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Spent the best part of yesterday listening to the 'rarities' CD and it was first time that I really had a sustained listen to this version.
Maybe it's the unfamiliarity but I think it's the best version yet. Well for 4 minutes anyway. Defo if it was the full 7-8 minute version.
Anyone else agree or am I committing New Order sacrilege?
I agree this is a superb version
Finally got my hands on a decent copy on vid....if yer after a copy send me an e-mail shugsludden@hotmail.com
Other favourites of this masterpiece would be Saturday Sessions from 84, Academy 87 and Reading 98.
Yes it's the best version, as it was the way they made it sound in 1998 when they came back...
And it's the only real edited version, which is perfect to listen too..
Fortunatly, it's now widely available.
And no, it's not the version they did live, this is a studio version, apparently, only Bernard wasn't faking it on stage when they did it live ;)
I have 5 studio versions and although the 12" is my all-time favourite and second (and probably the least known) is the August '84 BBC studio version, I fully agree that '98 is superb and shows more polish and, dare I say it, maturity than the earlier efforts.
'shows more polish and, dare I say it, maturity than the earlier efforts.'
Which is why it's worthless ! The original 7" has more dignity and 'real' emotion in it than all the other versions put together.
my fave is the 12" followed closly by the saturday morning sessions, i havent heard the studio version of '98, only the live one is it really that good?
Thanks Bill! Agree with your comments on the 7" too, '98 is just different. 12" is still King, 'though! ;-)
Yeh, it's pretty smashing all right. The original 7" and 12" versions are still the ones for me too, but this is definitely up there. It's just groovier
Temptation 12" version is my all-time favorite song. I do enjoy listening to the Taras Shevchenko and 98 versions. I have a "Temptation CD" where I have every version of temptation I can get a hold of. The first three versions on the disc are Taras Shevchenko, 12", and then 98. I did this because I thought it was a great representation of the development of the song and the band.
Originally posted by frank smarra my fave is the 12" followed closly by the saturday morning sessions, i havent heard the studio version of '98, only the live oneis it really that good?
It has a similar feel to the 1987 version but adds the great keyboard arpeggios from the 1982 version in spots. It doesn't fade in but starts with a click track (presumably turned up loud for Stephens benefit for he is deuf).
The '98 version fucking rocks!!! Barney's vocals are immortal, especially those "greeeeeeeey" eyes. And Hooky's bass is peerless......
Was anyone at this concert?
Did they play any other songs aside from Temptation, seems a lot of equipment and effort for just one song 
Shame they had to cut out parts of the video with pictures of cyclists and runners etc... still it was for the athletics i guess.
Still be nice to have an unedited copy though ;)
Originally posted by DoN Was anyone at this concert?Did they play any other songs aside from Temptation, seems a lot of equipment and effort for just one song
It was just a one-song mime wasn't it ?
Originally posted by Benny's Cobweb Eyes
It was just a one-song mime wasn't it ?
Yep. I'd booked the Monday arvo off to go to Manchester but then it turned out New Order would be on at 1pm or something. So didn't bother travelling. You can see Stash in the vid of Temptation 98. Think he's taking pictures? Can't remember who he's stood with but off the top of me head I think it was John and Roger.
Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by Benny's Cobweb Eyes
It was just a one-song mime wasn't it ?
Yep. I'd booked the Monday arvo off to go to Manchester but then it turned out New Order would be on at 1pm or something. So didn't bother travelling. You can see Stash in the vid of Temptation 98. Think he's taking pictures? Can't remember who he's stood with but off the top of me head I think it was John and Roger.
Bit of a scam! i'd be a little pissed off if i travelled up there to see them mime one song
WHY THE BLOODY HELL ISN'T THERE A 20 MINUTE '98 VERSION OF THIS DIVINE SONG?? CHEATING SWINDLING CHEAPSKATES!!!! GRRRR!
My list:
1-TEMPTATION 87 (Edit) from the 24hpp ost 2-TEMPTATION 12" 3-TEMPTATION 98 4-TEMPTATION from Glastonbury 87 (BBC live) 5-TEMPTATION 7" 6-TEMPTATION from Retro Live Disc (don't remeber when and where it was recorded)
Which live versions does he say we've got "grey fookin' eyes" or green fookin' eyes or whatever!
Im sure its on a video of mine, could be acadamy video but i dont think theres swearing on that
Originally posted by DoN Which live versions does he say we've got "grey fookin' eyes" or green fookin' eyes or whatever!Im sure its on a video of mine, could be acadamy video but i dont think theres swearing on that
Most of them - or "the last fookin' time".
Originally posted by Benny's Cobweb Eyes > Originally posted by DoN> Which live versions does he say we've got "grey fookin' eyes" or green fookin' eyes or whatever!> > Im sure its on a video of mine, could be acadamy video but i dont think theres swearing on that
Most of them - or "the last fookin' time".
Yea or that ;) but any in particular you can remember! i always listen out for temptation swearing when i watch a live performance but he never seems to swear! the fooking basta'd !!! ;)
The 98 version is good, but he never sings the 'bolts from up above' part, and that's one of my favorite lines.
Originally posted by Monkeys in a Bubble The 98 version is good, but he never sings the 'bolts from up above' part, and that's one of my favorite lines.
"thoughts from above hurt the people down below" ;)
