New Order live @ Primavera Festival, Barcelona (ES) 2005.05.27
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LeoRusty wrote: I thought "Viva!Espania" was a very dodgy thing to shout out in Catalonia!
Now that I think of it, it must be like "Viva Canada" while in Quebec, so it's a way to get into trouble ;)
Just got back 4 hours ago & shattered. Unfortunately I was also a victim of the light fingered twats on the Metro !! (Lesson learnt..... Wallet next to my 'Balls' & one hand touching all the time)!! Fantastic setting & was fantasically organised. Very easy to take a leak / get a drink / eat & see at all the stages, (apart from the Auditorium, but, a fantastic substitute for The Bunneymen was 'The Wedding Present' who were superb. 'NO' excellent & had a good bop about, I'd rather they mix the sets up a bit & look forward to Ceremony @ Hyde Park, can't wait. Apartment next to the nudist beach, couldn't get any better !
I'm no expert of Festivals, but, how does Primavera compare to other festivals cos I was told it was light years ahead of all the other 'Mud baths' ?
Spotnick wrote:
LeoRusty wrote: I thought "Viva!Espania" was a very dodgy thing to shout out in Catalonia!
Now that I think of it, it must be like "Viva Canada" while in Quebec, so it's a way to get into trouble ;)
Yeah, very neworderish, a bit like referring to Oakland as San Francisco 
One thing puzzles me about those gigs, it's been said before, but after seeing it myself, I think there's too much playback in the set. That's especially upsetting with Run Wild, you know Barney has that ***** melodica, you hear it during RW but only see him play guitar. If he can't do it, why can't Phil do it? Or why does he not at least mime it at those keyboards?
Ruined in a day wrote:
Spotnick wrote:
LeoRusty wrote: I thought "Viva!Espania" was a very dodgy thing to shout out in Catalonia!
Now that I think of it, it must be like "Viva Canada" while in Quebec, so it's a way to get into trouble ;)
Yeah, very neworderish, a bit like referring to Oakland as San Francisco
Here in Portugal he greeted the audience with a "long live Christopher Columbus". Everybody around me went "what's he on about?". Clearly they weren't familiar with the man and his Barney-isms!
Ruined in a day wrote: One thing puzzles me about those gigs, it's been said before, but after seeing it myself, I think there's too much playback in the set. That's especially upsetting with Run Wild, you know Barney has that ***** melodica, you hear it during RW but only see him play guitar. If he can't do it, why can't Phil do it? Or why does he not at least mime it at those keyboards?
Yep, at Oakland, Barney was even miming the melodica part a bit with his fingers during Run Wild, looking offstage as if he suddenly realized that he should be playing that part.
No it's not, there are some very vocal minority with fully lined pockets that would have you thinking otherwise but as you could see for yourself Barney's vivat did not ellicit any negatives or booing from the Spaniards.
Spotnick, I think the situation is not comparable to that of Quebec, in polls around 70% of the Catalonian population consistently defines itself as "Only Spanish" or "As Spanish as Catalonian". Then again maybe it is comparable because the quebecoises had also consistently chosen to remain within Canada.
Amazing gig, great to see everyone, probably best holiday I've ever had!
Got to the barrier and had to fight to keep my place, got tricep bruises to prove it. Alex gave me a bit of a buffeting from behind, still aching from that. Good to be spotted by Hooky who blew me a kiss. Barney missed the first line of Blue Monday and went on about various penises, but the dancing was fantastic, especially BLT with him crawling on his knees and pulling faces into the camera.
Note to Lighting Designer - need better footlights, can hardly see them, and get some lanterns that Hooky can't kick off stage.
Got some reasonable photos (bad light) - where shall I send them so all can see???
yeah, i have one or two that need to be posted as well.
great festival site, saw lots of bands that surprised me with quality of the set & the bars were open FOREVER!
good to meet up with all you guys again
Bakes wrote: I'm no expert of Festivals, but, how does Primavera compare to other festivals cos I was told it was light years ahead of all the other 'Mud baths' ?
Agreed, thought it was a brilliant festival site, though did seem rather 'dark' all the time so was dead easy to lose people.
Went to Lisbon the day after though and the Super Bock festival was even better than Barca's. Much easier to get served, and you didn't need tokens everywhere, just cash. Really excellent setting and not half as crowded.
Al Jarvis wrote:
Ness wrote: Alex gave me a bit of a buffeting from behind, still aching from that.
Yeah, really doesn't bear thinking about, does it????
hmm, alex was to my left for a large part of the gig & ness was to the front
must have been at the beginning he was doing it!
Spotnick wrote:
rusty junker squawker wrote: Mr Jarvis reckoned it was the best gig of the year so far and i quote "By a mile". Blighty contingent and the Spanish being Up for it compensating for same old same old with the setlist.
I'd be curious to know what makes it better than the US gigs...
The audience for starters! 
Al Jarvis wrote:
Spotnick wrote:
rusty junker squawker wrote: Mr Jarvis reckoned it was the best gig of the year so far and i quote "By a mile". Blighty contingent and the Spanish being Up for it compensating for same old same old with the setlist.
I'd be curious to know what makes it better than the US gigs...
The audience for starters!
