Chris Waddle is a classic example of what I was referring to about players receiving praise for running into blind alleys.I don't think he learned to play until he was about 29 and went to Marseille.
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Originally posted by Hank Wiseass© Allen,two of the four he was voted player of the year. And while I agree there is a lot of competition to be number one at Liverpool his playing days didn't overlap with Kenny's so yeah he was the best since Kenny.I don't think I know any Liverpool fans who would disagree.As for England did you watch him or just boo when the odd thing didn't come off.I maintain he was the best player on the park in most games he played.He never squandered possession always had the best control, admirable qualities Oh and did he not turn the Argentina game on it's head in 86.Also at Liverpool his goal scoring record was phenomanal in the first four years. Over 100 in all.
Hank, sorry mate, but he's the worst man ever to have advertised Lucozade Sport. How did the line go? "After 90mins hard graft"?! How many games did he take to notch that 90?!
I bow to your superior knowledge of all things Scouse, but as an independent he never did it for me.
But then the boy did play for W**ford, so that does perhaps make me rather biased.
Always felt sorry for the boy Waddle, mind. So close to being a hero when he hit the post in Italia 90. And ten mins later? Well, just shows you how fickle fans can be.
Originally posted by Hank Wiseass© Chris Waddle is a classic example of what I was referring to about players receiving praise for running into blind alleys.I don't think he learned to play until he was about 29 and went to Marseille.
Chris used to rip defences apart in his Tottenham days. blind Alleys? Don't be silly now.Had a great spell in Marseille, returned to England and had an even better spell at Sheffield Wednesday. At least he had the ambition to go towards goal in an England shirt rather than taking the John Barnes easy route of back and across.
Talking of blind alleys, Didn't you say a certain Mr Heskey should be playing for the national team?
Originally posted by Seb Briggs > Originally posted by Hank Wiseass©> Chris Waddle is a classic example of what I was referring to about players receiving praise for running into blind alleys.I don't think he learned to play until he was about 29 and went to Marseille.
Chris used to rip defences apart in his Tottenham days. blind Alleys? Don't be silly now.Had a great spell in Marseille, returned to England and had an even better spell at Sheffield Wednesday. At least he had the ambition to go towards goal in an England shirt rather than taking the John Barnes easy route of back and across.
Talking of blind alleys, Didn't you say a certain Mr Heskey should be playing for the national team?
Hmmmmn,Chris waddle I recall a gangly guy running past the bye line, half way across the running track and then looking up just prior to finding him self draped in a millwall flag.Are we talking about the same player? Mr Barnes policy of not profligacy with the ball may be in stark contrast,but puts him higher up in my estimation.
Of course you're aware Heskey is in the National team? rightly ahead of Phillips,Cole,Fowler and Smith. Surely you don't watch his tireless , unmatchable ability to hold and shield the ball and come out with comments like"If he's so big, how come he's always on the ground?" and instead enjoy his domination of defenders on many levels i.e pace,power,skill and ariel dominance(though I'd prefer we played it on the ground more)
Originally posted by Hank Wiseass© > Originally posted by Seb Briggs> > > > Originally posted by Hank Wiseass©>
instead enjoy his domination of defenders on many levels i.e pace,power,skill and ariel dominance
you are taking the piss...right?
add to that dominance of the goalscoring charts and its your best joke yet, Hank.
Originally posted by Hank Wiseass© Of course you're aware Heskey is in the National team? rightly ahead of Phillips,Cole,Fowler and Smith. Surely you don't watch his tireless , unmatchable ability to hold and shield the ball and come out with comments like"If he's so big, how come he's always on the ground?"and instead enjoy his domination of defenders on many levels i.e pace,power,skill and ariel dominance(though I'd prefer we played it on the ground more)
I quite like Bruno, though you have to admit: he DOES end up on the ground rather a lot for a big fella. He's still not the polished article really, is he? His career doesn't seem to have progressed in the past few years. If we're gonna use a link-up man then I think it should be Sheringham ahead of Heskey, but Heskey would be my no.2 choice. However, why SGE sometimes puts him on the left wing is beyond me.
Originally posted by Hank Wiseass© > Originally posted by Seb Briggs> > > > Originally posted by Hank Wiseass©> > Chris > > > > Of course you're aware Heskey is in the National team? >
Of course. I'm that voice you can probably hear right up in Liverpool calling for the useless lump of shit to be substituted.
I suppose Sven can't be right all the time.
Originally posted by Allen Jarvis
I quite like Bruno, though you have to admit: he DOES end up on the ground rather a lot for a big fella. He's still not the polished article really, is he? His career doesn't seem to have progressed in the past few years. If we're gonna use a link-up man then I think it should be Sheringham ahead of Heskey, but Heskey would be my no.2 choice. However, why SGE sometimes puts him on the left wing is beyond me.
0 goals in 19 games is unacceptable for any striker Allen..that is why he is shoved to the left wing as an excuse for his pitiful goal tally. I honestly think he is nothing more than a slightly superior Ade Akinbiyi.
