Up, down, turn around, please don't let me hit the ground....

Question time: What do you all consider New Order's finest moment on record? I'd have to go with Temptation (either version will do, but I fell for the 87 one first, so that's what I'm referencing). Granted Blue Monday was their breakthrough, but Temptation still has the ability to get a hold of my emotions and not let go until the last note. Well, that's my pick, what about you?

Blue Monday was the first new order song i heard and was the reason i started listening to them, so thats my choice. OK so 1994 was a bit late but i can't help only being 3 years old when blue monday came out!

I only really got into New Order in 1998 (I'd heard of them but only knew them from Regret. It helped having a college roomate obsessed with the Eighties.), so don't slag yourself. Blue Monday's a good song, but overall, like I said, it's Temptation all the way for me.

Can't pick one, really... Maybe Temptation. But it's too darn difficult.

temptation is special for me because i nearly cried at reading 98 when all the crowd was doing the ooooh ooooh oooooh bit. It was the first time i saw them live and it was also my 18th birthday. what a day!

If Reprise had released Get Ready a week ago instead of tomorrow, it would've been on my birthday (Oct. 9), but alas, they went with the 16th. I hope I at least get to see them live should they do a proper tour of the States next year.

i saw them at Reading 98, Manchester 98 and Manchester the other week. Got some great photo's that i'll scan in soon.

i can never really make up my mind about these things, but i`ll stick me neck out and say that its between procession, temptation, perfect kiss(especially the pots and pan percussion) and vanishing point.

ha ha... pots and pans percussion. Perfect.

The most amusing part of that video: Barney picks up a cowbell and starts beating on it with a drumstick. Leave to the pioneers of modern dance music to use diverse instrumentation!

PS, just went over to Rolling Stone.com, they've got a pretty nice review of Get Ready. Click on the Ozzy link, that's the second review.

"thieves like us" is wonderful too and "cries and whispers" but in a really creepy way. its hard too choose but theres one track which a lot of people seem to rate that definitely doesnt get my vote; the incrediby naff "mr disco".

Never heard "Mr. Disco", as I have still yet to purchase Technique (I assure you I'll pick it up at some point)

even though i have an unfortunate taste for cheesy music, mr disco is just too much for me. it borders on boyband in its sentiments..

Well, as a founding member of the Backstreet Boys (I was the wierd kid; they kicked me out when I interuppted a concert and started reading the Great Gatsby), I am offended by your comments about cheesy music. Our sentiments were genunine....okay I made all that up, but you knew that already

Technique is the best album. Is it just me or does Mr Disco borrow the bass line from state of the nation? and while i'm on the subject isn't the bass riff in vicious circle identical to the one in sweet lips?

..speaking of boybands i was fucking overjoyed to learn that the fat one in nsync is actually called fat one..

Mr Disco is just fantastic... the best part is the last lines whispered...

Originally posted by NEW 0RDER isn't the bass riff in vicious circle identical to the one in sweet lips?

I think so.. I remember Hooky stating in an interview (maybe it wasn't about sweet lips but wdywfm?) that he had found the bassline on "som old demo lying around"...

I think, had Barney posed for Tiger Beat back in the early 80s, New Order could've been pin-ups on the level of the New Kids On the Block and New Edition. Of course, does anyone remember New Edition?

seems that in the 80s anything was possible...i mean simon lebon was a fucking pin up, and he`s one hell of a munter.

Just think,..."Exclusive to Seventeen: Barney Sumner of New Order talks about his 'Blue Mondays'; Inside Peter's bedroom; what does Stephen look for in a mate?; Gillian keeps it real"

The title to a Styx song comes to mind regarding my imagination: Too Much Time On My Hands

Oh, right now I've gotta go with Temptation. This is due to the fact that way back when this song was first released on import, but not in the U.S., me and a couple of friends would always call up KBVR in Corvallis and have them play that song at least once a day on the air until we could get our own copies of the record(there may have been college radio around here when Ceremony and Movement came out, but I wasn't aware of it).

Originally posted by Taboo # 7 Never heard "Mr. Disco", as I have still yet to purchase Technique (I assure you I'll pick it up at some point)

In a way, I think it's great. Sometimes, I would like to never have seen some of my favorite films, read some of my fave books, heard some of my fave records.

