Robo Calls?!??!!?!?! Are you effing kidding me??????

You know at one point I thought John McCain was one of the better elephants......but to hire a communications company to make Robo calls falsifying information about Barack Obama's relationship with Bill Ayers is beyond despicable. On top of that, he hires the same company that made Robo calls against him in 2000 that he "repudiated", as he so loves using that word as of late. And he's down double digits in the polls right now......He's getting disparate. Colin Powell even turned his back on him! I know the far right is preying for a "bradley effect", but I'm starting to feel more and more confident.

What a friggin hippocrite that McCain fella is, seriously! He even said publicly that Obama is a decent man and that about Ayers, he doesnt care about some "washed up terrorist". Yet, he's paying for these nasty robo calls which people in his own party are condemning. Well, hey, he's always been a Maverick, right?!

J

sorry buddy, this is getting very tired. Isn't there better forums for this or keep it to one thread?

What the frig is a Robo call?........I know the Rovers keeper's been injured for a couple of weeks but surely he ain't so hard up that he has to resort to canvassing votes for some US pensioner..........

scrimshanker wrote: sorry buddy, this is getting very tired. Isn't there better forums for this or keep it to one thread?

Tiring?? Apparently the whole country is still talking about this, is this tiring for most americans?

And which Forum should I post this instead in? World In Motion? How about NO Side Projects?

J

.........and theres only one Maverick........Tiny Tom Fuckin' Cruise man........ yeah baby!!!!!!!!!!!

how bout not neworderonline.com

Alf wrote: What the frig is a Robo call?........I know the Rovers keeper's been injured for a couple of weeks but surely he ain't so hard up that he has to resort to canvassing votes for some US pensioner..........

A pre-recorded automatic call that states claims which are meant to scare you away from your political opponent.

example: you pick up the phone, a pre recorded voice says "Hello. I am calling to let you know that Barack Obama has had a relationship with radical terrorist Bill Ayers....yada yada yada.....this message is endorsed by the McCain/Palin campaign."

J

scrimshanker wrote: how bout not neworderonline.com

With all due respect, how about instead of criticizing a thread of mine that does not interest you, why don't you just show your disinterest by NOT CONTRIBUTING TO IT! I've read threads on here all the time which meant nothing to me....do I mock the starter of the thread? No. I just don't participate in the discussion. That makes sense, right?

J

i'm not criticizing your thread, as it was a suggestion. On the sane side, you see if there are similiar topics they will be locked. Its not an insult.

Jeffari-al-Texani wrote:

No Holiday wrote:

scrimshanker wrote: sorry buddy, this is getting very tired. Isn't there better forums for this or keep it to one thread?

Tiring?? Apparently the whole country is still talking about this, is this tiring for most americans?

And which Forum should I post this instead in? World In Motion? How about NO Side Projects?

J

I believe he meant other forums than NOOL. Something like

www.i'moneofthesheepthatlikestolickobama'snutsack.com

I also believe that by tiring, Jonno was referring to you making new threads to express your disdain for Senator McCain. We all know you don't like the man, so why the need to start yet another thread about it?

I have OCD and I care about the election. I'm sorry for starting a thread about a current relevant topic that affects both of us, Jeff. The United States Presidency.

J

scrimshanker wrote: i'm not criticizing your thread, as it was a suggestion. On the sane side, you see if there are similiar topics they will be locked. Its not an insult.

The previous John McCain thread turned into a discussion about foreign and domestic economic policy, as witnessed by the last 10 posts in the thread. I just felt this was another topic, albeit still about John McCain.

J

Jeffari-al-Texani wrote:

No Holiday wrote:

I have OCD and I care about the election. I'm sorry for starting a thread about a current relevant topic that affects both of us, Jeff. The United States Presidency.

J

WHO FUCKING CARES IF YOU HAVE OCD?!?!?!

You could have stuck this mess in your "Yet Another Reason To Hate John McCain" thread. How dense are you???

May I ask you something with all due respect?? You seem like an intelligent guy, Degree in History is admirable i'll give you that.....so why is your avatar of the Confederate flag? You know what that flag symbolizes I would imagine. Do you share those ideologies? Do you dislike black people? I'm jewish, do you hate me?

J

MLINH - you really are a knob. I've a picture of Osama Bin L - so that obviously means i wank him off eh. Tit. Only wish i could pass you a confed flag sticker to put over your gobshite mouth. Beat this - i've a confed sticker on me car boot (im probs more pro-jewish than you are & also have black friends/muslims) BUT i happen to love Elvis, always have & always will so digest that. Just cos some person has a flag does not mean they vote W.A.R or follow Tom Metzger et al.. Now piss off on real holiday

Jeffari-al-Texani wrote:

No Holiday wrote: ]

May I ask you something with all due respect?? You seem like an intelligent guy, Degree in History is admirable i'll give you that.....so why is your avatar of the Confederate flag? You know what that flag symbolizes I would imagine. Do you share those ideologies? Do you dislike black people? I'm jewish, do you hate me?