Saw JK had another bid for Greenacre rejected. he's not giving up is he?
You're aware how many games Shearer managed for England without a goal Sebb? while I agree Heskey hasn't been on fire in front of goal his alround contribution is excellent,he has many similar qualities to Mark Hughes,and I do believe he is improving his game all the time. I also think he was our player of the year last year,while Owen and Fowler had injuries he was the sole outlet of are attacking play for about three months,without him we wouldn't have been left in any of the competitions we won and our league position would have been about 10 points worse off.
Originally posted by Hank Wiseass© You're aware how many games Shearer managed for England without a goal Sebb?
12 off the top of my head prior to Euro 96. the difference is that Shearer had done it before for England and had been scoring reguarly in the Premiership through his goal drought.
The difference as I see it is Shearer was largely in the team for his goals,Heskey as a foil for St Michael and as they manage this at club level replicating it at national level isn't that illogical.Are you saying Heskey doesn't have the qualities I outlined?
Originally posted by Seb Briggs > Originally posted by Hank Wiseass©> > > > Originally posted by Seb Briggs> > > > > > > Originally posted by Hank Wiseass©> > >
instead enjoy his domination of defenders on many levels i.e pace,power,skill and ariel dominance
you are taking the piss...right?
add to that dominance of the goalscoring charts and its your best joke yet, Hank.
I think he managed 22 for us last year,so yeah domination of our scoring chart is added to the list of Heskey's never ending talents.
Originally posted by Hank Wiseass© The difference as I see it is Shearer was largely in the team for his goals,Heskey as a foil for St Michael and as they manage this at club level replicating it at national level isn't that illogical.Are you saying Heskey doesn't have the qualities I outlined?
yup. he's a useless lump of shit.
Just coz Micky O is a little cracker doesn't mean Heskey has anything to do with his success - He rarely gets an assist for one of Owens goals. A proper foil is like what Beardsley was for Cole at Newcastle, where Beardo had a big hand in a lot of the goals Cole (or Lineker with England) scored.
Originally posted by Seb Briggs > Originally posted by Hank Wiseass©> The difference as I see it is Shearer was largely in the team for his goals,Heskey as a foil for St Michael and as they manage this at club level replicating it at national level isn't that illogical.Are you saying Heskey doesn't have the qualities I outlined?
yup. he's a useless lump of shit.
Just coz Micky O is a little cracker doesn't mean Heskey has anything to do with his success - He rarely gets an assist for one of Owens goals. A proper foil is like what Beardsley was for Cole at Newcastle, where Beardo had a big hand in a lot of the goals Cole (or Lineker with England) scored.
Perhaps we were too boring for you to take an interest in the finer points of his contribution and all those centre-halves who say they fear facing him just lie so that Houllier and Ericson keep on picking him.
Atlanta 1 - Montréal 5...
Yes, the Habs are on a big winning streak, they seem unstoppable.. again, a respectful team from the most winning team in hockey history.... the Montréal Canadiens.
Oups, sorry, wrong sport :p
I think those centre halves are taking the piss as well. And in fact coz you are so boring I tend to take more interest in the performances of individuals.
And Heskeys still crap.
Originally posted by Yecnuaj Mit Have to agree, Larsson looks a great player at the moment, but the standard of defending he is "faced" with...... Konterman etc..... it's hardly surprising that he looks a great player against that sort of opposition ! When he arrived in Scotland from Feyenoord, he was viewed as being too lightweight and unlikely to relish the physical side of the Scottish game, mind you Feyenoord are no slouches on that front ! He soon proved everybody wrong, but he's not playing anyone !!
As a Feyenoord supporter I can provide some background here. Larsson was always considered a big talent, but it never really came out. He never scored more than 10 goals a season, so it is a bit surprising that he turned into this goal scoring machine at Celtic. Strange thing is that Konterman was a very good defender when he played at Feyenoord and there was never any doubt he would succeed in Scotland. And what about Bobby Peta, he played for Feyenoord but only as a substitute player. And look at him now...
Originally posted by Niel Johnstone Its not arrogance but fact the the Glasgow b(h)oys would struggle in the 1st (never mind the premiership) you only have to look at their records in Europe to know this.
Niel, with all greatest respect....FUCK OFF what have the english achieved in the champions cup other than Man U? fair enough Leeds done well last year..but they never fuckin won it did they? I agree the scottish league isn't the best, but think of the money that gets pumped into the english game - Celtic & Rangers got 3 million for TV Revenue last year - Southampton got 18 million - is it any wonder why we can't compete?
