London Bomb rumours ?

There's no sense in pointing a finger of blame to anyone but the organization who has claimed responsibility. Many of us don't agree with the policies of Bush and Blair, but that doesn't justify the murder of innocent people. Likewise, many of us find this radical "form" of Islam to be quite distasteful, but it should not condemn the whole religion.

I'm glad everyone here from London is alright so far that I've seen, and I hope all your friends and family are ok as well.

It's really sad, but it's not helped by scapegoating an entire religion that condemns this sort of thing. Remember, there has been a fatwa issued against Bin Laden and Al Qaeda by Muslim clerics..Islamist militants aren't the same thing as Muslims, they're an extreme right wing political faction.

I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE REFRAIN FROM POLITICAL ARGUEMENTS. Their will be time later but now is time to worry about the innocent victims.

Their seems to be a lot misinformation out their, just like 9/11. Reports of car bombings were everywhere.

Terrorist acts brings out scary behavior out of normal citizens. During the 9/11 attacks, a man grabbed and told me to "pack up because youre going to war". I worked at the closest open photoshop to the WTC. People were bringing film of lost limbs, and other despicable things. I wont go into detail.

This train bombing seems similiar to the spain bombing. I fear that NYC may be next. Its scary because buses, and subways are my lifeline. Really i should worry about regular old fashion crime then terririst acts. More people are murdered by guns in the good old USA each year, then people who died at the WTC.

Hope all is well for you Londoners. I sense a solitary between New Yorkers and Londoners. Their was an errie silentness on public transportation.

FAO Islam's apologists:

The religion is based on the subjugation of women to men-- incidentally, one of the reasons I've written off the Catholic church after they installed the newest fuehrer. Perhaps you don't get out much, so you haven't been hearing about the gang rapes of women in Pakistan as PUNISHMENT FOR THE TRANSGRESSIONS OF THEIR MALE RELATIVES. And what do Islam's leaders have to say about it? Nothing. It's Pakistans secular leader who is trying to stop the practice, primarily to appease his western supporters.

The two countries we are coziest with as "moderate" muslim nations-- Saudi Arabia and Pakistan-- are also the epicenters and most ardent supporters of radical islam. Perhaps you haven't been paying attention to what the muslim community in Europe has been saying about "coexisting" with non-muslims-- they don't believe in it. They hate European society and everything it stands for. Ever hear of Theo Van Gogh? Murdered because he made a film about violence against muslim women in the European muslim community.

Read your history-- Islam was built on armed conquest. True, unlike Christianity, Islam didn't make forceful conversions-- Christians and Jews could either convert to Islam, or pay a tax to remain Christian or Jew. But the fact remains that Islam has had a policy of eradicating other religions wherever it has taken hold. Do you ever hear much about the native religion of Iran? No? Perhaps it's because Islam eradicated it. THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN COEXISTENCE. That's your "religion of peace."

At least 37 people died so far. Damn you, terrorists! I hope you all burn in hell, you miserable bastards!! Good to know all our noolers are fine, thank God for that.

I felt completely sick when I found out about this at work today and I can't even begin to imagine what it must be like in London at the moment. I hope everyone from here in the area, along with family, friends and loved ones, are safexxx

bLuE oRdEr wrote: FAO Islam's apologists:

The religion is based on the subjugation of women to men-- incidentally, one of the reasons I've written off the Catholic church after they installed the newest fuehrer.

a) name one major religion where women are given equal standing to men.

b) regarding the role of women in islam: this is generally based on cultural practice rather than religious doctrine and varies from household to household, country to country, and region to region. what about the role of khadija in islamic history and the recognition of her power and influence? or aisha's role as a transmitter of hadith? or in the modern day, the election of benazir bhutto? when you were in amman or istanbul, how many women did you see wearing hijab? or...have you not been to a predominately muslim country before? have you ever asked a muslim woman why she wears hijab? do you know what the qur'an states regarding the proper dress code of women and men?

Ever hear of Theo Van Gogh? Murdered because he made a film about violence against muslim women in the European muslim community.

ok, what about alan berg? he was killed by christian extremists for being an outspoken (jewish) advocate of gun control and gay rights in america. are all christians responsible for his death?

