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What's the worst or less good New Order song ?

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That's a tricky one, isn't ? I don't know if I have a worst one but I'm not crazy about "State Of The Nation". Especially at the end of "Brotherhood". I mean, on the Vinyl, "Every Little Counts" closed the album and it was a perfect ending. If I listen to the CD, I have to program it so that the right song ends it.

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Fine Time gets my vote; although State Of the Nation looks bad in comparison to what's around it on Substance, when you take it out of that context, it's not so bad.

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I would say Fine Time too.....

I actually really like State of the Nation.

Liv :angel:

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Thanks for that agreement. Usually when I say something critical about Technique, the response I get is very pro-Technique.

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I think the trouble is, NewOrder don't do bad songs, they do "ordinary" ones. Out of lots of ordinary songs are some sublime ones, but there aren't any bad ones I can think of.

Fine Time isn't bad...just different.

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That's a good point. It's not really bad New Order songs. But there are songs that you can more emotionnally relate to.

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I agree about the emotional side of some songs being stronger than others. For instance I don't think you could say "Chemical" off Republic was a typical NO emotionally blessed song. In actual fact it was a very average one by their standards. Just blame the lyrics on the Factory mess.

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Brutal

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My least favorite song is Bizarre Love Triangle, and the reason may seem quite silly, but it's because that's the only one that gets any airplay here in Dallas. There are so many others that deserve airplay, but they just don't do it...maybe that will change with the new release. I am also very, oh, disappointed, with the fact that so many of these idiots down here don't realize that Blue Monday is NOT an original song by Orgy...agggghhhhh

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State of the Nation and Shellshock. Reminds me of bad rap music from that time period.

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I would have to say the Christmas carol is their worst song :)

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Let's see...

I've never been particularly fond of Shellshock.

I don't like Chemical or Liar from Republic.

And I don't really like Ultraviolence and Ecstacy from Power, Corruption and Lies.

I think this topic would make a great question for our very first poll once our polling/voting booth section is opened.

Seb.

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I don't really understand how Shellshock would be on anybody's worst-of list. It's probably in my top ten or better. Particularly the lyrics. "It's never enough until your heart stops beating" for me is up there with "Oh you've got green eyes, oh you've got blue eyes, oh you've got grey eyes."

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Worst song has to be 'Rock Shack' - downloaded samples from this website, is this really going to go on commercial release? - come on everyone, it can't be just me that thinks this song isn't NO at all.

Barney always used to say they'd give up once they got too old. After listening to ALL of the album samples they sound surprisingly on-form (given the amount of time out of it and some material on Republic) but what's this 'Rock Shack' business???

I'm reading some of the topics in this post and people are saying that it might not be released... well let's hope this is correct, after all, can you name another band that has a perfect record for releasing only quality songs time after time (like has been said - nothing bad, just not as good) - however, could 'Rock Shack' spoil this???

Anybody out there ever heard 'Love Dance' - a promo from about 1985/6'ish. Had this on bootleg, a classic I'd say, and definately one to try to get hold of.

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'Run' is dreadful. It's New Order at their most wimpy and banal. Why so many people like it is beyond me. I would never have put on an LP, let alone the best of. Give me 'Thieves like us' anyday.

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I love "Run", it's one of my favorites, actually. But that's the fun of this topic, you know, on a fansite, to ask about what fans don't like... :-)

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Originally posted by Dan Morton 'Run' is dreadful. It's New Order at their most wimpy and banal. Why so many people like it is beyond me. I would never have put on an LP, let alone the best of. Give me 'Thieves like us' anyday.

Wow, I'm quite surprised to see you back here. I thought you hated this website?

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Originally posted by Geoffroy Klompkes I love "Run", it's one of my favorites, actually. ____________________GeoffroyK

I agree, Run is one of my faves too.... One of my friends who is also a fan, tells me that she hates that track, it always surprises me, i think its a good typical NO track. I like it...