Originally posted by Allen Jarvis Anyone remember Laudrup's aborted adventure(?) at Chelsea. Dear, oh dear. What was he on? 75k p/w or something? Farcical. Agreed, a brilliant footballer, but only in bursts, much like Larsson to be honest. He's either brilliant or he's anonymous, isn't he? Same of Gazza. And certainly Barnes. Of all the players thus far listed, only perhaps Maradona has ever shown any consistency to his game, or indeed mettle. A true world beater, in a league of his own in the modern era. If I had to choose one brilliant player in the current game though, I'd have to go with Roy Keane. So what if he can't bury 40 yard free-kicks or dribble past 5 men, he's still the one reason ManU have dominated the current premiership (their only recent hiccup was in the year he did his cruciate). First name on the team sheet for me every time. And I'm not a Man U supporter. Much as I like fancy dans, deft flicks and back-heels you can't beat a good old-fashioned lung-busting, ball-breaking, badge-kissing hardman leading your boys out. Quality. Every team should have one. Keep football a contact sport!
Totally agree Allen, Laudrup was not good enough so he fucked off...Basically
As for Roy Keane...fucking love him mate, and yes he'd be first on my team sheet as well...Were you at the 4-3 game at Old Trafford when the Celtic supporters were singing Keano for Celtic? 
Originally posted by Allen Jarvis > Originally posted by Hank Wiseass©> Allen,two of the four he was voted player of the year. And while I agree there is a lot of competition to be number one at Liverpool his playing days didn't overlap with Kenny's so yeah he was the best since Kenny.I don't think I know any Liverpool fans who would disagree.As for England did you watch him or just boo when the odd thing didn't come off.I maintain he was the best player on the park in most games he played.He never squandered possession always had the best control, admirable qualities Oh and did he not turn the Argentina game on it's head in 86.Also at Liverpool his goal scoring record was phenomanal in the first four years. Over 100 in all.
Hank, sorry mate, but he's the worst man ever to have advertised Lucozade Sport. How did the line go? "After 90mins hard graft"?! How many games did he take to notch that 90?!
I bow to your superior knowledge of all things Scouse, but as an independent he never did it for me.
But then the boy did play for W**ford, so that does perhaps make me rather biased.
Always felt sorry for the boy Waddle, mind. So close to being a hero when he hit the post in Italia 90. And ten mins later? Well, just shows you how fickle fans can be.
Originally posted by Seb Briggs Henriks scored a few for Sweden as well though. i'm sure he'd do a decent job in the Premiership - maybe Liverpools new signing after foolishly selling Leeds the League title last night.The Scots league is really poor at the moment - for example when they were trying to flog Burchill last year, nobody in the Premiership were even bothered despite him being an international. Bar the Glasgow teams, all the teams in the SPL would struggle in the English 1st division.
Totally agree Sebsy mate
Originally posted by Coen van der Voort > Originally posted by Yecnuaj Mit> Have to agree, Larsson looks a great player at the moment, but the standard of defending he is "faced" with...... Konterman etc..... it's hardly surprising that he looks a great player against that sort of opposition ! When he arrived in Scotland from Feyenoord, he was viewed as being too lightweight and unlikely to relish the physical side of the Scottish game, mind you Feyenoord are no slouches on that front ! He soon proved everybody wrong, but he's not playing anyone !!> > As a Feyenoord supporter I can provide some background here. Larsson was always considered a big talent, but it never really came out. He never scored more than 10 goals a season, so it is a bit surprising that he turned into this goal scoring machine at Celtic.> Strange thing is that Konterman was a very good defender when he played at Feyenoord and there was never any doubt he would succeed in Scotland. And what about Bobby Peta, he played for Feyenoord but only as a substitute player. And look at him now...
Coen, I was over in Amsterdam for the Ajax game - and everyone we met held Larsson in the highest regard - as for some of the players currently at Celtic look where they were before Martin O 'Neil took over ...Didier Agathe was average now he's a great asset to Celtic...Stilian Petrov showed glimpses of class but under MON he's fucking brilliant. Petta was an average player for Ipswich...look at him now took the total piss out of Ajax...What can you say. It's all down to the 2nd Messiah Martin O Neil
Originally posted by Shug As for Roy Keane...fucking love him mate, and yes he'd be first on my team sheet as well...Were you at the 4-3 game at Old Trafford when the Celtic supporters were singing Keano for Celtic?
No, Shug, I was seeing the Order in Frisco that day! Besides, I'm a Luton supporter. Hence the quasi-dislike of one John Barnes. WTF would I be doing at Old Trafford??!!
We've lost 4 on the bounce, a bit gutting as I had 50 notes on us being Xmas No.1 in Division 3. We're still 2 points of second place, mind, so it's not all Doom & Gloom. To be honest, I'd expect us to go straight back up automatically. Hopefully we're just suffering a blip at the moment.
Plymouth are walking it a bit at the mo aren't they? Rochdale will sink down like they do every year. Good to see the Mighty Stags still up there though.
We get Plymouth fans polluting our website, much more than the W**ford ever used to. They'll sink too, mind. Hull are the ones to watch out for, I reckon; there's been a lot of money invested in that side.
A lot of money considering they couldn't afford to unlock their ground last year. I can't see Mansfield lasting the pace in the top 3 to be honest - too many young kids playing, but I think we've got every chance via the play-offs. Obviously dependant on whether CG stays til then that is.