Just listen to Technique for the 1st time again... You're a lucky bastard, Taboo7.

Originally posted by NEW 0RDER Technique is the best album. Is it just me or does Mr Disco borrow the bass line from state of the nation? and while i'm on the subject isn't the bass riff in vicious circle identical to the one in sweet lips?

You're perfectly right, New... erm... Order. I noticed that State Of The Nation/Mr Disco connection for years and was a little surprised no one ever mentioned it.

I knew having the name 'New 0rder' was going to get confusing.... time for a change i think...

Originally posted by Taboo # 7 Never heard "Mr. Disco", as I have still yet to purchase Technique (I assure you I'll pick it up at some point)

(GASPS IN HORROR AT THE FACT THAT TABOO #7 HASN`T GOT TECHNIQUE BECAUSE THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT EVER!)

The best piece of Order vinyl has to be the Thieves Like Us/Lonesome Tonight 12" - surely nothing can surpass this moment of glory?

Originally posted by Mr Disco The best piece of Order vinyl has to be the Thieves Like Us/Lonesome Tonight 12" - surely nothing can surpass this moment of glory?

Probably...

Originally posted by Mr Disco The best piece of Order vinyl has to be the Thieves Like Us/Lonesome Tonight 12" - surely nothing can surpass this moment of glory?

I agree with this; as a package you could buy off the shelf, this has to be one their greatest moments. That they released this utter gem which has touched so many of us, and yet not make it a big deal, is what NO are all about to me. But does anyone remember a one-off tv programme back in the mid 80's (I think it was) about NO and Factory ? I can't remember the name but as it ended they showed NO playing TLU live (could've been in the Hac?) and switched the scenes from the group to a backdrop of Manchester country-side and inner city. If you can imagine the intro with just the drum beat at first and then those majestic synths coming in while we're looking at the hills and woodland surrounding Manchester and then cutting back to an electrifying, tense and almost solemn atmosphere inside the gig, then Barny opening the lines with "I've lived... I've lived... I've lived... " before beginning the song proper. It was just fantastic. All four just playing their instruments as if totally dedicted to the task; Hooky, still, head bowed over his bass and pulsing to the sway of the rythmn, Stephen still sweating from a previous number even though this was an easier one to play, Gillian wearing a frock, one hand leant over the keyboards and the other playing those melodies with all the confidance of a first -timer, and Barney, white t-shirt, shorts, yellow id band, eyes closed and both hands on the mike, trying but failing to look as if he doesn't give a damn. Seem to recall Barney ad-libbing near the end of the song, just before he decides to take off his guitar,drop it to the ground and walk off leaving the others to finish off the song. Genius.

But I have to say my personal favourite will remain Procession. Probably the first NO song I heard, probably courtesy of Peely.

Oh, and although it's a different thread, Shadowplay (live version on Still) for me has to be the most electrifying bass Hooky's played.

Originally posted by Jaswinder Jassal > Originally posted by Mr Disco> The best piece of Order vinyl has to be the Thieves Like Us/Lonesome Tonight 12" - surely nothing can surpass this moment of glory?

I agree with this; as a package you could buy off the shelf, this has to be one their greatest moments. That they released this utter gem which has touched so many of us, and yet not make it a big deal, is what NO are all about to me. But does anyone remember a one-off tv programme back in the mid 80's (I think it was) about NO and Factory ? I can't remember the name but as it ended they showed NO playing TLU live (could've been in the Hac?) and switched the scenes from the group to a backdrop of Manchester country-side and inner city. If you can imagine the intro with just the drum beat at first and then those majestic synths coming in while we're looking at the hills and woodland surrounding Manchester and then cutting back to an electrifying, tense and almost solemn atmosphere inside the gig, then Barny opening the lines with "I've lived... I've lived... I've lived... " before beginning the song proper. It was just fantastic. All four just playing their instruments as if totally dedicted to the task; Hooky, still, head bowed over his bass and pulsing to the sway of the rythmn, Stephen still sweating from a previous number even though this was an easier one to play, Gillian wearing a frock, one hand leant over the keyboards and the other playing those melodies with all the confidance of a first -timer, and Barney, white t-shirt, shorts, yellow id band, eyes closed and both hands on the mike, trying but failing to look as if he doesn't give a damn. Seem to recall Barney ad-libbing near the end of the song, just before he decides to take off his guitar,drop it to the ground and walk off leaving the others to finish off the song. Genius.

