Suicidal tendancies

Sorry for posting such a negative thread, if its any consolation reading the replies has made me think more positively about life. :substance:

Bugg Tutts wrote: Sorry for posting such a negative thread, if its any consolation reading the replies has made me think more positively about life. :substance:

Well as some round here who has had his fair share of CRAP(long story but maybe tell you over a pint or two one day) all i can say is POSITIVE is the way forward.I used to think i was on the CREST OF A SLUMP and HAVING A GOOD RUN OF BAD LUCK.But me ma said to me before was ill for 14 years"OUR MIKE-YOU ARE ONE SAD BASTARD".Cheered me up no end.I know NOW that i was meant to be UNHAPPY!

Bugg Tutts wrote: Sorry for posting such a negative thread, if its any consolation reading the replies has made me think more positively about life. :substance:

Glad to be of help! Now you know where to come, should you need any help again. Try and take some of the advice that has been posted, though. There's no shame in getting help if you need it.:)

Don't commit suicide, its not worth it. You'll just come back as someone else to finish out. I've tried 3 times all ready and I figured that I had a purpose, so I stopped with the non-sense of wanting to hurt myself. All it does is cause a lot of pain for your family. and a chick isn't means for killing oneself. :D

As I believe I mentioned this very day ( day for me being about 300 hours I think)...if you lot tried to admin this place like a sensible forum, particularly BCD, you;d go mental and the place would be a fucking desert. Better just shout "fuck" and leap in :D

Shug wrote: I've only glanced through this thread, some interesting points raised and well thought out responses.

Now CHEER UP ya miserable fuckers

I know, I know, us moderators should know better :D

I'm with you shug..I've seen this shit close up and it selfish an unfathomable and lasts for ever with those left behind..Its wrong.

The thing with depression is you're not thinking rationally. When you're depressed, you're not thinking about the effect it will have on the people you leave behind (I'm not including the thoughts of those who are thinking "When I'm gone yo'll be sorry"). What you're thinking about-- obsessively-- is whatever has got you depressed.

So you break up with someone, and if it transitions from situational depression to clinical depression, you think non-stop, 24 hours per day. 7 days a week, about the breakup, about the person you broke up with, about wanting that person back, about all the good times you had, about that person being with someone new, about not wanting anybody else but that person, about never finding somebody again, about nobody ever wanting you again, about never being in a relationship again, etc. etc. etc.

You start to dwell on this, and it's a downward spiral, and suicide seems like a way-- the only way-- to end your suffering. The last thing you're thinking about is how it will affect the people you leave behind.

I didn't really get that part about the people you leave behind until this past year. I drove from Oregon to New York last January, and it turned out my mother was really worried-- really worried. She didn't want me to die on the road (and she has no idea how close I came... ), and that was the first time I thought about the impact my death would have on someone else. And then a couple of months ago, at my cousins funeral, seeing my mother crying-- something she never does-- sealed it. I could never do that to her.

Years ago, back in 1983, I was in a fooked up relationship with a woman I was crazy about. Thought about suicide daily. Thought about it, planned it, practiced it daily. Then one day I went for a ride on my motorcycle (a passive suicide attempt, that motorcycle). I rode all the way to the end of a country road, then turned around and headed back to town. The sun was in my eyes, and I couldn't see out the visor, so I raised the visor, and suddenly, all the green of that beautiful spring day flooded in. It was the most beautiful, intense, living green I had ever seen. It was spring, and the world was alive. I decided in that moment that I didn't want to die. Later, after I had gotten over her, I decided that if I could get over her, I could get over anything, and that I would never kill myself over any woman-- that nobody is worth dieing over. Now when I look back at her, I wonder what I ever saw in her-- she was beautiful, sure, but we had nothing in common. Nothing. I mean nothing in common to the point that I actually find her unappealing. Time changes your perspective.

I've been depressed over failed relationships since then, including feeling suicidal. But I got help the last time, and now I understand what I'm doing to myself-- that I beat myself up mercilessly with all those negative messages I play over and over and over in my head. So when I start to slip into that, I recognize it for what it is-- me beating myself up with negative messages that simply aren't true. And now, I do what I can to head all that off by taking care of myself-- through exercise, proper nutrition, sleep. It's all part of brain care, which I actually started to deal with my ADD, but which also prevents depression. I take care of my brain, and that keeps me functioning and stops me from slipping into that kind of despair.

Wise words, Comrade Sham

Brave words.

Thank you for sharing them.

The inexpensive cognitive behavior therapy starter kit consists of a rubber band (gum band, Brits?) that your wear around your wrist. When your brain latches onto a negative thought and you start to obsess, give the band a good stretch and snap yourself. Then say, "No! Bad brain!"

Like I said, it's a cheap start until you can get some actual help.

rubber band is fine, we would also accept elastic band.

You dumbass hasn't that country taught you anything?

Buy lots of quite thick rubber bands (50,000 for 20 bucks would seem about right) get a rubber stamp. Stamp each one "cogno-ther:3000".... $89.95 for a pack of 3

EDIT: obviously you advise it could be VERy dangerous to attmept this without your book (you think of a title, i'm not doing youtr whole busines plan for you)...a mere snip at $39.95 softcover and a complete steal at $69.95 for the hardcover.

Meester Tutts wrote: Not the happiest of topics, but since I split with my long time girlfriend ,two years ago, my life seems to have descended into misery. Am I depressed? I think about topping myself at least once a day. My mood swings from happy to sad at the drop of a hat. Whats a bugg tutt like me to do?

buggtutt@hotmail.co.uk

CALL THE SAMARITANS ON 0845 7 90 90 90 (if you're in the UK, if not go see a doctor ASAP).

Counselling can make a big difference. Don't waste your life: You can find happiness again, but it's important that you get help with your grief.

Best wishes.

well the above reply (mr waters) regarding the samaritans is the most sane reply. as for doctors all they will do is shovel you pills and shout NEXT?. other than that the best advice you will ever get is to cheer up yer miserable twat. it was two years ago TWO FUCKIN YEARS,you cant blame your current state of mind on that,get over it and move the fuck on. after the year ive had i should be a basket case,but bollocks i say,ill go on an keep on keeping on cos things do get better,been there done it ect. now for some proper life rebuilding advice,SMILE IT GOES MILES.

mike powell wrote: well the above reply (mr waters) regarding the samaritans is the most sane reply. as for doctors all they will do is shovel you pills and shout NEXT?. other than that the best advice you will ever get is to cheer up yer miserable twat. it was two years ago TWO FUCKIN YEARS,you cant blame your current state of mind on that,get over it and move the fuck on. after the year ive had i should be a basket case,but bollocks i say,ill go on an keep on keeping on cos things do get better,been there done it ect. now for some proper life rebuilding advice,SMILE IT GOES MILES.

Sorry i can not agree. Depression is not a mood that you can just snap out of. Depression can however be trated. Different things affect people differently. Sometimes there may not even be an immediately identifiable cause. It is hard for people who haven't gone through it to understand, but statistics indicate that one in five people will go through an episode however long of depression. So chances are that you know somebody, or someone in your family is going through it, as I write this.