Liv :angel:

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The question here is 'what is your least favorite New Order song'. So why does everybody here refer to lyrics. I just think it's interesting. There are quite a few New Order songs with terrible singing and lyrics, but have beautiful instrumentals and I'll listen to them for that. Like 'Thieves Like Us'. I always listen to the intro, and then skip to the next track as soon as Barney starts singing. And 'Run'. You might not like the lyrics, and thats fine. But you have to listen to those kick ass drums, and the keyboards, and that guitar duet thing towards the end. Some of you only appreciate the lyrical portion of there songs and thats sad.

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The ones I don't like are definitely not because of the lyrics.

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I didn't like most of 'Republic'. I'm not sure if it was Hague's dated production or what - 'Regret' was excellent though.

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Least favorite New Order tracks..

Let's see, there is many I can't listen too often, because listening to them a lot means suffering, while listening to them once in a while is ok.

I don't like :

Angel Dust

I don't like too much

Blue Monday Fine Time Shellshock Everything's Gone Green 586 We All Stand

And the list can go on.. I don't like 50% of Movement & PC&L.. I like 75% of Low-Life, 90% of Brotherhood and 95% of all the rest..

Not so bad.

I do prefer to talk about the songs that I like. For some reason, Blue Monday is not one of my favorite, even if it's New Order's biggest hit to date (and I doubt anything on Get Ready will beat that)... I don't hate it, It's just a track I don't listen too much, like Fine Time..

There might be others.. but well, I hate to talk about what I don't like about New Order.. there is so many good songs.. and pure gems that are unknown to those who don't possess the albums, that it's difficult to discuss bad songs.

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I love Run, especially the mandolin part at the end - very cool and very original. The only other great song that I can think of with mandolin is "Losing my Religion" by REM.

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In reply to the first post, i have Brotherhood on Lp and CD and both end with Every Little Counts. Did they reissue this album with the extra track (and tacky badge)? As for my least favorite, Run Wild on Get Ready would do just fine. The interview at dotmusic praised the song but any time singers start talking about Jesus i lose interest....musically the song is good but the chorus wrecks the track.

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Originally posted by brian geoghagan In reply to the first post, i have Brotherhood on Lp and CD and both end with Every Little Counts. Did they reissue this album with the extra track (and tacky badge)? As for my least favorite, Run Wild on Get Ready would do just fine. The interview at dotmusic praised the song but any time singers start talking about Jesus i lose interest....musically the song is good but the chorus wrecks the track.

One day, we'll finish the discography... :D

Well, there is some extra tracks on many CD release.. the canadian CD has State of the Nation and the Bizarre Love Triangle Shep Pettibone Mix as extra tracks for instance.

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BRIAN - would you say that Mr. Disco had a naff chorus also? - such a beatiful verse, but the chorus, dear me.

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i've always enjoyed Mr.Disco. I find my self singing it from time to time and it brings me some joy. Technique came out around the time i got my drivers liscense and that tape got worn to bits in the cassette deck. I read something about Mr.Disco in the literature section here i believe. Vanishing point, Dream Attack (my favorite) Run... more lyrics from Run Wild...

Far and wide? Sweet and simple jehova knows that i've been sinful but if jesus comes to take your hand i wont let go

i'm trying to look past the lyrics because the music is so nice to this track but its not easy...i keep expecting Barney to sing
the chorus to Movin On Up by Primal Scream

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I don't like any of the songs on movement, except 'Dreams Never End'. I listened to Movement at the CD store, and I didn't even buy it. The only album I don't own.

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Chosen Time - A classic!!

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yep! it's got to be state of the nation for me. it's funny though good or bad songs can be the complete opposite when it comes to a live perfomance. i think almost everyone can agree on that one. i think temptation is a great song, but i get bored when i hear it live.

i don't like the song prodical son, but that's electronic.

