The future of NewOrderOnline

have you considered something as simple as phpbb3, joomla, or wordpress? they are all free and can handle forum activity.

just a thought.

couldn't i just pay your hosting fee's for like 6 months. seems like a better alternative.

NOOL won't be as COOL without Nicos at the helm, but I guess we'll come to terms with it, just so long as NOOL survives in some form.

Nicos, Lets get rid of the friends/friends requests jobby/item,complete waste of webspace if you ask me!

The discography section needs a tweak too,personally,it would be better if it was the same format as the niagra/WIM type discog,all the info being on the same page as opposed to clicking on an item to view the discog.

Give the moderators more powers to ban people,i do know you are extremely busy and dont have much time to look at the site as much as you want,there are many people who visit the site more than once a day (myself included),perhaps the site needs more moderators?

Therefore,i would like to offer my services,to be,at your/the sites disposal,a moderator of any of the forums,whichever they may be.

I would also like to propose mr Steve Cambo campbell/the doctor,to also be a moderator of any forums.

As you are aware,i am currently in the process of building my own site and i am more than happy to help nool anyway i can,be it pictures or information/anything.

I think thats about everything..............

But,just wanted to say that i am more than happy to help in any way i can.

Regards steve

Definitely need more moderators (with more power) to get rid of the spammers and the idiots who spoil the forums. Also need people who who can keep the news sections regularly updated (admittedly there isnt a lot of news these days). New Order may have split up, but if the site is not to die a slow death then do that asap.

Count with me Nicos!

we can't get rid of NOOL. if you need me for anything (editing, etc.) i'd be more than happy to help.

not many people use the slavic forum, so maybe we could do without that (even though i am a moderator). other people have good ideas--getting rid of the message section, chat, etc.

i'm sure there are a lot of people who will help out on the site, nicos!

I don't mind helping moderate digital republic or song of the week, if moderator help is needed?

HAL 9000 wrote: couldn't i just pay your hosting fee's for like 6 months. seems like a better alternative.

and who's gonna pay the following six months, and the six after that, and so on?! I don't mind a contribution but I don't think one single person should foot the bill. Anyway, I do agree with the others in that we definitely need more moderators, or at least more powers for the ones we have.

It would be criminal to let the archived information; song browser, gigography etc go.

As for the forum, sorry as I'd be to see it go, it wouldn't be the end of the world. A group so determined to post bollocks at one another would quickly find another home.

So, Nic, that would be my focus if I were you. Can't see why you should be at all worried about keeping something alive now that it's original intent has all but gone.

It must be a pain in the arse to manage and I know finance is an issue as well. I've chipped in over the years, many of us have, but I don't see the point now.

So my suggestion would be to preserve the information resource and turn off the forum.

We'll live without it, and of course we're all grateful for the years we've had and friends we've made.

Diamond 383 wrote:

So my suggestion would be to preserve the information resource and turn off the forum.

On the contrary, there are better sites for information. The forum is the one [fairly] unique selling point, allowing people demonstrate their idiocy to viewers all over the world.

There are better sites for NO information? Such as?

If that's the case just point us at it and turn the whole lot off, if that's what you want to do.

I'm sure none of us wants to be any trouble...

Well that'd be a sorry day.Although most of us are Facebook friends,there's greater contact on here.

But, Sods Law.. This place gets shut down, and NO reform...

I can just see it. The awkward bastards...

Tarbox23 wrote: have you considered something as simple as phpbb3, joomla, or wordpress? they are all free and can handle forum activity.

just a thought.

joomla & phpbb are great but I think the main problem for Nicolas is the space dedicated server that costs a lot.

MONTY DOES DALLAS wrote: Well that'd be a sorry day.Although most of us are Facebook friends,there's greater contact on here.

Facebook??? so that's where all u peeps have gone!

Never been on facebook...must give it a try then

the Blog stuff is sad. very sad.

Hows about we lose Uncle Liam in the migration????

or leave him here when we turn it off?

giving the Doctor a three line limit would create lots more space.

doctorx0079 wrote: There are better sites for NO information? Such as?

In NO particular order http://www.cerysmaticfactory.info/ http://www.niagara.edu/neworder/ http://home.dialix.com/~u3336/factory/

There's others, depends what you want - I like a wide range of Factory stuff and news, If I want a list of gigs or stupid remixes I can go elsewhere. I supose my point is that it's the people on this site that make it 'alive'. The News on the front page has rarely been ahead, and going through the other menu options a disappointment. I always read the forums because it allows this dead band to live.

Cerysmatic is particularly good for news.

Diamond 383 wrote: If that's the case just point us at it and turn the whole lot off, if that's what you want to do.

I'm sure none of us wants to be any trouble...

