LEAST favourite NO Studio LP

I blame Maja for this one, but I think she's right - WFTSC may get the least votes as favourite album, but its probably not the least favourite either.

So, which LP is your least fave - and why?

For me its actually LowLife - these days there are only 3 songs on that (PFD Sunrise & Eligia) that I listen to with any regularity

CuanaD wrote: I blame Maja for this one, but I think she's right - WFTSC may get the least votes as favourite album, but its probably not the least favourite either.

So, which LP is your least fave - and why?

Good stuff - this should sort it out... Be interesting to see if the results are the inverse of the most favourite.

Fook Conrad you actually voted for Low Life!?!?! I will forgive you but never forget I voted for Republic. The answer is simple (as me ) - Stephen Hague

WFTSC isn't that bad, but it's not as good as the others by a long way.

NObabe wrote: Fook Conrad you actually voted for Low Life!?!?! I will forgive you but never forget I voted for Republic. The answer is simple (as me ) - Stephen Hague

Sorry:( In my defence, I love all the lp's thats just my least loved, probably 7 out of 10 for me.

BROTHERHOOD for me (Sorry, Alan ;) ) My favourite track on it was All Day Long. But besides Paradise, Weirdo, Broken Promise and BLT... oops it looks like a helluva good songs on it actually :D Anyway there are several bollocks that turn me off :( I could never listen to As It When It Was.

My second least favourite is POWER, CORRUPTION & LIES. I know it's a seminal record and all that but I heard it in 1994 for the first time and it was the last NO album I bought for my collection back then, having all other albums bought by then. I guess it couldn't impress me much in comparison. :\ohwell:

So, Jim Bob loathes Brotherhood!? Here's hope that Craigy will remain the only person voted for WFTSC!

Does anyone remember buying Smash Hits in the 80's? They used to run MOST FAVE and LEAST FAVE polls - quite often the reader's most favourite was also the least favourite - i.e. loads of people loved WHAM! just as many hated them...

They dropped the LEAST FAVE as a result... Doesn't look like that will happen here (mirrored results in opposite polls), but it's one of those things were you get a judge of passion be it negative or positive; sometimes the balance of powers is equal...

Attention: Craigy is cheating, he voted for WFTSC TWICE!!! :D

You know that "negative" polls are always more attractive. And people are more active in their hatred than love. So this poll will unleash our passion!

"Technique" for me... It's soo boring .

don't like half of what's on Republic so that gets my vote

Republic for me too. Only Regret, World, Ruined & Special stood out for me. More Hooky needed.

WFTSC, just cant get into it, nothing stands out to me but the title track. and Jetstream still sucks

Movement for me. Its just not an album you can just stick on and play. Youve got to be in the mood. And a bad mood at that!! Its very dark, the guitars are all tinny and need more beefing up. The lyrics are just trying to be Joy Division but fall flat. And Barney is obviously still finding his way vocally.

I also read that NO hate that album too and wanted to re-record it because of Martin Hannett's poor production. It was a shame they didnt get their wish.

Brotherhood. At least Republic has got three good songs on it.

WFTSC certainly has more tones and colour than Republic - I think I like Republic slightly better because it tends to stick to one musical tone which is what I look for when I plonk on an LP - a certain mood...

I think I also like Republic slightly better because it documents a very spiky time in NO history; factory collapsed, the Hac closed, NO is on life support, everyone is thinking about spin offs... The fact they came back from that place is amazing to say the least...

WFTSC is good - I give it seven out of ten, but I give the other albums more out of ten - it has some smashing tracks - I just wish it was less scattergun... (some tracks sublime, some awkward).

Get Ready had way more consistency in comparison; a very defiant and agreeablely noisy album, apart from Run Wild; the only track that didn't fit, although they were clever with this; they put it at the end of the LP.

Come on, Republic ain't that bad...

Who voted for Technique?

I'm onto you

'Movement' No contest. 'Dreams Never End' is the only good song. Followed closely by Get Ready.

Movement. It's not hard to see why and it must've been very difficult for them at the time.

Rob knew that they, even though they were all grieving a great amount after the death of their friend, they owed it to themselves and their music to continue.