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Originally posted by g05 yep! it's got to be state of the nation for me.

I cant't beleive so many people dislike State of the nation, I seriously would put that only list of top 10 New Order songs....

Liv :angel:

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Originally posted by Robert Roy I love Run, especially the mandolin part at the end - very cool and very original. The only other great song that I can think of with mandolin is "Losing my Religion" by REM.

Actually, it's not a mandolin on Run - just an acoustic 12-string guitar. Spot on about REM though - top tune CTD :cool:

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I love Run, especially the mandolin part at the end - very cool and very original. The only other great song that I can think of with mandolin is "Losing my Religion" by REM.

Actually, it's not a mandolin on Run - just an acoustic 12-string guitar. Spot on about REM though - top tune CTD :cool:

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As I tried to say before, the least greatest NO song for mine is either "Hurt" or "Confusion", although both have sadly appropriate titles.

Oh, and thats not a mandolin at the end of Run either - it's an acoustic 12-string guitar. :cool: CTD

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Originally posted by Nicolas LeBlanc [Content deleted by Nicolas LeBlanc on 8/12/01 1:04:56 AM EDT]

Man, that was an insightful message.

AH!

Thank God Candy The Dog (it rhymes!) came back. :D

Seb.

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Liv - rest assured State of the Nation is one of New Order's crowning glories. It is a superb song, so intense its unreal. The singing is excellent, most probably down to the recording technique (i.e. the close-to-Barney's mouth raw vocal mic.) - the throbbing bass is excellent, Hooky's on-form and the fucking keyboards at the beginning sned shivers down my spine! -

Even Shame of the Nation, I put that on nowadays and it still sounds fresh. Did you ever see them play SOFN on The Tube? - Barney had a long yellow jumper on and looked about 10 year old... magic.

State of the Nation is a CLASSIC New Order track.

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Hunter, Well, im glad to see im not the only person who appreciates a classic. I totally get the spine shivers bit, I fucking love this track, makes me go all tingly when i hear it. I get the same effect from 1963 if im in the right mood.... Liv :angel:

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Spot on Liv and Nicholas (sorry that I kept calling you Hunter before but I thought that that was your first name). SOTN is a real tough track and perfect for the time when it was released - the NO gigs at the time were getting, how shall I put it, boisterous(!)to say the least and this seemed to sum up the feeling at the time. I remember the Tube appearance - didn't he have white socks on too? I still reckon the Fine Time appearance on TOTP was the best though :-)

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I'm not to fond of Rock the Shack, dosn't seem to fit in.

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Originally posted by Andy Swan I remember the Tube appearance - didn't he have white socks on too? I still reckon the Fine Time appearance on TOTP was the best though :-)

Andy and Nicholas (sorry did the Hunter thing too!)

I dont remember the Tube appearance but would love to see it now! lol!I think I remember Fine Time on TOTP but I think you can beat the appearance on TOTP when they did Blue Monday and Gillian was dressed in a big browny coloured skirtand a pink blouse like a Granny (bless her!)and Barney got the giggles towards the end.. lol I used to love the way Hooky looked in those days too, almost as if he was going off to Sunday School....so presentable! lolololol

Those were the days.....

Liv :angel:

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Fine Time on TOTP was when Barney Bloggsed up complete with a pair of dungas and did a Bez.

When they did 'Riverside' was good too as was 'Whistle Test' live from the Hac - they did 'As it is..' then 'Sunrise' and Barney threw his guitar on the floor and a roadie just managed to fix it in time for the first guitar break. Rock 'n' roll!

The Radio 1 dual radio/tv appearance was pretty bad though. You could see that they were really uncomfortable playing in a clinical, un-atmospheric studio.

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Apparently they turned up very late and weren't set up properly.

