New Order and United Kingdom.
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Originally posted by Mark Smith We English may have invented football but the chairman at the mighty Aston Villa in the 1870s invented the football league because he wanted some competition for his team. His name, William McGregor and he wasn't English if you haven't guessed.New Order are an English band and you jocks can keep Travis thanks very much.
Mark, Free Range was an eff'in choooon, mate. But you've done fuck all since, let's face it. .
Not a patch on "Jawbone & The Air-Rifle" or "Terry Waite Sez" though eh Mr. Jarvis ? Yes-uh oh Yes-uh!
US 80's 90's, Birmingham School of Business School, Cruiser's Creek, Living Too Late, Big New Prinz.
Ah, the list is endless..
.. up until about 1993.
Beyond that they're (he's) awful.
Originally posted by Muffy I never use UK, only ever Scottish, and if I have to, British.
Well, to me, it's not even a case of being "British"....more like...'SHITTISH".
There, hope that's stirred up a bit of the brown stuff :evil:
(I was the Devil one post ago, remember?)
Originally posted by Allen Jarvis US 80's 90's, Birmingham School of Business School, Cruiser's Creek, Living Too Late, Big New Prinz. Ah, the list is endless.... up until about 1993.Beyond that they're (he's) awful.
To Nkroachment : Yarbles ! :)
Originally posted by Grahame Ferguson Dear Webmaster, NO are actually quite popular in a place called Scotland, a mighty nation of milk bottle white warriors with ginger hair. England aint the UK like Canada aint in America. Small point. Worth remembering.
Being a Quebec nationalist/sovereignist (some would say separatist), I understand Scotland's situation quite well I think and I like the fact that you are underscoring it's distinct cultural aspect. But last time I checked, Scotland was still part of the U.K. and Sean Connery had not yet been elected Prime Minister.
S.
Originally posted by Allen Jarvis [bNew Order are Engerlish, at worst 'British'. Does anyone here in Blighty ever use the term 'United Kingdom'? Seems prevalent with foreigners, but not with us. People here never use the term UK.
Well, maybe because many Americans tend to speak of "the U.K.", but as far as we're concerned, we still usually speak of "England", but when I am referring to the country, I'm trying not to insult people from Wales, Scotland or North Ireland, so therefore I say "United Kingdom" or "Great Britain", which is probably even better because it precisely refers to the four "provinces" (is that how you refer to England, Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland?).
is GREAT BRITAIN an official name for the country, anyhow? Or is it just a geographic location?
S.
P.S. Man, my Sean Connery joke was totally out of timing!!!
I'm a big Anglophile, so anything England related that catches my fancy, I tend to latch onto, thus explaining my love for the Order. I'd love to visit England one day, maybe even live there if I can take the horrible, horrible food
As far as separtists, if you look into my eyes, erm I mean, the history of my state, we were the first to secede from the US in 1860, and they never let you forget about a little thing like the Civil War around here. In the recent wave of jingo-isitic patriotism, I find it amusing to see some people with both an American and a Rebel flag bumper sticker on their cars. Talk about conflict of interest!
Well, whatever you call the place, it looks like they're all out enjoying their Friday evening and not here.
Whoo hoo...for once, I will get to use some of that Geography minor I attained while at Texas A&M...
Sebsy...the official name of the country is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland...
Now let's get this striaghtened out just a little bit more. Great Britain includes England, Scotland and Wales, but not Northern Ireland. Are you confused yet? Good. So you can call someone from Scotland British, but you can't call them English. Have I completely lost all of you yet? Hell, I think I've lost myself...
Well, that's enough learning for tonight, I'm going to go do some CD burnings, and then I'm going down to the corner bar to get seriously drunken, then attempt to have sexual encounters with some Plastic boobed bimbo (North Dallas seems to have a corner on the market!!!)
What is wrong with the Brits
We're all lazy bastards basically, we'd rather wait for someone else to complete our difficult tasks..such as building websites..then we can join in when it's done and make a nuisance of ourselves, as I'm sure you're well aware
Originally posted by Niel Johnstone its because we are all waiting 4 buses.public transport is shit
For fuck sake Niel!! don't mention public transport, you'll wake Martin up
Originally posted by Taboo # 7 I'm a big Anglophile, so anything England related that catches my fancy, I tend to latch onto, thus explaining my love for the Order. I'd love to visit England one day, maybe even live there if I can take the horrible, horrible foodAs far as separtists, if you look into my eyes, erm I mean, the history of my state, we were the first to secede from the US in 1860, and they never let you forget about a little thing like the Civil War around here. In the recent wave of jingo-isitic patriotism, I find it amusing to see some people with both an American and a Rebel flag bumper sticker on their cars. Talk about conflict of interest!