Completing some of the final songs written with Ian must've been very hard at times. Barney had drawn the short straw to become lead vocalist which is never an easy job anyway. Dreams Never End and Truth stand out for me as examples of that transitional period but the album generally is quite patchy musically and Hannett's state at the time couldn't have helped. Movement is the sound of a legendary band and their producer slowly moving apart.

Hannett quit because he wanted a Fairlight for his studio and the Order, Wilson and Gretton voted in favour of opening the Hac instead.

wftsc is my least favorite, its missing risk and feeling to me. Infact, I've been listening to Electronic a lot lately. I'd have to say I'm really enjoying them right now! Anyway, I love true faith and 1963. Although, looking back on it (and Republic) that Stephen hauge guy originally put hooky's bass lower in the original mix of 1963 didn't he? And the 95 version by baker brought it back out. Damn him, ruining Republic like that. Oh well, still a good album, .

movement... they weren't fully developed into new order at that point. it's not as good as either joy division lp (although i can barely listen to closer these days... can't listen to pornography or any bauhaus anymore either (other than third uncle and ziggy stardust)) and it's got absolutely nothing on 81-82 ep. just an underdeveloped album.

Bollocks Bollocks Bollocks. Movement is the best!!!

Brotherhood, with Get Ready and WTFSC very close to it.

movement. besides DNE, i think it's pretty damn boring.

Judging it via the LPs I revisit the least, PC&L.

I'll abstain from voting (since I don't have all of their albums as of now), but I must say that I really enjoy Movement: it has an almost hypnotic effect on me, and it's so moody and dark. The synths are very primitive sounding, and Barney's voice is distorted and fragile, both of which create a rather eerie sound and atmosphere. I'd even prefer it, as a whole, to Technique, which is much less cohesive (even though it contains a few of my favourite tracks).

Movement for me. As I regularly play all the others.

Republic for me...After Regret(which is one of the very best songs of all time for me)there was nothing and it was very disappointing,considering just how good the previous albums were.I never took to Movement but I did'nt feel gutted like with Republic,maybe because I got Movement well after its release...Bland and boring, Republic was to me.Never listened to it in years.Like Get ready alot,love certain Tracks on WFtSCGratefully LOOking forward to another one

Clockwork C wrote: Who voted for Technique?

I'm onto you

Errr, I accidentally cast one vote for Technique, I meant to go for Republic........damn hay fever......

That's allright about dissing Brotherhood, I know why some people don't like it, but it was the right album at the right time for me, so that's why I love it.

Brotherhood. I will, 2 good songs here, WOL and ADL

Very surpised to see that Movement is sufferring...

It's very different to the other albums; very dark and depressive, but again, it documents a key moment in NO history and is full of songs that are 3/4 what JD were and 1/4 what NO was to become...

REPUBLIC, without a doubt. Too much of it is fluff. Regret is one of the best songs they ever did, though.

I think MOVEMENT is a superb album.

Interesting the 'favourite' thread looks like this at the moment: MOVEMENT [7] [7.22%]

POWER, CORRUPTION AND LIES [10] [10.31%]

LOW LIFE [19] [19.59%]

BROTHERHOOD [9] [9.28%]

TECHNIQUE [41] [42.27%]

REPUBLIC [5] [5.15%]

GET READY [4] [4.12%]

WAITING FOR THE SIREN'S CALL [2] [2.06%]

From that, you wouldn't expect Republic & Movement to be (by far) the least favourites

Ben wrote: I'll abstain from voting (since I don't have all of their albums as of now), but I must say that I really enjoy Movement: it has an almost hypnotic effect on me, and it's so moody and dark. The synths are very primitive sounding, and Barney's voice is distorted and fragile, both of which create a rather eerie sound and atmosphere. I'd even prefer it, as a whole, to Technique, which is much less cohesive (even though it contains a few of my favourite tracks).

Hi Ben,

You may not be Ben for I've been Ben quite long before you. Except if Maya wants two Bens in her virtual life.

Anyway, welcome. And I must say that I agree with your comment on Movement (except the comparison with Technique).

