hearing people say how much they dislike the remix of 'subculture' on substance--and thinking about how much i actually like it, even prefer it to the low-life version-- makes me wonder: is there any remix you prefer to the original album track? if so, why?
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I'm also a fan of the remix of Sub Culture. I also prefer the BLT Substance remix to the original on Brotherhood.
I like the 12" versio of TPK, but that's about it. That horrible remix of Sub-culture almost completely ruined NO for me.
:( anita, still disgusted
the perfect kiss remix is the best one for me..
there is a 'subculture' remix that is better than the album version (it's not really technically 'offical' though)..
although i do like the subvulture remix, and sometimes the 12" mix, if i don't think of it as being by new order..
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I like the Substance version of Subculture, though I still prefer the Low-life version.
The 1994 Best Of version of BLT is my favourite one of this song. The Shep Pettibone (Substance) mix comes second, and the album version is my least favourite version of it.
The single version (is it the minimix?) of Spooky is better than the album one. In fact, most remixes of Spooky are great.
There is salso a ermix of Round & Round (the Club mix or the Detroit mix, can't remember) that I find better than the original one.
As for the rest, I can't think of any other song improved by remixing.
- "Lee Coombs Mix" is cool, very cool, but not better than Crystal original (very hard to be, I think).
- Any Confusion remix is greater than original.
- Somenone Like You, in 60 Miles An Hour CD single (2nd track, I don't remember its name)is fantastic, better than album version.
Stop the press!!!
As far as I know, TPK 12" IS NOT a remix, it's the original version, and the version on Low Life is an edit of it.
The only official TPK remixes are Kiss of Death and Perfect Pit. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
So very surprised there are people that actually likes Sub-Culture version on Substance... 
If there is any remix I prefer better than the original mix? Hard to say... perhaps "Regret - New Order Mix", since it's a remix done by themselves, and it looks like an extended-psychodelic mix... :\pimp3:
From what I recall, there was supposed to be another track on Low-Life, but they put a version of Perfect Kiss instead for some reason (I think it was in Brian Edge's book, I'll check when I come home), so that version definitely came later. As for remixes in general, some of them are very good, but they don't better the original. A mere good craftsman cannot better the work of a genius.
So far all of the remixes I like has been mentioned ( Regret Fire Island, BLT Pettibone, Crystal Lee Cooombs ) .....but what about SPOOKY - Stadium Mix by Tony Garcia..... i thought this remix has additional urgency to the beat...
As far as I know, TPK 12" IS NOT a remix, it's the >original version, and the version on Low Life is an edit >of it.
The only official TPK remixes are Kiss of Death and >Perfect Pit. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
from the claude flowers book: 'the narrator concluded, 'now i know the perfect kiss, is the kiss of death'. this all-important verse, the one which defined 'the perfect kiss', had to be cut to fit the lengthy song on the album'..
and yes, there are several other mixes:
- the 7" remix
- the 7" inst
- the video edit
- the full video version (different from 'retro')
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Originally posted by -1 >As far as I know, TPK 12" IS NOT a remix, it's the >original version, and the version on Low Life is an edit >of it.>The only official TPK remixes are Kiss of Death and >Perfect Pit. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.from the claude flowers book:'the narrator concluded, 'now i knowthe perfect kiss, is the kiss of death'.this all-important verse, the one whichdefined 'the perfect kiss', had to be cutto fit the lengthy song on the album'..and yes, there are several other mixes:- the 7" remix- the 7" inst- the video edit- the full video version (different from 'retro')later| | || || |||ne gativ e 1
And by the way, my friend Less Than Zero, when are you gonna put those on-line?? I'm dying to hear them... 
I did have something to say on the topic. But for now I shall just apologise for knackering this fine thread. :(
The Perfecto Mix of World is indeed a million times better than the original version. I sometimes think that Paul Oakenfold and Steve Osbourne should have been the ones producing this album.
The K-Klass remic of Ruined In A Day (Re-united in a Day) is a favourite with me. Does anyone know what the difference is in the Touched by the Hand of Bias mix of TBTHOG is like, you know the one on the Manure album. Being an Arsenal fan I dont really want to buy that CD !
to flip the subject: does anyone else find the remix of 'regret' on the 'retro' club CD particularly yucky?
i understand that the 12" of TPK is even longer than the one that appears on Substance. its one of my faves... as for remixes that are better than the originals: Regret (Fire Island mix) Crystal (Lee Coombes mix) and i dunno if this counts but i'll put it in anyway :) She's Lost Control (12" version)
cheers.
Originally posted by AgentWood to flip the subject: does anyone else find the remix of 'regret' on the 'retro' club CD particularly yucky?
uh oh! i think you've opened a can of worms here... ;) just like the remix of Subculture (which i hate), i know a lot of people hate the Sabres Slow n' Low remix to Regret. i have to say i like it. i like that dubby-reggae feel to it, just like the Andrea remix of Blue Monday, they go together very well. cheers.
Originally posted by Steven Morgan Does anyone know what the difference is in the Touched by the Hand of Bias mix of TBTHOG is like, you know the one on the Manure album. Being an Arsenal fan I dont really want to buy that CD !
It's a way different mix, starts a bit ambient and then goes a bit techno. Quite good as it happens.
On the subject of Reunited, that's probably my favourite remix, and there is an instrumental version of it that is well worth tracking down.
I know this one can be heavily debated on either side but I like BLT on substance versus the Brotherhood version.
i always preferred the Brothers in Rhythm mix of World. also the Fluke mix of Spooky is great. Shame Of The Nation is better than State IMO. generally not a fan of remixes though.
Originally posted by Dufford Charleywood Evil Dust, the re-mix of 'Angel Dust'A very fine effort it is.
Even though I think the Substance version of TPK is definitive, I love "Kiss of Death". The beginning, when all the layers come in at once makes it so much more urgent and exciting.
Round and Round 12", better than the album edit...the same with Sub-Culture (Substance mix better).
Originally posted by AgentWood hearing people say how much they dislike the remix of 'subculture' on substance--and thinking about how much i actually like it, even prefer it to the low-life version-- makes me wonder: is there any remix you prefer to the original album track? if so, why?
i also love the Substance mix of Sub-Culture. it's a camp classic!
Remixes that are better than the original in my opinion:
- Confusion (Koma & Bones Vocal Mix)
- The Perfect Kiss (Hot Tracks Mix)
- Shellshock (the long one)
- Bizarre Love Triangle '94
- Touched By The Hand Of God (Biff & Memphis Remix)
- Round & Round (Detroit Mix)
- Vanishing Point (Making Out Mix)
- World In Motion (1996 Remix)
- Regret (New Order Mix)
- World (Perfecto Mix)
- Ruined In A Day (K-Klass Mix)
- Spooky (Stadium Mix)
- Here To Stay (Felix Da Housecat Mix) = depends on the mood
The SLY remix on 60 Miles An Hour CD1 (??...The same CD as Sabotage, anyway), I think it's possibly called the Funk DeVoid remix or something... That's a good un.