Re-reading my original post it does look like I meant that... I didn't - I was trying to suggest it's the forum that makes this place interesting - the other sites can't compete with it. The banter and assistance provided I would miss terribly! Sorry to hurt your feelings!

You didn't upset me, mate. Nobody would miss this place more than me. I'm just thinking of Nic. If his heart's not in it any more, why should he feel obliged to carry on?

I have no doubt at all that we'd find somewhere else to live and if there's nowhere suitable out there one of us would have enough nous to set one up.

I like your point that this site keeps the band alive, in a way, but it's not like the band themseves are actually dead. If they don't want to carry on, it does seem a bit daft us doing so.

But as I said, I'm sure I'll be amongst the last to post here whatever happens.

FDISK wrote:

doctorx0079 wrote: There are better sites for NO information? Such as?

In NO particular order http://www.cerysmaticfactory.info/ http://www.niagara.edu/neworder/ http://home.dialix.com/~u3336/factory/

There's others, depends what you want - I like a wide range of Factory stuff and news, If I want a list of gigs or stupid remixes I can go elsewhere. I supose my point is that it's the people on this site that make it 'alive'. The News on the front page has rarely been ahead, and going through the other menu options a disappointment. I always read the forums because it allows this dead band to live.

Well, it's hard for me to find info about the problems with the re-releases on all of those sites. They all seem to be focused on historical information. So I suppose that's one reason why a forum like this is important. I wouldn't have even known about the problems or the re-re-release plans without this forum.

The band may be done, but the band members are still doing stuff, and there's no telling what the future may hold. Plus there's a wealth of personal information here (thirty years of memories lodged in your thick heads) that's difficult or impossible to find elsewhere. I'm not that active, but I'd be very sad if this went away.

If traffic is down surely bandwidth usage is down as well, so maybe a streamlined site using free forum software is the way to go. I agree that the community is the strongest asset here; those of us who live abroad have few other options for maintaining contact with it.

FDISK wrote:

http://www.niagara.edu/neworder/ http://home.dialix.com/~u3336/factory/

Cheers for the mention of the above 2. Although my baton was passed along several years ago on the first one above (The NO Discog), I still manage the second (the Factory Discography site). As the good people behind NOOL, and John et al at Cerysmatic, Frank B at the Crepescule site, etc know, its a labour of love keeping these sites operating.

Its good karma getting involved in some way, so if you can help out with the NOOL site - do so. We all benefit.

PS there is a better URL (link) to use for the Factory Discog site above - you should always use http://www.factoryrecords.info

Dennis

Dennis Remmer wrote:

FDISK wrote:

http://www.niagara.edu/neworder/ http://home.dialix.com/~u3336/factory/

Cheers for the mention of the above 2. Although my baton was passed along several years ago on the first one above (The NO Discog), I still manage the second (the Factory Discography site). As the good people behind NOOL, and John et al at Cerysmatic, Frank B at the Crepescule site, etc know, its a labour of love keeping these sites operating.

Its good karma getting involved in some way, so if you can help out with the NOOL site - do so. We all benefit.

PS there is a better URL (link) to use for the Factory Discog site above - you should always use http://www.factoryrecords.info

Dennis

Copied the links direct from my 'favourites' menu (that's how I spell it, fuck Microsoft), obviously not updated for a while! I agree it's a labour of love keeping sites going and my earlier comments are no reflection on the energy Nic has put into this site.

I still enjoy this site and am happy to over my services if there's anyway I can help. Nic's put too much into it over the years to see it evaporate...

BTW is there still a link where you can sign up to the Ceremony list? I still receive the messages (to an old email account) but can't post.

My input around here's been greatly reduced in recent years but I still check in regularly.

With band output drying up, there's only so many times you can rehash the same old threads. Seems to me a lot of variety has been lost as some of the more colourful posters have left and the usual suspects remain, saying the usual things.

I'd suggest it's time to streamline the site. While the band was recording and touring there was plenty of motivation to turn this into the ultimate NO resource. Now, I'd carve away most of the forums, the discography, messages/blogs, friends, etc. Any resource that's not the ultimate of its type on the web can go. Keep it simple, cheaper and easier to run.

I've contributed before and will do again to keep things afloat.

Interested to see what others think. Dare I say it: perhaps we need a poll?

:\pimp3:

Spotnick wrote: Well, i have a few people in my MSN list that tells me when we have real problems so i have to fix them.

Just to be clear, NOOL won't close, I'm just offering to switch it to another "application", so we can have more people to help me taking care of it.

The old site will still be 100% accessible until I can fully put the content in the new one.

It might looks a bit crappy until WenOrder skin it properly, but basically, it will remain the same thing, and to be honest, you'll probably enjoy it more because of the features included in it.

Glad to hear that the site aint goin anywhere!

Good stuff !