But the fact remains that Islam has had a policy of eradicating other religions wherever it has taken hold.

name one major religion that hasn't done that?

Dear God, sorry to disturb you but...I feel that I should be heard loud and clearWe all need a big reduction in amount of tearsAnd all the people that you made in your imageSee them fighting in the street'Cause they can't make opinions meet about God...You're always letting us humans downThe wars you bring, the babes you drownThose lost at sea and never foundAnd it's the same the whole world 'roundThe hurt I see helps to compound:The father, son and holy ghostIs just somebody's unholy hoaxAnd if you're up there you'll perceiveThat my heart's here upon my sleeveIf there's one thing I don't believe in,It's You,Dear God.

All extremists of all religions should go & fcuk themselves. I am a Christian but have no time for extremists - it's they that give religions a bad name

Latest updates from the 2012 Olympic hosts, who will not be defeated (don't people ever learn, London and Londoners are indestructible).....

37 confirmed dead, though I had sight of a Cabinet Office internal brief a few hours ago that put the toll at 43. 700+ injured.

I've just got home after a 5 hour journey (usually takes 90 minutes). I'm one of the lucky ones to be going home, there's a lot of people who can't, and sadly some who never will again.

I was in two minds about the Digital gig tomorrow night, but we cannot bow in the face of oppression. We cannot give in, we cannot show those who wish to deny our right to life that we can be beaten. Life goes on. The show goes on.

Well said.

Andrew Sayer wrote: All extremists of all religions should go & fcuk themselves. I am a Christian but have no time for extremists - it's they that give religions a bad name

My point exactly. Fundamentalists-- do it my way or die-- of whatever brand of religion can go fuck off.

What can i say that has`nt been said yet? Fucking sickened by this, glad you guys are ok!!

Aye, it wasn't Muslims but Chritstians acting in the name of their religion who attacked Canry wharf, manchester, Omagh, Lemans House, and their crowning glory in the name of their god....an attack on army HORSES. It was cristians acting in the name of their God who threw stones at the children of other christians for being a teeny bit different in belfast while the rest of the world was reeling from 11/09/01, it was business as usual for us northern irish scum.

I've had enough of living in a world ruled by the undereducated, supersticious fuckwitts and having their will imposed on me by laws and or terrorism.

Condolences of a New Order fan from Spain.We know too much about the pain and the fury. I give yo an advice:

YOU MUST BE UNITE, THE GUILTIES ARE ONLY THE FUCKING TERRORISTS.

I want to see my family - my wife & child waiting for me. Heard that anywhere ? Peace friends

The Spanish are no stranger to this spcies of asshole, so honestly take it from me and our spanish friend here. Once you know that you and yours are OK......go out tonight and have a HUGE party. The point of terrorism is to instill terror, remove that, you defeat the terrorists in a far more profounf ( though admittedly less satisfying way) than killing them off.

So you soft southern shites, you pearly ponces......it's 26 pints and 25 Chrouses of "ozzy bin laden is a horses arse".

It kept us going here for years, I'm sure the Spanigh adopted a simillar tactic with that serperatist lot.

/me drops his trousers at the terrosists .."terrorise this, pigfucker...I'm off to the bar"

The first thing I thought is that it was frenches guilt!

Just got off work, and heard about how 37 people are dead and 700 wounded

I just hope that the guys who did this get caught or tracked down (unlike the mastermind of our attack in '01, who'se running free and clear while we decide "hey, Saddam's really pissing us off!"), and I anticipate the legendary British reluctance to put anyone to death to be suspended.

I don't know about you, but the group that claimed credit for this ("The Islamic Jihad of the Taliban" or whatever) sounds questionable. Don't rule out the possibility that this is homegrown (remember how everyone thought Arabs were behind Oklahoma City?)

If there's anything good that can be said about this, it's that this didn't happen a week earlier. Wimbeldon was in full swing, the Live 8 concert there was massive, if this had happened then it might have been even more devestating than it already is.