J

I tell you what. You tell me what that flag symbolizes. We'll go from there.

I thought we already figured it out on the sane side that it means you back Barney and the rest of New Order that we should all start lynching in our neighborhoods.

Jeffari-al-Texani wrote:

No Holiday wrote: ]

May I ask you something with all due respect?? You seem like an intelligent guy, Degree in History is admirable i'll give you that.....so why is your avatar of the Confederate flag? You know what that flag symbolizes I would imagine. Do you share those ideologies? Do you dislike black people? I'm jewish, do you hate me?

J

I tell you what. You tell me what that flag symbolizes. We'll go from there.

Well, if memory serves me right, the flag was first put up during the Civil War between 1861-1865 representing the southern states that seceded from the rest of the U.S. in which black people were sold and treated as slaves. So to me, the Confederate Flag symbolizes racism, white power, and southern hicks.....What does the confederate flag symbolize to you? I know your name is Jeff. Is your last name Davis by any chance?

And for the record Andrew "Leo" Sayer, you don't have to respond for another man on this board. What are you, Jeffari's pet or something? And I saw your avatar, and saw immediately that it was satirical of the Low Life cover (sorry for stating the obvious, as you make me).

Jeffari's avatar is just the flag. I don't know if there is irony in that or what.....What would you think if I had a swastika as my avatar?

J

No Holiday wrote: May I ask you something with all due respect?? You seem like an intelligent guy, Degree in History is admirable i'll give you that.....so why is your avatar of the Confederate flag? You know what that flag symbolizes I would imagine. Do you share those ideologies? Do you dislike black people? I'm jewish, do you hate me?

J

Could it be that Jeff is crazy about gen Lee and col Sanders? Or maybe Jeff enjoyed that guitar riff form Get Ready, you know the one that goes taran taran and Barney's guitar goes buhh and.

It's very possible, too, that Jeff is one those rockabilly dudes with long ass sideburns that play billiard with missing balls. Are you into REAL rock, man? You tell us Jeff.

Jeffari-al-Texani wrote:

No Holiday wrote:

Well, if memory serves me right, the flag was first put up during the Civil War between 1861-1865 representing the southern states that seceded from the rest of the U.S. in which black people were sold and treated as slaves. So to me, the Confederate Flag symbolizes racism, white power, and southern hicks.....What does the confederate flag symbolize to you? I know your name is Jeff. Is your last name Davis by any chance?

Jeffari's avatar is just the flag. I don't know if there is irony in that or what.....What would you think if I had a swastika as my avatar?

J

Are you aware that slavery existed under the Stars and Stripes?

Are you aware that there were states in the Union during the Civil War that practiced slavery?

By your definition, the Stars and Stripes symbolizes the same things you vilify my flag for.

What say you now?

And of course there were black folks fighting for the confederacy. And of course black kids still had to fight to get an education over 100 years after the war. And of course, (most)black people still cannot vote in Florida. And of course the US (now under the oh-so-free banner) when jews tried to escape Hitler, said????? "fuck off back there and burn, we've enough yids here aleady"[1]....nice, really classy that.

Yessss Suuuureeee, I shore ahm glad the north won that war and eliminated racism, hatred and inequality throughout the land.

[1]not to mention a few laws designed to keep Japanese and Chinese people out. Well unless they needed them to build a railway, before telling any of them that hadn't ended up in mass graves to fuck off back to China.

EDIT: I was just wondering after posting this, how long I would last with a swastika as my avatar, because before that vile monobollockular cunt got his hands on it (Hitler, not Bush)...it WAS actually an ancient Indian symbol, meaning peace or love or something. Always amuses the shit out of me, that in common with most braindead racists, the Nazi's relied on something made by people they believed were subhumans. It's a bit like seppos spouting hatred of muslims while happily using arabic numerals, or using a machine invented by an uphill gardener to spread poofophobia.

Oh god, here we go again.........

Doctor? wrote:

Jeffari-al-Texani wrote:

No Holiday wrote:

Well, if memory serves me right, the flag was first put up during the Civil War between 1861-1865 representing the southern states that seceded from the rest of the U.S. in which black people were sold and treated as slaves. So to me, the Confederate Flag symbolizes racism, white power, and southern hicks.....What does the confederate flag symbolize to you? I know your name is Jeff. Is your last name Davis by any chance?

Jeffari's avatar is just the flag. I don't know if there is irony in that or what.....What would you think if I had a swastika as my avatar?

J

Are you aware that slavery existed under the Stars and Stripes?