Are you referring to the Confederate Flag, the one with the cross?
I'm still amazed to see how many people are still attached to that flag -- you know, I studied the U.S.'s political movements quite a lot when I did my degree in Political Science and my conclusions were that, at many levels, the Civil War was still ongoing. There is still a clear cut between the North and the South.
As a matter of fact, a lawyer from a South Carolina firm I worked for last summer (Womble Carlyle Sandridge & Rice -- you might have heard of them) was telling me how true that still was for a state like Alabama, for instance.
I find it a bit weird that after all this time, there are still people who would want the South to be more independant from the North.
Ditto for Texas, the "Lone Star State" -- a lone star because it seceded from the United States at one point and was annexed by force. I've heard there are still people who think Texas should be an independant country, like those who think the same for California.
Very interesting, even if these movements are usually a bit extreme and only the will of a small minority.
S.
Originally posted by Sébastien Boisvert > Originally posted by Taboo # 7> I'm a big Anglophile, so anything England related that catches my fancy, I tend to latch onto, thus explaining my love for the Order. I'd love to visit England one day, maybe even live there if I can take the horrible, horrible food> > As far as separtists, if you look into my eyes, erm I mean, the history of my state, we were the first to secede from the US in 1860, and they never let you forget about a little thing like the Civil War around here. In the recent wave of jingo-isitic patriotism, I find it amusing to see some people with both an American and a Rebel flag bumper sticker on their cars. Talk about conflict of interest!
Are you referring to the Confederate Flag, the one with the cross?
I'm still amazed to see how many people are still attached to that flag -- you know, I studied the U.S.'s political movements quite a lot when I did my degree in Political Science and my conclusions were that, at many levels, the Civil War was still ongoing. There is still a clear cut between the North and the South.
As a matter of fact, a lawyer from a South Carolina firm I worked for last summer (Womble Carlyle Sandridge & Rice -- you might have heard of them) was telling me how true that still was for a state like Alabama, for instance.
I find it a bit weird that after all this time, there are still people who would want the South to be more independant from the North.
Ditto for Texas, the "Lone Star State" -- a lone star because it seceded from the United States at one point and was annexed by force. I've heard there are still people who think Texas should be an independant country, like those who think the same for California.
Very interesting, even if these movements are usually a bit extreme and only the will of a small minority.
S.
Sebsy...
that lone star comes from the fact that we were once a republic all by ourselves. of course the best that we could do for a flag was a cheap knock off of the American flag. Texas was not annexed by force, but instead, desperately wanted to become part of the United States at the time of seperation from Mexico. But Andrew Jackson and Martin van Buren were not too keen on fighting a war with Mexico.
And, did any of you know (or even care) that Texas has the right to split itself into 5 seperate states if it so desires?
Yeah, Texas was an independant republic for 10 years before being incorperated into the US. Not to get too historical, but Americans who settled into Texas were unable to get along with the Mexican authorities who controlled the area and rebelled. They offered themselves to the US but had to wait a while before a president would come along who felt like dealing with the Mexicans who still claimed it. As for SC, there's not a lot of succession talk, but the Stars and Bars is still flying near the State Capitol Building as a sign of "defiance". A lot of people seem to think it was put up to honor our Confederate dead, but the timing of it (1962-63, when the civil rights movement was in full swing) makes me suspicious.
Oops, I meant "sEcession", not "sUccession" (not even sure if I spelled it right in either case)
History lessons? Hum..
Did you know that the Canadians are actually the only nation who WON a war against the US? :D
We weren't independant at the moment, still part of the UK, but it's still funny when you think about it.
(And for my own protection, I have no idea if anyone won another war against the US, I don't count Vietnam in!!)
Canada is a pretty weird country when you think about it, when you think that it's a country built by France and Conquered by England, so we had to work very hard in the last 300 years to not be assimilated by the whole english-speaking continent, and it worked I guess, we're 6 millions of "French Speaking people" in North America.. we can't say much for people who moved into New England and Louisiana.. so it's almost our little miracle...
Anyways, I'll stop with boring history stuff :D
Originally posted by Sébastien Boisvert Huh, never heard of this before!Explain!S.
I assume you are speaking of the right to divide itself.
When Texas first joined up with the US, it was written in that if the state ever fancied doing so, they could split themselves into five seperate states. Just a little historical tidbit for you.
Originally posted by Shug > Originally posted by Niel Johnstone> its because we are all waiting 4 buses.> > > > public transport is shit
For fuck sake Niel!! don't mention public transport, you'll wake Martin up
Who's that I hear talking about me ???!!! 