London has officially joined New York and Madrid as being the greatest city on earth because they can survive this.

I personally have little doubt that those who carried out todays attacks were 'homegrown' so to speak.

As for Belfast/London, having lived in and studied Northern Ireland greatly, its a bit unfair to compare todays to the northern ireland conflict. This is a one off attack in a wider context of a 'war on terror' as well as other global issues (israel and the palestinians etc) and was bigger than any other (in terms of fatalities) of any of the conflict in Ireland, the biggest in ireland was, i believe, in Omagh in 98. And of course, the conflict over there was primarily domestic, (despite what some people would tell you) while today was an international issue.

Uncle Liam wrote: I personally have little doubt that those who carried out todays attacks were 'homegrown' so to speak.

As for Belfast/London, having lived in and studied Northern Ireland greatly, its a bit unfair to compare todays to the northern ireland conflict. This is a one off attack in a wider context of a 'war on terror' as well as other global issues (israel and the palestinians etc) and was bigger than any other (in terms of fatalities) of any of the conflict in Ireland, the biggest in ireland was, i believe, in Omagh in 98. And of course, the conflict over there was primarily domestic, (despite what some people would tell you) while today was an international issue.

I think the comparisons are made to show that London has not only survived previous attacks (though none like this since the war), and that there's a certain amount of experience with similar bombings. Again, you're right in that this is a totally new occurance, but I hope London can rise up from this.

Uncle Liam wrote: I personally have little doubt that those who carried out todays attacks were 'homegrown' so to speak.

As for Belfast/London, having lived in and studied Northern Ireland greatly, its a bit unfair to compare todays to the northern ireland conflict. This is a one off attack in a wider context of a 'war on terror' as well as other global issues (israel and the palestinians etc) and was bigger than any other (in terms of fatalities) of any of the conflict in Ireland, the biggest in ireland was, i believe, in Omagh in 98. And of course, the conflict over there was primarily domestic, (despite what some people would tell you) while today was an international issue.

Doubt you were around in the 70's mate when we had body counts like today's every coupla weeks. And London took plenty then too ( and weathered it). Only city in the world where an item of standard equipment on every police vehicle was a "torso shovel".

Beauty of it is....we're fine now, cos our terrorist cunts bought lots of their bombs and guns from the very terrorist cunts the rest of the world has bother with.

Someone mentioned the UK changing it's laws to allow execution of these people? No need, Gibraltar....pop pop pop, three less terrorists. And endless little stoppings on dark border roads thinned out their numbers too. Funny how many people howled and whined about "aren't the brits bastards" back then, imagine, summarary justice on unlawful combatants, who'd allow it. MY only problem with the shoot to kill policy here was that it was FAR too one sided and not nearly enough of the loyalist scum got lead implants.

Terrorists are small penised little losers, their views never represent those of "their people"....you can be sure of that, because if "their people" agreed....they'd have an army of millions not a band of fucktards that hear the voice of $DEITY.

SERIOUSLY.....open London for business tomorrow morning and it'll tie a knot in the filthy blackenned guts.

All I can say is I hope everyone in our contingent is accounted for and that I hope London will heal soon. What a fucking waste.

His Holiness, The Pope wrote: All I can say is I hope everyone in our contingent is accounted for and that I hope London will heal soon. What a fucking waste.

Yep. Best wishes for the London Order.

I am truely sorry and disturbed by events. My codolences. I am impressed by the reaction of the emergency services, and the British people.

The best we can do is to carry on with our lives and not let terrorism intimmidate and defeat us.

After watching it on the telly last night I just had to turn down the sound and put on some english music.

Blue Order, read Speer's Inside The Third Reich. Interesting comments on "Mohamadism." Speer says that that Hitler argued that Germany had the wrong religion.

Surely they are all wrong?

twist wrote: Blue Order, read Speer's Inside The Third Reich. Interesting comments on "Mohamadism." Speer says that that Hitler argued that Germany had the wrong religion.

Hitler also wanted to discourage Odinism because he thought it would lead Germans away from Christ.

...Hitler was also a syphilitic meth head, so I wouldn't doubt that he said many contradictory things.