If I may be so bold as to attempt to clear this one up for the Statesiders: on this side of the pond, "we" tend to like "gigs", which usually involve getting drunk, squashed, sweaty and bruised, and maybe even near-violated by notorious members of the 'ardcore (see Ness's post above); on the other side of the pond, fans seem to like lots of comfortable space in which to enjoy their "entertainment experience".
"We" don't understand you; you don't understand us; to-mar-toe / to-may-toe; let's go out and HAVE SOME FUN!!!
Al Jarvis wrote:
Spotnick wrote:
rusty junker squawker wrote: Mr Jarvis reckoned it was the best gig of the year so far and i quote "By a mile". Blighty contingent and the Spanish being Up for it compensating for same old same old with the setlist.
I'd be curious to know what makes it better than the US gigs...
The audience for starters!
That bad eh?
I couldn't say, I personally found it ok, I've seen a lot worst in Toronto....
But it's a fact that most concerts I've been in Montreal turned out they had better audiences...
Budvar Huber wrote:
Spotnick, I think the situation is not comparable to that of Quebec, in polls around 70% of the Catalonian population consistently defines itself as "Only Spanish" or "As Spanish as Catalonian". Then again maybe it is comparable because the quebecoises had also consistently chosen to remain within Canada.
Hum, in 1995 it was 49.5 yes and 50.5 no, but we learned recently that the federal government broke the law and spent much more money than they were allowed to, so basically, they bought the vote...
Oh well... right now because of this scandal, 55% are FOR it... but what do you want, the basic person from Quebec is scared of what would happen, and we get a lot of immigrants who are coming to Canada, not Quebec, so it's very possible that it will never happen...
Ness wrote: Amazing gig, great to see everyone, probably best holiday I've ever had!
Got to the barrier and had to fight to keep my place, got tricep bruises to prove it. Alex gave me a bit of a buffeting from behind, still aching from that. Good to be spotted by Hooky who blew me a kiss. Barney missed the first line of Blue Monday and went on about various penises, but the dancing was fantastic, especially BLT with him crawling on his knees and pulling faces into the camera.
Note to Lighting Designer - need better footlights, can hardly see them, and get some lanterns that Hooky can't kick off stage.
Got some reasonable photos (bad light) - where shall I send them so all can see???
Send them over here.. solved email issues today...
hibster wrote: hmm, alex was to my left for a large part of the gig & ness was to the front
must have been at the beginning he was doing it!
It was at the beginning when he was forcing his way through, he kept ramming people forward and I had a few painful barrier clashes - just to clarify.
Thought it was a great gig, everyone from Blackburn had a great night, big shout out to the Blackburn Bastards topped it off nicely.
Really smart gig. They were on top form. All you guys were great, met some more of you and had a top time.
Maybe next time we go we might some of the sights. Sun sea sand and beer. If hooky did that to my lights i would have to slap him. And yes they need to work on there front light situation. Did barney have a go about them in portugal?;)
Spotnick wrote:
Ness wrote: Amazing gig, great to see everyone, probably best holiday I've ever had!
Got to the barrier and had to fight to keep my place, got tricep bruises to prove it. Alex gave me a bit of a buffeting from behind, still aching from that. Good to be spotted by Hooky who blew me a kiss. Barney missed the first line of Blue Monday and went on about various penises, but the dancing was fantastic, especially BLT with him crawling on his knees and pulling faces into the camera.
Note to Lighting Designer - need better footlights, can hardly see them, and get some lanterns that Hooky can't kick off stage.
Got some reasonable photos (bad light) - where shall I send them so all can see???
Send them over here.. solved email issues today...
Have sent them to your hotmail address (can't open links for other addresses), will try to send video clips also, but proving more difficult!
Shit hot gig
crowd was a bit arsey as we bundled our way to the front so me and Shug had to adopt a "Brits abroad" attitude and just ram em out of the way while chanting Nu Ordah!Nu Ordah 
Great to see Budvar down the front with us going mental jumping about, band were on top form, Barney crawling around on his knees clasping his hands together while singing the "get down on my knees and pray" bit of BLT was just brilliant :D
Superb to meet up with the 'Order faithful as always, had an excellent laugh and special thanks to Grahame Ferguson for sorting out the apartment
Roll on Hyde Park.... :)
Thugs!!
Every Brit I met grinned and gave me the thumbs up when I started the "Noo Or-DAH!!!" chant; the locals asked me if I was a "ooo-lee-gan"....
Ness' pictures uploaded.
http://www.neworderonline.com/Live/Concert.aspx?ConcertID=680
For some reason, the one with JG & Al is corrupted, I'll update it later.
back in dear old pompey now to answer the question from Nik. Thousands of catalans and brits and germans and french danced and moved around in Barca. the band really respond to such feedback every opening bar was greated by moving and screaming. In the Us there was no passion apart from us europeans a few notable exceptions such as the mighty agent word and Al and Alison at the chigaco gig. thats what makes the european gigs so much better than the 8 north american gigs i have seen. The catalans have no problems with personal space or guarding a spot which they have stood in for four hours sober for.
Viva La revolution as Hookey said i will send him a copy of the great orwell book Homage to Cataluna
DoN? Are you the cockney red who was hanging out with the scottish bloke who was from corby?