I,ve got some pics etc to send you Nic but which email do i send it to,that is the question?

http://www.neworderinfoweb.piczo.com

I've contributed before as well and would be willing to do so again, if money is an issue.

depthcharge wrote: My input around here's been greatly reduced in recent years but I still check in regularly.

With band output drying up, there's only so many times you can rehash the same old threads. Seems to me a lot of variety has been lost as some of the more colourful posters have left and the usual suspects remain, saying the usual things.

I'd suggest it's time to streamline the site. While the band was recording and touring there was plenty of motivation to turn this into the ultimate NO resource. Now, I'd carve away most of the forums, the discography, messages/blogs, friends, etc. Any resource that's not the ultimate of its type on the web can go. Keep it simple, cheaper and easier to run.

I've contributed before and will do again to keep things afloat.

Interested to see what others think. Dare I say it: perhaps we need a poll?

:\pimp3:

NO-we just need HUNTSMAN and Patrick back.:D

Spotnick, I don't know you personally, as I don't know anybody else on NOOL, but I've got to say what a wonderful website it is.

As a NO devotee, but not to the extent of some members, I very rarely bother with most of the website and go direct for the forums, where I find out all that I need to know to keep me going. Indeed, recently I think I've been doing my fair share of NO spotting, keeping onepopular thread alive!

In my humble opinion the website works on two levels; (i) as a thoroughly informative website for anybody new to NO and JD, and (ii) as a forum where more knowledgeble fans can let their egos clash.

Two lose one of these functions in the change would be a mistake.

I feel more moderation is also the way forward to help with the smooth running of the site. I would love to put my name forward, but even though I visit the website probably four times a week, I don't contribute enough and I believe there are more people worthier than I.

Finally, in any crossover I think a reduction in the Forums would make life easier. It seems Digital Republic is a dumping ground for everything these days, and in this day and age of tag clouds and other such shite I am sure it could be done without making the site less workable.

Whatever the outcome I will say this, NOOL is fantastic and I have thoroughly enjoyed the five years I've been a member.

Thanks guys.

I would be extremely gutted to see the end of NOOL,even tho' I've not been a member for very long & haven't posted that much,NO/JD have been the most major musical part of my life for 26 years,& this site has been a great source of information,interest,thought provocation,humour & shared love of quite simply the best band(s) ever IMO.& it's all these things & more that make NOOL what it is,I don't know if it's unique,but it just seems it fits NO right,& that'll do for me.Cheers

I personally think just for the website to continue in any capacity would be great. It must take a real lot of effort and dedicated man hours to keep this one going, so well doen to all those who have contributed hugely over the years.

It would be sad for it to go together so Id be happy however it continues.

worldinmotion.net is a graveyard these days. I don't think that this place will ever get like that as more people visit here and there is more of a social element to it. The format may have to change, but i'm sure this place will be around for a while.

almansoglasnost wrote: Ceremony Mailing List still works...

Oh, that takes me back...

April wrote:

almansoglasnost wrote: Ceremony Mailing List still works...

Oh, that takes me back...

Ceremony Mailing List still works...but if you need to change your email @, you can't do it since the ceremony home page doesn't exist anymore.

The spam on this site is getting a little rediculous

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Désolé Spotnick de revenir à la charge avec ça, mais j'aimerai bien recevoir mon SlipCases pour y ranger mes 45 tours, ainsi que mon CD de WFTSC. Merci.

NOOL has been the first port of call of anything NO related, esp. with bootlegs, to get rid of TLU forum would be criminal and sooo would be the disgog, i find it here so much more useful and easier to navigate, without conflicting info, shame it just have the pictures,

i think the beta version so far is a better idea, it working for so far, just looks a little shit and bare, takes a little getting used to, but already i can see how its an improvment, thanks Nic

p.s Doc for moderator, he is here every 5minutes,

Anyone wanna buy an iPhone?

Would be a shame to see the site/forum go, but as this is the first time I've logged on for about 9 months, I'm pretty sure folks can survive without it...

Snorri xxx

Probably too late to add anything, but... Why not close/delete a bunch of the forums that never get any traffic and only waste bandwidth? (i.e. customer service, tech chat, community, state of the nation, weekly song reviews)

if they aren't being used, they aren't wasting bandwidth.

I haven't logged-in in forever. But I look at all the people in this thread who have been here either before I joined or close to that time. We've all contributed before and I'm sure we're all happy to do so again. Even if New Order is "over" we've been here before.

I'm listening to Closer while enjoying some wine. I just got a copy of the re-release of Technique and I look forward to acquiring the others. New Order regardless of their future output have a lot of life in them.

Just my two cents in this worthless economy.

Why not creating an ONG for New Order?

Big Mouth Julio wrote: Why not creating an ONG for New Order?

By ONG, Julio means NGO

Now, what he *really* means by NGO you have to ask him....