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Another nut job, described as "early 20 white male with mohawk haircut, black trenchcoat and a long point gun" entered in the Dawson College, one of the few english college we have here (schools for technical jobs and general to go to University we have here, equivalent of the last year of high school in the USA)
Apparently 3 persons in serious condition, 3 others injured.
This world has gone mad... 
I'd like to add that I was at my desk in work today when I first heard about this news. I have a special connection to Montreal you see, as my great great grandmother's uncle once farted in some poutine there.
I really feel it.
Shellshocker wrote: Sad to see that the Columbine copycats are all over now.
Columbine wasn't the first time someone shot up a school. Bob Geldof made a lot of money off of someone doing it ages ago.
C-Ro wrote: I'd like to add that I was at my desk in work today when I first heard about this news. I have a special connection to Montreal you see, as my great great grandmother's uncle once farted in some poutine there.
I really feel it.
Aaah, so that's what you meant.Sorry i read you wrong
Yeah, it's the 3rd time we had this type of thing in Montreal.. first time was in 1989 when a nut entered the engineering school of the University of Montreal (Montreal Polytechnic) and killed 14 women.
There was a professor in 1992 who killed 4 people apparently about some patents for research...
And now this. Been following, it's a total mess, it will take a few days to get this right, the shooter is dead, seems like he's the only one dead now, about 6 people are in critical state, but they don't face death as we speak... hopefully it will remain that way.
Cheers.
Now maybe this doesn't apply to these guys as they are in universities...but does anyone think these think these shootings are linked to "no fighting" policies on schoolgrounds?
When I was a kid, if someone picked on you, you got in a fight. If the teacher found out about the fight, the bully got punished and nothing happened to the one defending themselves.
Nowadays, if anyone gets into a fight, they both get in the same amount of trouble. No matter the reason.
It seems that this would lead to the kids being bullied to not stand up for themselves, push these feelings down deep only later to explode into a Columbine incident.
Just a thought.
EdelBrock wrote: Now maybe this doesn't apply to these guys as they are in universities...but does anyone think these think these shootings are linked to "no fighting" policies on schoolgrounds?
When I was a kid, if someone picked on you, you got in a fight. If the teacher found out about the fight, the bully got punished and nothing happened to the one defending themselves.
Nowadays, if anyone gets into a fight, they both get in the same amount of trouble. No matter the reason.
It seems that this would lead to the kids being bullied to not stand up for themselves, push these feelings down deep only later to explode into a Columbine incident.
Just a thought.
Wow... sir, are you an advocate of violence?
:)
No, no
But I think fights are SOMETIMES a part of life at a young age. Bullies and those defending themselves should not be treated equally.....that makes as much sense as jailing the thief and the victim of the thief with the same sentence. What sense is that?
Missy Jem wrote:
Sadly it seems to happen all to often these days.
What frequency is right for this kind of thing then?
I'd say two a year worldwide would be the minimum. How many is too often?
EdelBrock wrote: Now maybe this doesn't apply to these guys as they are in universities...but does anyone think these think these shootings are linked to "no fighting" policies on schoolgrounds?
When I was a kid, if someone picked on you, you got in a fight. If the teacher found out about the fight, the bully got punished and nothing happened to the one defending themselves.
Nowadays, if anyone gets into a fight, they both get in the same amount of trouble. No matter the reason.
It seems that this would lead to the kids being bullied to not stand up for themselves, push these feelings down deep only later to explode into a Columbine incident.
Just a thought.
I agree with you, partially. When I was a freshman and sophomore in high school, this group of guys in my homeroom always made fun of me. In one incident, I was reading an issue of Circus magazine for it's article on Smashing pumpkins and they started calling me a satanist and devil worshipper, over and over. The teacher didn't seem to see anything, so I just lifted up my desk and moved it behind a filing cabinet. The teacher then asks me, "What's wrong?" As a sophomore, those same kids were calling me a "faggot" and "homo" during an assembly, but instead of turning around to punch them, I told the teacher this time. The teacher basically said, "What do you expect me to do? If you don't like this advisory, go to another homeroom." A month or so later, one of those guys started harasshing me in homeroom again. After the teacher left the room, I just turned around and punched him. When the teacher came back, the entire homeroom is telling him I punched this kid. The teacher says, "I didn't see anything." The kid no longer messed with me for the rest of the year and for the next two years.
Now, I eventually got pushed, but not enough to bring guns to school and shoot everyone. I did get pushed, especially after this teacher wasn't listening to me and told me that it's not his problem.
This blue-eyed boy that wants to be wrote:
Now, I eventually got pushed, but not enough to bring guns to school and shoot everyone. I did get pushed, especially after this teacher wasn't listening to me and told me that it's not his problem.
That's sad. But on the other hand you were not in a school. You were in a university, an adult among adults, so that teacher probably thought it wasn't right to give an adult an advice. Well typical human indifference... :(
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This blue-eyed boy that wants to be wrote:
Now, I eventually got pushed, but not enough to bring guns to school and shoot everyone. I did get pushed, especially after this teacher wasn't listening to me and told me that it's not his problem.