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Well I dont know about you guys, but I can't stand Every Little Counts or aEvery Second Counts or whatever.. I dont even bother to find out the name of the song, thats how little I care for it. But that's the only song I can complain about. I used to dislike ICB too, but now it's growing on me. And about Rock The Shack... When compared to the other Get Ready Songs like Crystal, it's a little weak, but still not bad. But like somebody said earlier, there are no BAD New Order songs, just regular or weaker ones.

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Originally posted by Liv > Originally posted by Andy Swan> I remember the Tube appearance - didn't he have white socks on too? I still reckon the Fine Time appearance on TOTP was the best though :-)

I dont remember the Tube appearance but would love to see it now! lol!I think I remember Fine Time on TOTP but I think you can beat the appearance on TOTP when they did Blue Monday and Gillian was dressed in a big browny coloured skirtand a pink blouse like a Granny (bless her!)and Barney got the giggles towards the end.. lol I used to love the way Hooky looked in those days too, almost as if he was going off to Sunday School....so presentable! lolololol

Those were the days.....

Liv :angel:

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That makes me think : is their anyway to see that TOTP performance ("Fine Time") anywhere on a website or something. I heard about it a lot but never saw it... Maybe the webmasters of this site... :)

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Run is awful. So is the video. What were they thinking? But, I'd still rather listen to a "bad" NO song over 90% of whats out there.

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Can't understand why people don't like 'Run'-think it's a cracker personally..least favourite of mine would probably be Ruined in a Day

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Couldn't think of a track to put here but someone saying Angel Dust brings a nod of agreement from me. And perhaps All The Way. Not bad songs in their own right but I felt on both albums they were being held up as the 'harder' track when compared with their peers, whereas neither of them came close to earlier songs such as Age of Consent or Sunrise. Bit like Close Range from the new bunch - not bad, but not as 'kicking' as some might have us believe (Barney's comments at the Olympia, for one).

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Am I the only one who doesn't like Spooky? That was pretty bad. The remix of it that appeared on The Rest of was excellent but the song itself wasn't very good.

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I like Spooky and particularly the remixes.

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Originally posted by Nat X Run is awful. So is the video. What were they thinking? But, I'd still rather listen to a "bad" NO song over 90% of whats out there.

Sorry, I disagree, Run is a cracking track, and the video, is very surreal, but strangely compelling... But hey, thats only my opinion!

Liv :angel:

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Originally posted by Rob Underhill Am I the only one who doesn't like Spooky? That was pretty bad. The remix of it that appeared on The Rest of was excellent but the song itself wasn't very good.

Actually, I think Spooky has fantastic remixes. NONE of them are bad in my opinion, which is quite a rare thing these days.

I think the song itself could have turned out much better if it had been using a few elements from the remixes, such as the NewOrder In Heaven Mix, Stadium Mix and Magimix/Moulimix/Minimix.

Seb.

____________________ I find that the most important thing in the world these days is to be able to wake up in the morning, look at yourself in a mirror and think, 'Fuck, I'm looking forward to this day.' I haven't been like that for a very long time. I lived a lie. -Peter Hook

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I agree with what you say about the Spoky remixes-the moulimix(I think) which was used for the video and the Stadium mix were particuarly good. Think all the Crystal mixes are pretty decent-though I can understand the Bedrock mixes not appealing to everyone...

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Sometimes it seems like it takes a good remix to bring out the best in a NO song. I wish there had been remixes of more songs from Republic.

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I happen to love State of the Nation (especially when Barney "grunts", I think that is him :P ) I also do like Run, and the video is wonderful..very entertaining... but on the subject.. My least favorite would have to be 586 and most of Movement...

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Originally posted by April I happen to love State of the Nation (especially when Barney "grunts", I think that is him :P )I also do like Run, and the video is wonderful..very entertaining... but on the subject..My least favorite would have to be 586 and most of Movement...

I love the grunts/whoops too, same as on The Perfect Kiss.... always makes me smile! :)

But as for the Movement comments... hmmmmm..... not sure i agree with that, but hey, variety is the spice of life as they say.....

