on the Round & Round CD single. (It's the 12" version that's not on CD)"

??? I have it on CD on my R&R CD5 !!

Ah.. I see, another canadian exclusive.. this I why it's on the bonus disc.. I was curious why they included that on the bonus disc ;)

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Uh.. add two things...

Theme (Homage to MGM) Haystack

I have a doubt here, is Homage and Theme two seperate things? :D

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Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by DoN> > > > Originally posted by Al Jarvis> > Originally posted by Old Blue > Originally posted by Al Jarvis What's so special about Sister Ray live in Sao Paulo? :scratch:

Absolutely nothing. It stinks. Not worth the electricity used to play it!

Why's Nic listed it though? They must've played Sister Ray a dozen times - why pick this one? Did it get released on some compilation at some point?

Its on the Glasto '87 BBC thing isnt it??

Nice avatar, Don. Reading 89 if I'm not mistaken?

Cheers, its from the front cover of my Lorely (spelling?) Festival bootleg from '93 , he's wearing a yellowish jumper. Was it not a shirt he wore at Reading '93 which he took off to reveal a t-shirt later on??

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Originally posted by DoN > > > Cheers, its from the front cover of my Lorely (spelling?) Festival bootleg from '93 , he's wearing a yellowish jumper. > Was it not a shirt he wore at Reading '93 which he took off to reveal a t-shirt later on??

Can't remember what he wore at Reading 93 (red shirt, maybe? That did a couple of gigs that year). Think your pic is Reading 89 where he wore a fawn crew-neck jumper with cut-down jeans. And he had that floppy haircut which went on to be so synonymous with the GAWI photo sessions (Barney with flicks!). I remember cos I went out and bought a fawn jumper which was very similar - but made by Appaloosa who were sponsoring the Mondays at the time.

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Originally posted by Spotnick "Vanishing Point (Making Out Mix) is on the regular UK Round & Round CD single."But is it findable?"Round & Round (Ben Grosse) is on the UK 3" Round & Remix CD Single."Same here.."Touched By The Hand Of BIAS is on a CD compilation called "Manchester United - Beyond The Promised Land""I know, but it's just buying a full compilation for one song :D"Confusion (Rough Mix) is on the Arthur Baker Breakin compilation CD." I knew it was released..."Confusion (Original) is going to be on Retro."God, I was sleepy..."Hurt full version is on FEP313, released on CD in Canada!"Really, let me check!! Now, where is the ashamed smiley, I have this!! :)"Evil Dust is on the True Faith CDV and also a complilation CD of all the Funky Alternatives albums." Ok for the compilation, but the VCD is not something very useful."True Faith (Remix Edit) is on the True Faith CDV."It's also on the Bright Lights Big City soundtrack."Best & Marsh 7" is on the Round & Round CD single. (It's the 12" version that's not on CD)"??? I have it on CD on my R&R CD5 !!Ah.. I see, another canadian exclusive.. this I why it's on the bonus disc.. I was curious why they included that on the bonus disc ;)

What's "not useful" about the TF CDV? You can put it in your CD player and listen to the audio, you know!!

Anyway, I thought this thread was about what stuff isn't on CD, not about how rare or desirable existing CD's are!

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Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by DoN> > > > > > > > Cheers, its from the front cover of my Lorely (spelling?) Festival bootleg from '93 , he's wearing a yellowish jumper. > > Was it not a shirt he wore at Reading '93 which he took off to reveal a t-shirt later on??>

Can't remember what he wore at Reading 93 (red shirt, maybe? That did a couple of gigs that year). Think your pic is Reading 89 where he wore a fawn crew-neck jumper with cut-down jeans. And he had that floppy haircut which went on to be so synonymous with the GAWI photo sessions (Barney with flicks!). I remember cos I went out and bought a fawn jumper which was very similar - but made by Appaloosa who were sponsoring the Mondays at the time.

Sounds about Right Al, I seem to recall a white shirt similar to Acadamy '87 (tho obviously not as tight!) was worn at Reading 93?? The red shirt - was that not the lumberjack affair he wore at the Montreaux Festival?

The actual pic the avatar is taken from isnt much bigger than the scan so its hard to tell much more to be honest! I'll have to check out the 89/93 videos now!

I always assumed it was from the Lorely Festival itself - although I know you were there and commented Reading,so obviously its not!! Incidently what was worn at that festival..?

And yes he's got a very 'early electronic' look about him hasnt he!

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Right. Mr Discography clears things up...

Based on my massive New Order collection (which you can read at http://www.morriso.btinternet.co.uk/NewOrderTrackList.html) I have compiled a list of stuff which I've never managed to track down on CD. I'm not even sure some of these tracks even exist, as a few are still in my "wants" list, even on vinyl. But I've been hunting in records shops and online for many years now, and have obtained all other tracks in CD versions.

Visit my list of New Order Tracks Only Available on Vinyl here.

Andy. http://www.TrustNoOne.org.uk

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Honestly can't remember what he wore at Lorelei - but that piccie's defo (well, 90% sure) Reading 89 as I remember it from the NME or somewhere.

He wore the lumberjack jobby at Dublin too - I've got pics to prove that!

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RELEASE THEM ALL!!!!!!!!!

No fan should be denied these tracks to be available on a remastered CD format!

GET IT DONE LONDON!!!!

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WATCHA GONNA DO WHEN THE NOVELTY HAS GONE? :drummer: ______________________________________________

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Originally posted by Andrew Morrison Right. Mr Discography clears things up...Based on my massive New Order collection (which you can read at http://www.morriso.btinternet.co.uk/NewOrderTrackList.html) I have compiled a list of stuff which I've never managed to track down on CD. I'm not even sure some of these tracks even exist, as a few are still in my "wants" list, even on vinyl. But I've been hunting in records shops and online for many years now, and have obtained all other tracks in CD versions.Visit my list of New Order Tracks Only Available on Vinyl here.Andy.http://www.TrustNoOne.org.uk

I think this list will be VERY useful to complete my discography.. Thanks Andrew.. I have the permission to lurk and lurn?

:thumb:

P/S: Buy the WIM Canadian CD, you'll remove a few from your list ;)

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Does the NewOrder Interview disc count?? it wasnt an 'official' neworder release yet i bought my copy from Tower Records!

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