Saw Da Vinci Code last night

Hallelujah!! Thank you Bere, I loved the movie too!!

I actually have a good friend who is Catholic and quite religious, who has read the book. She has a very open mind and found the book very interesting and will also see the movie.

Barnette wrote: Some would say it's a fictional story based on a fictional story

Quite true!

NOOLigan wrote: I know there are other gospels out there. Anybody who cares can perform a quick google search and find gospels of Thomas, Mary, Peter etc online. That stuff is out there.

I did say put up that article as an alternative and do not neessarily agree with all points. I'm not telling you where I stand on Christ's divinity.

Anyway I shouldn't even be here right now.:D

It's well known that the early Christian leaders held forums and basically decided which gospels should and should not go in the bible. What we have is not necessarily the word of God but what those early leaders felt should be in there based on personal beliefs. I find the discovery of the Gospel of Judas quite interesting, though I'm not a religious person meself. I've also known about the Mary Magdelene one, and saw a recent TV show where they said she wasn't really a prostitute but was confused with another Mary who was in the same place at the same time. Also said the Jesus wasn't necessarily a carpenter, as whatever word it is that's normally translated as carpenter really means "someone who works with his hands". So, not only are certain gospels in or out, but there are different ways to translate much of the bible, which can significantly change the overall meaning.

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Shellshocker wrote: Thanks for the review, Scattermcbrain. It sounds like they changed too much stuff for my taste but I'll see it anyway. I have Memoirs of a Geisha but haven't read it yet, so I can't see the movie yet. So no spoilers!

Don't know what it is, but my wife and her friends (all Japanese) do not like the "memoirs of a geisha". They haven't seen or read it, but the "word on the street" is that it is an Americanized idea of what geisha were, not what they really were and meant to Japanese culture.

I haven't seen the movie, and want to see it so I can confirm this or not. . .but need to talk the wife into watch it with me, as I hate watching movies alone.

JHC

My best friend's wife is Japanese, so I guess I'll have to find out if she has a similar distaste for it. I still plan to see the movie & read the book though!

Bere wrote: Well, I liked the movie. I read the book before and I must admit that they did a good job in making a film out of it. And I was surprised how good looking Tom Hanks can be.

It's ridiculous what hype the churches made about all this. I bet they neither read the book, nor saw the movie.

Glad to hear you (and Barnette's Catholic friend) liked it. Now I'm looking more forward to seeing it!

NOOLigan wrote: ok i get your point. i did have a look at some of those other gospels i mentioned before. nothing much that challenges christ's divinity actually sprand out at me. So, even if they were included, i don't think the central argument would be harmed.

P. S. did you really think a christian defending his faith would include non-canon source material.

I have posted that article because it provides some good historical information, such as what actually happend at the council of Nicea.

True. I'm not religious but I find this stuff very interesting. I had a little knowledge of the council of Nicea but it's nice to see some of it summarized here.

I pity all people who's faith depend on JC's sex life. No matter if he was married or got children - He was what he was and he did what he did...

Bere wrote: I pity all people who's faith depend on JC's sex life. No matter if he was married or got children - He was what he was and he did what he did...

Exactly. No one could claim he led a perfect life in his youth either. What difference does it make if he was married? Is that a sin?

Shellshocker wrote:

Bere wrote: I pity all people who's faith depend on JC's sex life. No matter if he was married or got children - He was what he was and he did what he did...

Exactly. No one could claim he led a perfect life in his youth either. What difference does it make if he was married? Is that a sin?

of course its not, but some people can not imagine it could be truth - 2000 years wasted, hehe.

Finally saw DaVinci Code. I thought they kept about as faithful to the book as one could expect in 2.5 hours. Sure, they got rid of some of the sleuthing (bad) and the romance aspect (good) but I thought they did a pretty good job. The end wasn't entirely satisfying. I read the book about 2 years ago, so I don't remember the end too well, so I can't say if they did that well or not. As a movie to the nonreader, I thought it was good, and entertaining, though again, I probably wouldn't have been too thrilled with the end. A bit anticlimactic.

the davinci code (a book based on dodgy facts)? the bible (a book based on dodgy facts)?

did mr brown write both of these books?.

No offence to those who have a Christian faith but the church seems to be saying "this is an arrogant, unprovable fantasy, don't believe it - you should believe our arrogant, unprovable fantasy instead!

The Church should be getting down on all fours and kissing a certain part of Mr. Brown's anatomy for all the free publicity they're getting in return for this. The newscasts have been dominated with religious-types venting their spleen about the movie/book/tie-in breakfast cereal, and I'm betting a lot of people who wouldn't ordinarily even think of cracking open a Bible will start saying to themselves "wonder what that's all about?"

Short of Tom Hanks shoving a crucifix up his anus, there's really nothing for the churchies to get all upset about

Anyone who studied Church history and familiar with writings of the first Christians would find this book boring and crappy.

It really makes noise only among faith-blinded and ignorant readers.

I'm agnostic, and I LOVED the film! I haven't read the book yet (I will be doing so shortly) but I still enjoyed it. I hate all the criticism the film has received - specially by those from the Church. It's like, get over it. The Da Vinci Code is PURE FICTION!!

Religion is such a topic of controversy.

They say that religion and politics are the two subjects not to be discussed at the dinner table, but I think religion is worse. People get so touchy!

Saw it today. Dont belive a word of it really,but as fiction i think the books good and they did a fairly good job at turning it into a film.

[orange]steve[/orange][black]one[/black] wrote: Saw it today. Dont belive a word of it really,but as fiction i think the books good and they did a fairly good job at turning it into a film.

My thoughts exactly!

Craig W wrote: 75% through the book now; the theories in it are very interesting.

Not surprised that the film is crap- It's basically a prolonged car chase with a tonne of conspiracy theory exposition.

Craig W, is that your computer in your avatar? If so, whats wrong with it?

Me and Lorri saw it a week ago.

The film was crap.

I wanted to slash the seats. :evil:

Shellshocker wrote: They say that religion and politics are the two subjects not to be discussed at the dinner table, but I think religion is worse. People get so touchy!

People need to get talking about things like this though; informal societal rules that suppress this kind of discussion only promote a totalitarian society that America is unfortunately drifting towards.