Liv :angel:

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Sometimes, I have the impression that there's a lot of people that like "Movement" because it reminds them of Joy Division. I don't know... Maybe I'm wrong but I find "Movement" a rather difficult album to listen to. And anyway, if it was only for it, I would never have fallen for New Order.

I rarely listen top it. For me, it's just an important part of history, the link between JD and NO but the things that came just afterwards are so much more appealing ("Everyhing's Gone Green", "Temptation", "Age Of Consent"). With these songs, I would become a fan instantly.

But I already am a fan, so what's the point ? :)

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I don't understand why everybody dislikes 586 so much; I like it a lot (although I skip the first minute and three quarters)

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favorites 1.run wild 2.temptation 3.true faith 4.someone like you 5.contusion 6.touched by the hand of god 7.turn my way

worst 1.btutal 2.chemical

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Originally posted by Allen Jarvis

Again:

WHAT'S WITH THE EMPTY MESSAGES!!!!! Is this a bug or what?

S.

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Originally posted by Lior Pessach favorites1.run wild2.temptation3.true faith4.someone like you5.contusion6.touched by the hand of god7.turn my wayworst1.btutal2.chemical

RUN WILD is your ALL TIME favorite New Order song??????????

Somebody pinch me.

S.

____________________ I find that the most important thing in the world these days is to be able to wake up in the morning, look at yourself in a mirror and think, 'Fuck, I'm looking forward to this day.' I haven't been like that for a very long time. I lived a lie. -Peter Hook

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Okay...one more fooking try here...

I said something to the affect that I was amazed that not a single one of us has mentioned the 1990 release of world in motion...I mean, I got it, because it was a neworder thing, but really, what do any of us americans care about Eng-er-land's World Cup football club... just seeing if I am the only one....

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actually jeff -

i liked the world in motion single. i still have the cassette in the car. i enjoy andrew weatherall's production and the instrumental. i also liked the mystique of the "loves got the world in motion" ecstasy reference. at the time i was totally obsessed with english music and culture so a football song by new order was 2 for the price of 1.

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I agree with Barney. He said "Blue Monday" in Liverpool the other week.

Thud, Thud, Thud, Thud etc.

PS Sunrise was always the best.

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blue monday should be dropped from the live set without a doubt. Surnise, Ceremony, Theives Like Us ...something from Technique, perhaps Dream Attack...i would like to see a poll started where the fan club votes for what they would most like to hear live and maybe get the band to respond. its either that or Allen and his gang of merry hooligans will follow them every stop of the tour shouting "CEREMONY" during the quiet parts...

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1963 is my least favourite NO song - it reminded me of Deacon Blue!

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Originally posted by Phil Lyons 1963 is my least favourite NO song - it reminded me of Deacon Blue!

Deacon Poo?

Are you demented?

I LOVE 1963, one of their best ever in my humble opinion....

Liv :angel:

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the worst songs? every one from REPUBLIC except REGRET

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I LOVE "DON'T DO IT" I can't get enough of it!!!!!!

"DON'T PUT YOUR FINGER ON THE BUTTON"

BRILLIANT, ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!!!!!

Who says that in the song anyway..

Another thing, I also can't understand how someone cannot like 1963.. that is one of my favorites...

Don't put your finger on the button.. Sorry, I must be going MAD :happytongue:

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Originally posted by brian geoghagan blue monday should be dropped from the live set without a doubt. Surnise, Ceremony, Theives Like Us ...something from Technique, perhaps Dream Attack...i would like to see a poll started where the fan club votes for what they would most like to hear live and maybe get the band to respond. its either that or Allen and his gang of merry hooligans will follow them every stop of the tour shouting "CEREMONY" during the quiet parts...

Excellent idea! We'll have that poll running very soon on this site.

Seb.

