WFTSC cover artwork revealed?

It looks blatently like a promo sleeve, very PSB indeed.

But must an album cover have a picture on to be good? I dont think so.

Lets remember Grrrrready, a flat red line. No big deal.

The recent PET SHOP BOYS covers have been SUPERB.As for this i think it is a PROMO.Reminds me of GET THE MESSAGE single covers aswell.I would like a nice picture on the front cover of my CD.Might have to make my own!

Im betting that the original sleeve featured some kind of sea/beach/wave type scene and the events in Asia on Boxing day called for a hasty rethink.

The title track is about the sea and stuff, Barney wrote some of it on his yacht and is well known for likeing sailing, so I reckon a nautical theme was on the cards until those tragic events occurred.

I think it's awful, very counterproductive in the marketing sense too, it'll be yelling "NO ! Don't pick me !" to everyone who passes by. The airplane version would have been a better idea, if yachts are out of the question (am I the only one here slightly annoyed by the yachting thing ?).

Originally posted by Julijana Zitnjak I think it's awful, very counterproductive in the marketing sense too, it'll be yelling "NO ! Don't pick me !" to everyone who passes by.The airplane version would have been a better idea, if yachts are out of the question (am I the only one here slightly annoyed by the yachting thing ?).

Why annoyed?Have i missed something.BTW have you fixed that FILTER problem? Regards Rocket Mick

Just looks like a bolshy answer: "get ready" "No"

• same conversation I have with my kids every morning

If this is the cover people will start using 'No' as the album name (like So or Go) Works well with the NewOrder attitude to everything

Originally posted by Rocket Mick > Originally posted by Julijana Zitnjak> I think it's awful, very counterproductive in the marketing sense too, it'll be yelling "NO ! Don't pick me !" to everyone who passes by.> The airplane version would have been a better idea, if yachts are out of the question (am I the only one here slightly annoyed by the yachting thing ?).

Why annoyed?Have i missed something.BTW have you fixed that FILTER problem? Regards Rocket Mick Thankfully the filter's fine today ! Or actually not fine, not working at all (perhaps it's on a yacht ?). It just doesn't look right to me, Barney among all those stinking rich people and their yachts, parked in marinas, last year on Hvar a bloke had a yacht so big that it had a helipad and an actual helicopter on it. Sipping 100 kuna (10 pounds) coctails. Wearing designer labels I havent heard of. I have an uneasy feeling about people with yachts. No offense to anyone who owns a yacht.

Originally posted by Spotnick Confirmation... the sleeve is real, by Warner.

How BAD!

Originally posted by Julijana Zitnjak > Originally posted by Rocket Mick> > > > Originally posted by Julijana Zitnjak> > I think it's awful, very counterproductive in the marketing sense too, it'll be yelling "NO ! Don't pick me !" to everyone who passes by.> > The airplane version would have been a better idea, if yachts are out of the question (am I the only one here slightly annoyed by the yachting thing ?).>

Why annoyed?Have i missed something.BTW have you fixed that FILTER problem? Regards Rocket Mick Thankfully the filter's fine today ! Or actually not fine, not working at all (perhaps it's on a yacht ?). It just doesn't look right to me, Barney among all those stinking rich people and their yachts, parked in marinas, last year on Hvar a bloke had a yacht so big that it had a helipad and an actual helicopter on it. Sipping 100 kuna (10 pounds) coctails. Wearing designer labels I havent heard of. I have an uneasy feeling about people with yachts. No offense to anyone who owns a yacht. Oh i see what you mean now.I have a problem with SAILORS too!

Well it looks ok to me, but i will have to wait till i actually have it in my hands, is the spelled out new order and the album title a sticker like get ready?

Originally posted by Spotnick Confirmation... the sleeve is real, by Warner.

I'm glad, I think the general public response/interest will be posative. I still say New Order's harshest critics are on this very site.

Back to '88 for Sav. (or whomever put finger to mouse).

Top drawer sirs - echoes of Low-Life. When you've done it all, you have to fill in the gaps that were missed. It was only a matter of timepieces that 'No' or 'NO' was itself the artwork.

Genius, as always.

As Al points out, if the inner sleeve isn't an accent of the front i.e. the fulfilment of orange, then several people will be consuming their hats in surprise - AJ starting first.

Originally posted by Spotnick Confirmation... the sleeve is real, by Warner.

Good and bad.

I don't mind the design itself, I'm a fan of minimalist design and typography. I wonder if I'm reading too much into it by suggesting that New Order is written NEW order to emphasise the fact that there is a NEW order - a new line-up within the band.

The thing that bothers me is how the design theme has been interrupted. The font, content and style of the Krafty single are unrelated to the album cover. This breaks all Saville's New Order traditions and being a stickler for detail, this bothers me. Which motif will the next single follow? The album or Krafty?

If the original design for the album was, as Al mentioned, a coastal setting or airplane in the same blurry monochrome style as Krafty, why did it change? If it's because of the recent tsunami (as rumoured), then this is political correctness gone mad for mine.