Ben

I've gone for Movement. I don't even bother to listen to that one much now.

I've gone for 'Movement' only because it was a transistional album, today was the first time I have played it for 2 years.

Until recently it was WFTSC now it is Get Ready again. All New Order albums have grown on me and aren't immediate albums (even my favourite, Technique) but despite repeated plays Get Ready has not grown, where WFTSC does reveal subtle charms. Get Ready is just a collection of pleasing enough guitar songs. That's not what I want from New Order. It's also the only album in my opinion not to contain any 'great' songs.

I am surpised movement suffered too. NO was in JD shadow, if you dont like Movement then you are not a true new order fan. These guys also like joy divsion even if both are different style.

Republic is the weakest, though beginning with a "jewel" : Regret.

maybe movement doing badly in this poll is a 'TIME'thing. when it was released it was something so differant and new.cool i suppose.deep moody music was all the rage amongst us ALTERNATIVE types,also i.e. the cure. it was the only new order album we had of course.hence i still love it with great affection and memories.but can understand that if i'd never heard it until now,i might have a differant view of it

Gotta be Movement. It was their first album after JD so a lot of it can be forgiven. But still, it doesn't get played as often as the others!

Richard Latanville wrote: I am surpised movement suffered too. NO was in JD shadow, if you dont like Movement then you are not a true new order fan. These guys also like joy divsion even if both are different style.

I do like 'Movement' but it's definitely my least favourite NO album. It won't be everyones cuppa though and I don't think you can say that someone would not be a true NO fan if they didn't like one particular album. Part of the beauty of the band is that there's something pretty much for everyone.

Julie wrote:

Richard Latanville wrote: I am surpised movement suffered too. NO was in JD shadow, if you dont like Movement then you are not a true new order fan. These guys also like joy divsion even if both are different style.

I do like 'Movement' but it's definitely my least favourite NO album. It won't be everyones cuppa though and I don't think you can say that someone would not be a true NO fan if they didn't like one particular album. Part of the beauty of the band is that there's something pretty much for everyone.

But we do listen to it because its...

NEW ORDER

Richard Latanville wrote:

Julie wrote:

Richard Latanville wrote: I am surpised movement suffered too. NO was in JD shadow, if you dont like Movement then you are not a true new order fan. These guys also like joy divsion even if both are different style.

I do like 'Movement' but it's definitely my least favourite NO album. It won't be everyones cuppa though and I don't think you can say that someone would not be a true NO fan if they didn't like one particular album. Part of the beauty of the band is that there's something pretty much for everyone.

But we do listen to it because its...

NEW ORDER

I've got to say though, some of their stuff I hardly listen to, if at all, even if it is New Order. I still love the band like everyone else here does, I just won't spend time listening to individual tracks that don't do anything for me just because it's New Order. I absolutely love most of their work though so i've still got plenty to listen to :)

Maya was right and I was wrong... WFTSC isn't the fan's least favourite - it's MOVEMENT and REPUBLIC.

Very surprised indeed!

I'd give both these 8 out ten and Siren's 7 out of ten...

I liked republic, but it spends most of its time on my shelf.

As much as I love Crystal and 60 MPH,I still think Get Ready is the black sheep.It distants itself too much from their old sound.At least Republic appeased everyone who liked True Faith and all their other tech-pop stuff but leaving the lad-rock fans into Sunrise and Paradise in the cold.

The album I play the most is Movement now.Despite what everyone says about Hannett ruining it,it sounds like nothing else. Whenever I play Senses and The Him,it still gives me the shivers.I'll have to turn that sub-woofer down!

Low Life.

It bores the hell out of me, bar SubCulture. Though I do like Elegia live.

I put my vote in for Get Ready, because it is the one album that gets put on the least on my playlists. I don't hate it, I just think it will take me longer to get used to it, while WFTSC seemed to bounce right back in to some effect of "the sound" I was looking for.

To its defense, Run Wild and Someone Like You get heavy play, as does Crystal. I'm sure with another year of listening to it, I'll be fully acclimated. Took me a while to see the brilliance* in Technique, too.