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Originally posted by mikesonic the worst songs? every one from REPUBLIC except REGRET

Strange that you would say that because Everyone Everywhere is in my Top 10 favorite songs by New Order.

And I like both World, Ruined in a Day and Special I must say... and even Spooky and Avalanche passes the test.

Seb.

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Originally posted by April I LOVE "DON'T DO IT"I can't get enough of it!!!!!!"DON'T PUT YOUR FINGER ON THE BUTTON"BRILLIANT, ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!!!!!Who says that in the song anyway.. Another thing, I also can't understand how someone cannot like 1963.. that is one of my favorites...Don't put your finger on the button..Sorry, I must be going MAD :happytongue:

I've always loved that one as well! I think Stephen Morris mentionned where the "don't put your finger on the button" was taken from in the ABSOLUT NEW ORDER interview that was in Select magazine back in 1993. Unfortunately I lended my copy of the magazine to Nicolas LAST OCTOBER so that he could scan it FOR THE SITE (I don't own a scanner myself), and he still has it. :rolleyes:

Seb.

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You know I heard it was something from WWII but I couldn't put my finger on it, and the origin of the name Joy Division just explains it a little more...

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"young offender" is made from the purest tripe, sounds like a reject from PSB "very"

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'Don't put your finger on the button' is an excerpt taken from a small British film made in the late 80's. It was a made-for-tv film a bit like 'Pennies from Heaven' or 'The Singing Detective'. It was not unlike a play made for tv. It was mostly some couples on a canal boat on holiday, you know, the BBC2 style films that are shown every now and then. In one of the scenes the phrase is said a few times - not science fiction I'm afraid, just some geezer with his finger on one of the buttons on the boat.

Me and my mate were watching TV one night and we managed to stumble across this film, we were both into New Order and said 'Fucking hell', that's the 'Don't Do It' sample. Oh well, there you go.

Republic - what a mixed bag of opinions everybody's coming out with. Regret, World, Ruined in a Day, Avalanche, Everybody Everywhere, Spooky - for fuck's sake its not Power, Corruption and Lies, but let's face some facts here - when I first heard PC&L it was a pile of shite... its only years after you think, fuck it, its not that bad. Ecstasy off PC&L... any better than Spooky? - I fucking think not. Your Silent Face, well there's another thing.

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Strange you bring up 'Ecstasy' coz it's about my favourite off that album...very twisted and dark. The fact that I haven't listened to republic for about 2 years explains my feelings about that album

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we live in such a beautiful world everyone here loves NO but has some different favourite songs.

well for EVERYONE EVERYWHERE... 10 points the other standout on REPUBLIC

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Originally posted by Dan Morton 'Run' is dreadful. It's New Order at their most wimpy and banal. Why so many people like it is beyond me. I would never have put on an LP, let alone the best of. Give me 'Thieves like us' anyday.

Dan, do you actually own Technique? Run is the beginning of a glorious effort (as in side 2 vinyl). Jesus~! Am I missing the fucking point here, wimpy? Bollocks.

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my winners for "the worst/less good New Order song" competition are:

  • Young Offender
  • Liar
  • Confusion (especially when played live)
  • We all stand
  • Turn the Heater on (actually only a coverversion)
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last december i´ve been to a funk-punk party were the dj tried to play funky 80ies ebm and new wave CONFUSION was ass-shaking the CONFUSION version on SUBSTANCE is crap also TEMPTATION 87 TURN THE HEATER ON was one of IAN CURTIS favourite songs

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Fuck me Sonic Mike you've fucking said something I bastard agree with. Thank fuck I've found some other fucker out there who agrees that Temptation '87 and Confusion '87 were absolute filthy badger.

Why oh fucking why did they not just put the bastard originals on Substance?

Marco We all Stand and Turn the Fucking Radiator up are two classic moments.

This Post is going to ramble on forever.

For me, the worst NO song has to be...................................................................................... erm, ................................... thinking ........................................................ hhmmmmm............................ something off Movement. ICB stands for Ian Curtis Buried by the way.