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Originally posted by Spotnick Confirmation... the sleeve is real, by Warner.

Good and bad.

I don't mind the design itself, I'm a fan of minimalist design and typography. I wonder if I'm reading too much into it by suggesting that New Order is written NEW order to emphasise the fact that there is a NEW order - a new line-up within the band.

The thing that bothers me is how the design theme has been interrupted. The font, content and style of the Krafty single are unrelated to the album cover. This breaks all Saville's New Order traditions and being a stickler for detail, this bothers me. Which motif will the next single follow? The album or Krafty?

If the original design for the album was, as Al mentioned, a coastal setting or airplane in the same blurry monochrome style as Krafty, why did it change? If it's because of the recent tsunami (as rumoured), then this is political correctness gone mad for mine.

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Slow down there chief, we heard you the first time.

There will be correlation, its just that we can't see it yet.

When toast was first invented, did anybody query why jam was being applied? ... think about it.

We haven’t seen the likes of this since the heady days of Shellshape and State of the Nutcracker back in the 80’s. I for one am extremely excited, blurry ferry or not.

I used to love New Order's artwork, but Get Ready was simply crap and this is even worse. Anyone with more than 5 minutes' worth of experience on a Fisher Price art package could have 'designed' that. Where's the creativity, the mystique, the skill? In all seriousness, that cover must have taken no more than 30 seconds to do, including printing. Saville should be totally ashamed of himself, and no amount of attaching meaning to stark minimilism will change my view. Let's hope the music makes up for it.

Now now, calm down dear, design isn't so much about skill as it is about fulfilling a purpose, and it isn't so much about the process (how well qualified you have to be) - it's the ultimate product that's all important. If you want to do it on your criteria - making a piece of art which will keep the fans happy - then you're never going to win, because everyone has wildly different tastes in art. However, as far as eye-catching goes, or different, or whatever, this is a winner. Everyone's so obsessed with making a piece of art on their covers it's sick, and we've come to expect it haven't we? About 30 years ago I think we would have been pretty content with just a picture of the band on the front..

I mean, yes, it's a little annoying that Saville has probably walked away with a massive cheque for doing next to bugger all, but there's a bit of value's worth out of it - if anybody else apart from Saville had proposed it, would you think they would have been taken seriously?

I must confess that I've loved the covers as of late (I like the clean, no nonsense style), so maybe it sways my opinion, but a fact remains - it's eyecatching, it's distinctive, and it's different. Perfect.

i've pieced together several points by other keen observers to make sense of the cover. if you accept the look of the No as a nod to the periodic table of elements, you begin to realize it's classic Saville magic. newOrder are OLD and an essential ELEMENT to modern music. the artist/album title in the top left corner may very well be printed on the jewel case or a clear sticker. this is key to my appreciation of the sleeve so i'm hoping they don't print that on the front.

my newOrder sleeve preferences:

Technique era Shellshock Low-Life (full tracing paper) Movement Temptation 7" Temptation 12"

least favorite theme: REPUBLIC + Singles

Originally posted by Biznotic Love Trapezoid i've pieced together several points by other keen observers to make sense of the cover. if you accept the look of the No as a nod to the periodic table of elements, you begin to realize it's classic Saville magic. newOrder are OLD and an essential ELEMENT to modern music. the artist/album title in the top left corner may very well be printed on the jewel case or a clear sticker. this is key to my appreciation of the sleeve so i'm hoping they don't print that on the front. my newOrder sleeve preferences:Technique eraShellshockLow-Life (full tracing paper)MovementTemptation 7"Temptation 12"least favorite theme: REPUBLIC + Singles

I guess I can see the reference to the periodic table - but I'd never have seen it had it not been pointed out. How many people will 'get it', and of those who do, who would really think it clever?

well imho most new order covers have been somewhat understated, artistic, and very clean in design. This however, is far to clean. I hope this is a promo, but I am not entirely comforted by the last two covers for republic and get ready, which in my opinion are the worst of the lot.

We can all agree that it's the music that counts not the artwork but since Saville has been a staple behind New Order's music, isn't this a bit absurd to use No on the cover.

I love minimal art and the clarity of a simple abstract artwork like Piet Mondrian, it brings a certain freshness and order to it but how can anyone take this cover seriously.

The color orange is good and it defies the composition by placing it in the middle with text on upper left, but wrong choice in the elemental design of a stupid No letters.

I want to like it, I liked the early NO covers with similar style but this is off the mark. Well, on to the music....

why does the suppossed amount of money paid to Saville and estimated time of work have to do with anything?

unless somebody has inside info to the contrary, you should assume that Saville takes his over 26 year long association with the band seriously, at least from a design perspective. i don't know how he gets along personally with the guys, but the idea that he is just ripping off the band for cash is kind of a lame way to look at it IMO.

i bet by the end of the year some of you will be wearing white T-shirts with nothing but a big orange "No" on the front, confounding those around you.

For those curious about Saville's inspiration: http://www.cameco.com/common/images/u101/periodic.gif