New Order consuming crisps during 'Getting Things Ready'? - evidence here

I laughed when Gary Shandlig used to hoover his flat and your T.V. got interferance.Also very amusing is the way kramer enters Jerry's apartment in that other funny one with the Klein(or is it a De Kerf) MTB constantly on the wall. I've only seen it off the wall once and even then he never road it anywhere, 'get out and ride'

I only picked Claire Sweeney, Huntsy, because Shimmy had just referred to her as someone famous and I had never heard of her. Much more important, though:

"Your hair was long Your eyes was blue Guess what I'm gonna do TO you"

As you'll recall, we recently discussed this song. The third line above is one of my VERY MOST FAVORITE NO lyrics. In the company of "It's never enough until your heart stops beating" etc.

The only TV show I faithfully watch is Roswell.

"Cannibal! The musical" is one of the funniest films ever, by the way!

Originally posted by Allen Jarvis > Originally posted by Patrick> Is Claire Sweeney someone famous?

She looks like Squirrel Nutkin.

Cut the head off and she's alright though. Although there's laws about that kind of thing.

She's actually more attractive in the flesh or she was about three years ago when I saw her.Emanting, as I do, like all Liverpooolians from the same small village in London, I know all the famous Liverpoolians, Stan Boardman, Tarby, Doddy,Austin Powers,Waynesworld and Debbie Jones.

Don't forget old reruns of Monty Python's Flying Circus!

Oh, Huntsy, you'll be interested to know I just consumed an entire 6 ounce canister of Pringles (plain flavor, unfortuantely. No other flavor will abide my gastric juices)

Who the hell needs the telly when we've got the Huntsy and Patsy show right here on the orderline. Top crack!! I think i've cracked a rib I was laughing so fuckin hard!!

Okay, Huntsy, I listened to that sound at the end of 6.2 Miles an Hour numerous times, and I've concluded it's the sound of cellophane being eagerly removed from a Britney Spears CD; you know they are always on the lookout for female backing vocals.

Huntsy- that sound that you perceive to be 'crisp wrapper scrunching' after 60mph is none other than Hooky gobbing a standard varietal packet of Walkers Salt & Vinegar. I know this to be true because Hooky's dried potato snack predilections were referred to quite emphatically by Bernard in the recent MuchMusic interview from Japan.

In fact- and I cannot stress this enough- Bernard cited the Hookster's overly dramatic "licking of his fingers after consuming crisps" as being one of the most annoying internal issues within the band circa Republic, and indeed almost brought the awesome foursome unstuck. You see, it's the little things that get to you after a while- friction over the levels of Hooky's bass in the mix was of little consequence- CRISPS were indeed the root of much evil. Crisps!

It appears that H is temporarily AWOL.

Everytime I look in the mirror I realise that crisps are the root of all evil....

Liv

Hello everyone -

Well then, cellophane or Hooky munching a bag of 'el cheapo crisps?... I know where my vote goes.

I did mention it was a cheap bag of the aformentioned and thus feel comfortably reassured with the minor backing shown on this post/thread thing. I did read about the Hookster being very annoying with his crisp addiction. He needs to be very careful because it is quite annoying... not as much as picking your beak but damn close.

Did anyone ever see that documentary about the tests on anti-depressant drugs? - Barney offered himself up for a set of Prozac masters and the film took us into Bernard's household where he was seen pontificating in his little bedroom attempting to write down some lyrics (presumably some that rhyme). The documentary was trying to see if Barnstormer would write more flowingly and happily (happy subject matter) after downing a load of drugs in the form of Prozac instead of 'E'. Can't remember the result of this but the highlight was the knocking on the door mid-discussion with Bernie...

'Come in'

Enter Johnny the boy Marr with a mug of tea and 2 digestives for the Bernie. Turns out that he was penning for the new Eleccy album and the Marr was sat downstairs waiting with the patience of a saint. After a while he must have got bored and decided to make a cup of the affirmitive. Was great to see Sumner dunk a biscuit and eat it... he is a man after my own heart... and my choice in biscuits.

So, Huntsy, are you still angry with me for saying bad things about Regret? And, by the way, what are your feelings about the World and Spooky remixes? Is that story about the tea true, H?

Its becoming difficult working out Huntsman's fact from fiction... what can I do to remedy that situation? - stop talking perhaps.

Yes, the prozac cup of tea story is true, plenty of people in the UK must have seen this documentary so perhaps a backup may appear somewhere down the line.

I really am no fan of re-mixes post 1990, they're just too similar. I do like the Fire Island Regret mix, and the Spooky re-mix was better than the album only because the album version was so very toy-town (just check them synth piano moments... poo-ey).

Could never be ad odds with you P... surely you know this by now!?

:)

Originally posted by Huntsman Its becoming difficult working out Huntsman's fact from fiction... what can I do to remedy that situation? - stop talking perhaps.Yes, the prozac cup of tea story is true, plenty of people in the UK must have seen this documentary so perhaps a backup may appear somewhere down the line.I really am no fan of re-mixes post 1990, they're just too similar. I do like the Fire Island Regret mix, and the Spooky re-mix was better than the album only because the album version was so very toy-town (just check them synth piano moments... poo-ey).Could never be ad odds with you P... surely you know this by now!? :)

I can confirm the said programme

Well, Huntsy, there did seem to be some irritation at me for taking one more poke at R. I thought there was an unspoken understanding that it was more fun to disagree a little than just go on about how terrible Slow Death is. But I really don't mean to say anything offensive. Anyway, I confess I've probably listened far more to the World and Spooky remixes than to the actual album they're derived from. You know they would never show a documentary featuring any member of NO on TV here.