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Originally posted by Liam St. Paul > Originally posted by Dan Morton> 'Run' is dreadful. It's New Order at their most wimpy and banal. Why so many people like it is beyond me. I would never have put on an LP, let alone the best of. > Give me 'Thieves like us' anyday.

Dan, do you actually own Technique? Run is the beginning of a glorious effort (as in side 2 vinyl). Jesus~! Am I missing the fucking point here, wimpy? Bollocks.

I think the 2nd half of Technique is my favourite sequence of any songs from any band..starting with Run and ending in my personal favourite NO track; Dream Attack.

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I think I'm breaking all the records of posts and views with that topic... Almost 1.000 views, keep them coming... :)

Am I proud or am I proud ?

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huntsman: the original versions will sure be the on a greatest hits sampler when the band is too old to produce good songs, this will pay their rent

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Fucking hell Geoff you are indeed the king of all known posts you jammy get. I had noticed 1,000 views coming close.... if you reach this landmark you should be rewarded with a small cake. Why don't you eat some crisps in celebration.

Mike, I genuinely believe that at the time NO felt that Temptation and Confusion needed Stock Aitken and Waterman production, the soft nackas.

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Or maybe I will just sing "Love Vigilantes" out loud...

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... well that's up to you, personally, I'll be eating crisps in your honour.

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Well, I might be eating crisps between verses and chorus...

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Liv, 1963 cannot touch Fine Time in terms of its relevance to the period it was written in. Even now it stands the test of time, and shows how influential and forward thinking the band are.

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Originally posted by Huntsman 'Don't put your finger on the button' is an excerpt taken from a small British film made in the late 80's. It was a made-for-tv film a bit like 'Pennies from Heaven' or 'The Singing Detective'. It was not unlike a play made for tv. It was mostly some couples on a canal boat on holiday, you know, the BBC2 style films that are shown every now and then. In one of the scenes the phrase is said a few times - not science fiction I'm afraid, just some geezer with his finger on one of the buttons on the boat.

So New Order turned a banal canal boat phrase into a nuclear attack drama imagery! Wow.

S.

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State of the Nation without question the most average records NO ever committed to record.

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I think Hurt and Chemical are both pretty bad song. And except from Dreams Never End, i never listen to Movement.

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I think at this stage of the game the importance now is to achieve 1,000 views in this post to help Geoff achieve god like status.

Perhaps this isn't particularly relevant, but where's Nic the Blank lately? - has he fallen asleep at the wheel.

____________________ Pringles Light, every night.

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Originally posted by Huntsman I think at this stage of the game the importance now is to achieve 1,000 views in this post to help Geoff achieve god like status.Perhaps this isn't particularly relevant, but where's Nic the Blank lately? - has he fallen asleep at the wheel.____________________Pringles Light, every night.

He ran away to some obscure city when I threatened him after seeing so many bugs on this message board!

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Originally posted by Phil Lyons Liv, 1963 cannot touch Fine Time in terms of its relevance to the period it was written in. Even now it stands the test of time, and shows how influential and forward thinking the band are.

Personally I prefer 1963 to Fine Time. Nothing to do with the statement they are making about the time or anything to do with that. I prefer it based totally on the fact that i like the melody and the sounds.... very basic idea, but very true.

Besides, Barney himself said that his didnt have a message for the world, he simply writes his songs/lyrics because he likes them..........ands thats why i choose to like them too.....

Liv :angel:

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Originally posted by Sébastien Boisvert > > > So New Order turned a banal canal boat phrase into a nuclear attack drama imagery! Wow.> > S.> > > ____________________> Proud fan and follower of Nicholas Huntsman. :D

Apparantly, that's what I heard...

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I like all tracks / albums / videos so big raspberries to all of you!! lol

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....especially Movement and 586 (precurser to Blue Monday).