That's sad. But on the other hand you were not in a school. You were in a university, an adult among adults, so that teacher probably thought it wasn't right to give an adult an advice. Well typical human indifference... :(
This wasn't at a university. This was back when I used to go to a public high school back in Philadelphia.
In Montreal it was pretty disturbing today. It was also pretty brutal here, we had 2 apparent suicide/murders (love related) in Toronto. I think it's all a result of individuals who become fairly imbalanced upstairs while no one else seems to notice until it's too late. Not saying it's anyone's fault but just by the population/numbers this is bound to happen somewhere on the planet every few minutes. It's really hard to know what's going on in anyone's head let alone someone who is usually very private.
Still it's very sad for the victims who have nothing to do with the person's mental health.
This blue-eyed boy that wants to be wrote:
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This blue-eyed boy that wants to be wrote:
Now, I eventually got pushed, but not enough to bring guns to school and shoot everyone. I did get pushed, especially after this teacher wasn't listening to me and told me that it's not his problem.
That's sad. But on the other hand you were not in a school. You were in a university, an adult among adults, so that teacher probably thought it wasn't right to give an adult an advice. Well typical human indifference... :(
This wasn't at a university. This was back when I used to go to a public high school back in Philadelphia.
and you know, I have noticed too many times that a fight stops instances like you described fast...sometimes resulting in some good friendships....whereas, nonviolence only eggs it on.
Might have been an indifferent teacher, but at least he allowed for you to handle it on your own...not do a reversal because physical violence became involved. I'd prefer a teacher like that any day over the over-protective ones my son has now.
Diamond White wrote:
Missy Jem wrote:
Sadly it seems to happen all to often these days.
What frequency is right for this kind of thing then?
I'd say two a year worldwide would be the minimum. How many is too often?
Once is too often, what I was trying to say is that it's happened before and will happen again - very sad.
EdelBrock wrote:
I'd prefer a teacher like that any day over the over-protective ones my son has now.
Show that teacher some violence, ha ha 
EdelBrock wrote: Now maybe this doesn't apply to these guys as they are in universities...but does anyone think these think these shootings are linked to "no fighting" policies on schoolgrounds?
When I was a kid, if someone picked on you, you got in a fight. If the teacher found out about the fight, the bully got punished and nothing happened to the one defending themselves.
Nowadays, if anyone gets into a fight, they both get in the same amount of trouble. No matter the reason.
It seems that this would lead to the kids being bullied to not stand up for themselves, push these feelings down deep only later to explode into a Columbine incident.
Just a thought.
I was picked on heavily in elementary school, right up through about the last two years of high school. Varying degrees, and in high school, it became much more covert (rumor spreading, sigh..) instead of the straight up namecalling, prejudice and practical jokes that permiated my elementary/middle school experience. I was too a victim of the "No Violence, PERIOD", PC bullshit that permiated the 1990s. In the 5th grade, as I recall, I tried to stand up to bullies, only to end up in a special class for kids with emotional issues 
, as the other kids did have some behavioral problems, some I believe were bullies themselves!
Maybe it would have been better if I could've defended myself, instead of shrugging and saying "Success is the best revenge". Developed a thicker skin, not carrying so much internal anger and hostility at the world, etc.
I blame it on music 
In my day we all listened to the Smiths and wished girls would speak to us. These days it's all guns and dry anal rape.
Reminds me once when I was in high school, probably 3rd grade of high school, the worst bully in our year was picking on me while we were doing sports (playing ball hockey in a gym), and once I had enough, I punched him and we started a fight that didn't last too long.
I ended up with a black eye, he ended up with a nose bleed.
I have no idea where was the teacher that day, I went to see him, to "turn myself in", I explained the whole situation, and all he said was "well done" 
Nothing else!
The guy never did anything to me afterwards, and 2 years later in our senior year, in our year book, I noticed the guy who wrote his "biography" talked about my hit on his nose as something he never liked... 2 and a half year later
I'm not violent at all, but don't push me too far, you might regret it ;)
Spotnick wrote: ...the worst bully in our year was picking on me...
Any idea where he lives now, Nic?
I always thought Canada was ultra safe and they did`nt have a gun problem. Obviously an American on holiday...
...(joke).
not to make light of this but on the news last night they interviewed a girl that was there, she was probably around 19, she said "i saw this guy with big black boots, a long black jacket and a retarded haircut, carrying a machine gun..."
at least they killed the Ba$tard, has anyone died?
J.A.K wrote: The mobile phone footage was crap.
someone have a shaky hand or something.
hahahhahahah you'd have thought they were being shot at or something!
The Steve One Side Project wrote: I always thought Canada was ultra safe and they did`nt have a gun problem. Obviously an American on holiday...
more guns per person in Canada!
Oh they've gone one step further now. It's not just music's fault... It's now a website's fault!!!
http://vampirefreaks.com/ is the one to blame today.