Are you aware that there were states in the Union during the Civil War that practiced slavery?

By your definition, the Stars and Stripes symbolizes the same things you vilify my flag for.

What say you now?

And of course there were black folks fighting for the confederacy. And of course black kids still had to fight to get an education over 100 years after the war. And of course, (most)black people still cannot vote in Florida. And of course the US (now under the oh-so-free banner) when jews tried to escape Hitler, said????? "fuck off back there and burn, we've enough yids here aleady"[1]....nice, really classy that.

Yessss Suuuureeee, I shore ahm glad the north won that war and eliminated racism, hatred and inequality throughout the land.

[1]not to mention a few laws designed to keep Japanese and Chinese people out. Well unless they needed them to build a railway, before telling any of them that hadn't ended up in mass graves to fuck off back to China.

EDIT: I was just wondering after posting this, how long I would last with a swastika as my avatar, because before that vile monobollockular cunt got his hands on it (Hitler, not Bush)...it WAS actually an ancient Indian symbol, meaning peace or love or something. Always amuses the shit out of me, that in common with most braindead racists, the Nazi's relied on something made by people they believed were subhumans. It's a bit like seppos spouting hatred of muslims while happily using arabic numerals, or using a machine invented by an uphill gardener to spread poofophobia.

"And of course black kids still had to fight to get an education over 100 years after the war."

• This statement is completely false.

"And of course the US (now under the oh-so-free banner) when jews tried to escape Hitler, said????? "fuck off back there and burn, we've enough yids here aleady"[1]....nice, really classy that."

• We can all thank FDR for that.

"Yessss Suuuureeee, I shore ahm glad the north won that war and eliminated racism, hatred and inequality throughout the land."

• You're arguing that racism, hatred and inequality should have just disappeared after a long a bloody civil war? I know you're not that ignorant.

"not to mention a few laws designed to keep Japanese and Chinese people out. Well unless they needed them to build a railway, before telling any of them that hadn't ended up in mass graves to fuck off back to China."

• Funny, there seem to many folks around the country (but especially on the west coast) of Japanese and Chinese origin whose families have been here for several generations.

"And of course, (most)black people still cannot vote in Florida."

• Name one from, oh, I don't know, the last 5 presidential election cycles.

"It's a bit like seppos spouting hatred of muslims while happily using arabic numerals..."

-As Agent Wood would ( :D ) be quick to point out, being Arab and being muslim are not mutually exclusive.

Tex, I think Doc is trying to show the irony in NH's arguement....

how do you people live in a world full of moral contradictions? Here i thought the US of A was of superior quality and valued everything good in the world. Excuse me, I'm gonna jump off the Brooklyn Bridge.

Jeffari-al-Texani wrote:

No Holiday wrote:

Well, if memory serves me right, the flag was first put up during the Civil War between 1861-1865 representing the southern states that seceded from the rest of the U.S. in which black people were sold and treated as slaves. So to me, the Confederate Flag symbolizes racism, white power, and southern hicks.....What does the confederate flag symbolize to you? I know your name is Jeff. Is your last name Davis by any chance?

Jeffari's avatar is just the flag. I don't know if there is irony in that or what.....What would you think if I had a swastika as my avatar?

J

Are you aware that slavery existed under the Stars and Stripes?

Are you aware that there were states in the Union during the Civil War that practiced slavery?

By your definition, the Stars and Stripes symbolizes the same things you vilify my flag for.

What say you now?

Yes, Yes, and Yes.....but your statements are misleading. The flag symbolizes the southern states that believed in slavery and inferiority, even after the emancipation proclamation. And yes some states in the union did practice slavery, not nearly as much as in the "confederate" states. But don't take my word for it.... here's what Borgna Bruner has to say about your avatar:

The Confederate battle flag, called the "Southern Cross" or the cross of St. Andrew, has been described variously as a proud emblem of Southern heritage and as a shameful reminder of slavery and segregation. In the past, several Southern states flew the Confederate battle flag along with the U.S. and state flags over their statehouses. Others incorporated the controversial symbol into the design of their state flags. The Confederate battle flag has also been appropriated by the Ku Klux Klan and other racist hate groups. According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, more than 500 extremist groups use the Southern Cross as one of their symbols.

So you are using an avatar that the Ku Klux Klan has used to represent their beliefs? In fact, read the above paragraph, 500 extremist hate groups use that flag as a symbol. Yes, there are racists in America everywhere, but that flag specifically stands for something. Slavery and white supremecy. By the way, how are you gonna censor a subtle joke I made to Uncle Liam yet let him tell me to fuck off and call me all those names? I only made implications in my post, he actually used foul hateful language against me.

J

NH, if you really are lokking to see what we think well its already been discussed here:

http://neworderonline.com/Forums/MessageList.aspx?ThreadID=43042

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