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...also the original version of 586 that came out as a cd single in 1997 onTouch Tone Records.Goes on for 20 minutes.You've gotto be outta your head to appreciate it though.Great stuff.

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This thread is giving me a reason to put pages inside the topics.

Gosh!!

Keep going!

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State of the nation is just different than anything else , this is why many of you do not like it.

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Originally posted by MICHAEL BRATHWAITE State of the nation is just different than anything else , this is why many of you do not like it.

Im not sure about that, I think State of the nation is quite a typical New Order song of the period. . . . but thats just my opinion....

Liv :angel:

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State of the Nation is fantastic and so is the video.

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Originally posted by brian geoghagan State of the Nation is fantastic and so is the video.

Brian mate.... my sentiments exactly!

Liv :angel:

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Yeah! Keep the thread going!

But c'mon, seriously, that Christmas flexi is REALLY bad. "Ode to joy" is god-awful - totally unlistenable. That 20 minutes of 5-8-6 is pretty bad too (although the razormaid version of 5-8-6 rocks), but evertyhing else ranges from OK to good to great!!!

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Now wait...

if we are here...

is there...I mean, really, is there any New Order tune that is our least favorite??? While I was at work last night...BLT came one (which I had posted as my least favorite)...and I was still hopping around like a pogo stick...

____________________ 24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincedence? I think not!

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Originally posted by brian geoghagan State of the Nation is fantastic and so is the video.

Someone needs to tell me where I can view these videos...

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Originally posted by Liv > Originally posted by brian geoghagan> State of the Nation is fantastic and so is the video.

Brian mate.... my sentiments exactly!

Liv :angel:

____________________ So Hip It Hurts

OH LOOK...Liv is a member of the Brotherhood now..watch out...

I am half way there :laugh:

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April, I think the State of the nation video is in the multimedia library... Just have to check

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Originally posted by Geoffroy Klompkes April, I think the State of the nation video is in the multimedia library... Just have to check

How about the rest? Is there somewhere they are on video or DVD?

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I'm so sick of reading the topic of THIS thread that I'm about to LOCK it !!!!!

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I'm with you on that.

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Sometimes, I sit watching my screen, and an hour can pass quite easily, and only half of this post has appeared.

Seb - just do it.

____________________ Pringles Light, every night.

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Just a quickie to show Taboo 7 this thread had already existed... :D

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Cool, so let me add my least favorite.....World In Motion

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Wow, what a long thread! Before this thread is locked, I'll put my vote in for World In Motion. Bought the single when it came out, and I like football, it's just that I wasn't knocked out by the tunes or lyrics. I like the other mixes, but the single mix I thought sounded like a step back rather than a step forward at the time.

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Sorry about that one, Seb... :lol:

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Personally I can't stand "All Day Long", or "Every Little Counts" - I was really disappointed with Brotherhood at the time, having heard most of them live several times for the previous 12 or so months - just didn't like the production. I suppose every record throws up one or two you don't go much for though, with the exception of Low Life, which was, and still is, fantastic.

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Please, please lock this thread.

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help me somebody help me i wonder where i am i see my fucking future before me I'll hurt you when i can

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Shit I've just waited about 10 minutes for this thread to reveal itself and I don't want to waste the opportunity of saying something really important before we're all band out of this crazy place.

Geoff, I'd just like to say in your honour that you are easily th.. bes;l. and most outs.a..d.

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Originally posted by Huntsman Shit I've just waited about 10 minutes for this thread to reveal itself and I don't want to waste the opportunity of saying something really important before we're all band out of this crazy place.Geoff, I'd just like to say in your honour that you are easily th.. bes;l. and most outs.a..d.

Oops, Huntsmania, what did you say ? Erm... Thanks anyway... :)

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Alright, this time, it's gone for GOOD.

Sorry, I'll try to do a multi-page topic one day, to avoid having a page taking so long to load!!

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