It was before 'Raise the Pressure'. Quite a funny program if I remember..bit embarrassing for the Barnster now though I reckon

Mmm Pats, maybe showing a program in some way relating to New Order might be perceived to be a dig at Britney Spears? - I mean, that would surely intrude her airtime? - Never mind, at least we can all enjoy watching the Crawlin Linkin Park fellas dance around singing the same song in a different order at various stages of the night and day for ever more. At least, until Linkin Park II come out.

Hey Pats I think I've missed something here... and can only pin it down to an abrupt exit to my orderline meanderings. Didn't attempt a breach of talks at any stage (with or without the topic of the good and bad points of Re-dress coming up). Maybe you've taken me the wrong way, and perhaps that was when I was mid-post but had to make a dash for the bog to release a floating demon and thus, severing Patty/Huntsy relations mid-flow.

How can I make this situation up to you?

Hey Facsimile - thanks for backing up my programme you good old egg you. I see you attempted to break the religion post up before war broke out between everyone... no such luck eh!? - I don't know... when will people learn. Speaking of Ireland Facsy, one of my best pals of all time left that place because his dad was worried about unearthing a bomb under his bomber and blowing themselves up inadvertently. Oh well, the chances of anything like that happening in our old street are very minimal... so maybe they made the right move. They were more likely to step in dog shit down our way, which is a damn site better than watching your insides blow 15ft in the air and land on your bonnet... and that's a factoid!

Well, Huntsy, would it be asking too much for your agreement that Crystal is just a teeny-tiny bit better than Road Rage?

Its a difficult one to answer that Patron. What I would say, if I may?, is this. When a New Order song is GREAT, it makes it into a special pile of other GREAT NO songs. Once they are in this exclusive sector of my mind (and other peoples teeth) they stay their for good and this pile is very difficult to segregate - like separating good pringles from bad (almost impossible). i.e. what is better and worse of the GREAT songs? - mmm, tricky shit.

Huntsman's (very short) GREAT pile for example purposes only.

Regression Crystal Carrington Turn My Feet Temptation Thow me a Bone Dreaming about Attacks Mister Dishcloth

Now P P, all of the above, to me, cannot be singled out as better or worse (in greatness) to the other. So, to answer your question... I think Regression just tips it.

Well, that's a fair answer, Huntsy. Actually Crystal Cleanser is in the process of supplanting Turn My Back at the top of the GR heap for me. But if you said to me quick what are your five all-time favorites it would probably take me a week to answer. And now I will display my colossal stupidity: what exactly is Throw Me a Bone?

Leave Me Alone.

I was going to write: Leave Me a Bone

but got carried away (I think you know what I'm saying).

Well, Leave Me A Loan certainly deserves to be in the inner circle; and I do know what you mean about getting carried away. But it would have taken me quite some time to figure that out on my own, Huntsy.

Well, I'm only a post away in times of need. Truth be told P man, when I read some other people's own nicknames for songs I struggle to understand them myself... however, would never admit to being puzzled by my own monster.

(I thought Mister Dishcloth was a particularly amusing name and I may consider that in future posts... or I might just get carried away)

Well Pats I have now 'just noticed' that you had cunningly substituted the title of Leave me Alone with Leave Me A Loan... yet another instance where the Huntsman cannot keep up with his own nonesense.

Dash it... I think I'll stick to animals like glue to a nose.

Yes, Huntsy, I agree Mister Dishcloth is very good. Definitely worth remembering for future use.

Okay, Huntsy, to return to the subject of Crystal versus Regret, having listened to both again last night, there is one obvious category where Regret is far superior, namely the emotional content of the lyrics. The lyrics on Regret feel very genuine and lived, whereas the lyrics on Crystal are synthetic and pretty fake. And certainly in NO's very best things, the lyrics are an important part of the package. However, that said, as pure sound, Crytal goes about as far as possible to overcome lyrics that contribute just about nothing to the overall experience of the song.

Blimey Pats... you won't let this one go will you. I like that in a man (to a lesser extent a woman).

I put some thought into yesterdays suggestion that perhaps Crystal nudges slightly above Turn My Feet in the overall depth and quality stakes and I think, and this is obviously after due consideration... you may have something. Crystal has a truly unique sound... I absolutely adore the drums (obviously the beginning opening bars send shivers up my spinal column) and Hooky's bass is awesome. It sounds a bit like a 60's song in the alternative early sex movie kind of way (difficult ot explain that one). Its a bit sleazy.

So many years have passed and Regret, for me, is up there with the very best New Order work. As stated, I couldn't guarantee that whichever I chose today as the best, would still be my favourite tomorrow. The GREAT list is a list on its own and the GREATEST GREAT song is too difficult to select.

Very confusing.

At the moment, top 5 ranks as this.

1st best - Crystal 2nd - Regret 3rd - Turn My Wagon 4th - Temptation (the version available on this site and none-other) 5th - Leave My Shoes

Quite what you'll make of all that rambling is anyones guess.

CRystal would be near perfect but for few dodgy lyrics. Particuarly that honey/money line.

Regret is THAT bassline

Both top songs though