(*never mind it involved being influenced to some extent by recreational mood enhancers.)

i do like the some of the tracks of movement, but the least fave coz, its weird

I voted for Get Ready. There's some good tracks on there, but overall, I think that it is a weak album. I know a lot of people tend to not like Republic for some reason, but I don't really like the album Get Ready very much.

movement - then Republic

LOW LIFE is the best

for people voting for TECHNIQUE as least fave - What the fuck are you people on? its a fuckin masterpiece. leave this website NOW!!!!!!!!

Fair analysis there, Mr Kershaw. Although I'd say the first side of Technique is not quite as good as the second side, which is real quality. But to say Technique is rubbish is just weird. Anyway, Low-Life best. Movement then Republic weakest.

NObabe wrote: Fook Conrad you actually voted for Low Life!?!?! I will forgive you but never forget I voted for Republic. The answer is simple (as me ) - Stephen Hague

???Maja, I'm so disappointed It's my fav album! if not their best (!) Up until Republic (exc. Movement) most of their albums didn't have some kind of UNITY (as albums should normally have) (e.g. The Cure's Pornography, Disintegration, PSB's Behaviour, etc). Quite contrary to that, No's albums till 93' sounded more like "singles compilation". But, don't get me wrong! I, nevertheless, like ALL of them. However, with Republic album, I think they reached some sort of symbiosis between the songs....there's this almost "opening" and "ending" of the album....the way Pink Floyd used to make them..... The last two, contrary to your view, are my least fav. I like them but I can't say they are their best albums.

Bere wrote: "Technique" for me... It's soo boring .

Boring Technique - Are you mad?? voted for Republic - apart from Regret, it really isnt very good...

OK. I guess I'm the only one (besides my hubby) who loves Republic. So, the case is lost

Cheers to all of you who voted against it as i'd like to make a deal with you:

whoever doesn't like Republic and uses it as a "dust-keeper", you are more than welcome to send your copy to me. I'll use them every fookin day! I guess that would mean I'd end up with 1543 or so copies of Republic GREAT

Anchor Girl wrote:

NObabe wrote: Fook Conrad you actually voted for Low Life!?!?! I will forgive you but never forget I voted for Republic. The answer is simple (as me ) - Stephen Hague

???Maja, I'm so disappointed It's my fav album! if not their best (!)

Err, but we could still be friends, no? Just don't play World while I'm around. Still I ain't giving up my copy that easily, heh heh! :D

NObabe wrote:

Anchor Girl wrote:

NObabe wrote: Fook Conrad you actually voted for Low Life!?!?! I will forgive you but never forget I voted for Republic. The answer is simple (as me ) - Stephen Hague

???Maja, I'm so disappointed It's my fav album! if not their best (!)

Err, but we could still be friends, no? Just don't play World while I'm around. Still I ain't giving up my copy that easily, heh heh! :D

we ARE friends, but:

"drowning in the endless sea line all those lines the traces of your memory don't belong with mine"

Republic

I voted Get Ready.

I would like to change my vote from Republic to Get Ready, although that's not allowed. Republic isn't great (by NO standards), but it has several winners on it. Get Ready has one classic track (Crystal) and a few good ones (Primitive Notion, etc.), but doesn't jell as well as an album.

Get Ready !

For me.

people who voted for Movement are not true NO fans!

Outoforder wrote: people who voted for Movement are not true NO fans!

I downloaded "Movement" on Ruckus last month. I couldn't get myself into the music.

some people are at the kidding voting for ,

PCL. Lowlife and Technique.

I think you need a reality check.

Outoforder wrote: some people are at the kidding voting for ,

PCL. Lowlife and Technique.

I think you need a reality check.

No, I think you need a reality check.

People are bound to have different opinions to yours. What you may think is a brilliant album may be unlistenable shite to someone else.

E.g. I think Master Of Reality is the best Sabbath album ever made, but two mate so mine disagree completely. One even hates the album. To me, that's fair enough. They can think for themselves.

I'm sad to see that Republic is winning this, cos it's Movement for me, whilst I love Republic. Not a total surprise though.

Movement.

Indeed!

Ironically, one of my all-time fave albums is also one of my not-so-faves at the moment. Not naming names though.