But I have to say my personal favourite will remain Procession. Probably the first NO song I heard, probably courtesy of Peely.

Oh, and although it's a different thread, Shadowplay (live version on Still) for me has to be the most electrifying bass Hooky's played.

Shadowplay recorded at Granada (with the weird video Genlocking) is my fave ever JD track. Jarvo, you must remember this one...

Thieves/lonesome is fantastic! I've got the Murder/Thieves instrumental slipped inside the same plastic sleeve. Would have been released as a double pack today but having the black and white sleeves is a bonus.

Nicolas, I have to agree 100% about the perfect kiss part. I was just listening to this with headphones the other day and it blew me away AGAIN! The energy they create to end the track still sends shocks through my body. All Day Long is the Unsung Hero of the Neworder catalogue. The way the synths build, the electro-ish drum beat, the guitar..."this is a song about the innocent..."

I HATE "All Day Long" !!!!! More than I hate Vale even.

WHY?

Originally posted by brian geoghagan WHY?

Always have, just an irrational thing I guess. Probably stems from them playing it at a gig when I wanted to hear something else in the "5th/6th song slowie bit". I probably had a bet on Lonesome Tonight or something.

Unless you meant why do I hate Vale ? :)

Could you give it another chance? Play Lonesome Tonight followed by All Day Long and witnes the joy. Both songs are good but you owe it to your own unknown pleasures to give it a second chance.

Originally posted by brian geoghagan Could you give it another chance? Play Lonesome Tonight followed by All Day Long and witnes the joy. Both songs are good but you owe it to your own unknown pleasures to give it a second chance.

It's had 15 years to win me over, and failed every time.

BEST NEW ORDER SONG? COME ON! THAT'S A TOUGH ONE. Trying to pick the best one from this following list is like trying to decide which of your dearly loved ones you want to push off a cliff first. Not an easy task!!

Bizarre Love Triangle / Thieves Like Us / Perfect Kiss / 1963 / Loveless / Your Silent Face / Lonesome Tonight / All Day Long / Vanishing Point / Ceremony (1st version)

What....? No "Blue Monday"????!!!

Originally posted by Nicolas LeBlanc Then again, all songs have their "moment", I enjoy SO MUCH the music on All Day Long for instance, Elegia is a pure musical gem... /b]

Yeah - ALL DAY LONG - one of many gems on BROTHERHOOD that adhered to the indefatiguable New Order blueprint of having a BIG ENDING..... (That's EIGHT SONGS OUT OF TEN on the CD [ including the rather lyrically crap "State Of The Nation" that is]). Which other New Order album has so many Big Endings???

I love "All Day Long" and, as I often said, 'Brotherhood' is my favorite NO album...

All Day Long has, to me, the same kind of musical feeling as Your Silent Face.

Erm... You can see I'm getting tired with quotes...

All Day Long . Gorgeous track.The work of genius.It is not wise to blaspheme against All Day Long.

Originally posted by chris p All Day Long . Gorgeous track.The work of genius.It is not wise to blaspheme against All Day Long.

:\ohwell: :headoff: :\puke: It would have been a decent instrumental maybe.

Oh Lord!! He Giveth the TRUTH with one hand, but taketh the piss with thine other. "All Day Long" is just wonderful; just a pity the pisspot production that dogs "Brotherhood" clouds the symphonic little gem.

But as for The Shite, Mr Jauncey, never, ever in your life will you be more righteous.

Amen.

M.

If we're talking Brotherhood then surely As It Is When It Was has to get a look in ?? It's Pure NewOrder. And they seem to reach another state of being when they play this live. This is the only reason I ever put Brotherhood on! (oops)

Originally posted by Martin Gray > Originally posted by Nicolas LeBlanc> > Then again, all songs have their "moment", I enjoy SO MUCH the music on All Day Long for instance, Elegia is a pure musical gem... /b]

Yeah - ALL DAY LONG - one of many gems on BROTHERHOOD that adhered to the indefatiguable New Order blueprint of having a BIG ENDING..... (That's EIGHT SONGS OUT OF TEN on the CD [ including the rather lyrically crap "State Of The Nation" that is]). Which other New Order album has so many Big Endings???

"Big songs... Small dicks"