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Do you hear bells from 0:15 to 0:45 on Who's Joe?

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  • Yes, I hear bells on Who's Joe from 0:15 to 0:45. 19 (50%)
  • No, I don't hear bells on Who's Joe from 0:15 to 0:45. 19 (50%)

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Yes, DC, a giant squid, or perhaps the creature heard breathing at the end of track 1.

Whoever Big is, his presence is most welcome. He's also pretty good on lyrics.

You mentioned, H, that you'd been discussing the Odyssey parallel with an expert. Anything more to relate on that?

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depthcharge wrote:

Can someone satisfy my curiosity over who BIGINOIL was in a previous life - or avatar? He seems to have chalked up a few data entries but I can't place the tone or location.

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I was previously known as ct001, and my picture appeared as vertical blue lines (actually marine cables in rare North Sea sunlight).

I was re-christened by Rocket Mick a while ago, and changed my avatar to the spurting one at that time.

I am normally drunk on here, posting on the silly side during the evening. The normal site address is blocked by the internet filter in my office, but this temporary URL is allowed through. This explains my sudden appearance during the day, and also why I will dissapear into the night once the hosting is sorted and this URL is removed. Of course, I could be sacked from my job for arsing around in chatrooms when I should be working. I will then sit at home and post all day.

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What was Rocket Mick's epiphany that had you christened as an oily one?

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Patrick wrote: Yes, DC, a giant squid, or perhaps the creature heard breathing at the end of track 1.

Whoever Big is, his presence is most welcome. He's also pretty good on lyrics.

You mentioned, H, that you'd been discussing the Odyssey parallel with an expert. Anything more to relate on that?

The expert discussion prompted the recent thread on 'the concept', where I was hopeful to take a crystalized version back to the lab for further analysis.

From memory, there is a beggar in the story which could relate to Joseph, 'gold' tipped arrows were in use, a divine 'jet steam' of wind powered souls back to base, the protagonists dropped into some form of Hades-type castle ... as we listened to each track, a Greek equivalent was cited.

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depthcharge wrote: What was Rocket Mick's epiphany that had you christened as an oily one?

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Well under 'occupation' in my profile I had put "Big in Oil". This was more for my own amusement as anyone's; my work is connected to the oil industry. I often joke that I am a 'big man in oil', like JR or Burt Lancaster in Local Hero. I asked Rocket if he could come up with a new name for me and he did.

For a while I was Peter North, because Digital Mike saw my new avatar and thought that suck a glorious spurt could come from only one man. I found the life of a porn star very tiring though, and changed it back.

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Huntsman wrote:

Patrick wrote: Yes, DC, a giant squid, or perhaps the creature heard breathing at the end of track 1.

Whoever Big is, his presence is most welcome. He's also pretty good on lyrics.

You mentioned, H, that you'd been discussing the Odyssey parallel with an expert. Anything more to relate on that?

The expert discussion prompted the recent thread on 'the concept', where I was hopeful to take a crystalized version back to the lab for further analysis.

From memory, there is a beggar in the story which could relate to Joseph, 'gold' tipped arrows were in use, a divine 'jet steam' of wind powered souls back to base, the protagonists dropped into some form of Hades-type castle ... as we listened to each track, a Greek equivalent was cited.

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That all sounds extremely promising, H. I hope the next time you and the expert listen to the album together, there is a pen and paper handy to take notes on the parallels.

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depthcharge wrote: What was Rocket Mick's epiphany that had you christened as an oily one?

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Well under 'occupation' in my profile I had put "Big in Oil". This was more for my own amusement as anyone's; my work is connected to the oil industry. I often joke that I am a 'big man in oil', like JR or Burt Lancaster in Local Hero. I asked Rocket if he could come up with a new name for me and he did.

For a while I was Peter North, because Digital Mike saw my new avatar and thought that suck a glorious spurt could come from only one man. I found the life of a porn star very tiring though, and changed it back.

For ease of reference, gentle sir, do you mind if we call you "Big"?

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depthcharge wrote: What was Rocket Mick's epiphany that had you christened as an oily one?

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Well under 'occupation' in my profile I had put "Big in Oil". This was more for my own amusement as anyone's; my work is connected to the oil industry. I often joke that I am a 'big man in oil', like JR or Burt Lancaster in Local Hero. I asked Rocket if he could come up with a new name for me and he did.

For a while I was Peter North, because Digital Mike saw my new avatar and thought that suck a glorious spurt could come from only one man. I found the life of a porn star very tiring though, and changed it back.

This is may seem inappropriate, but I have a sneaking suspicion that the human oil pumper has one or two conveniently sensational stories to relate about ghost sightings.

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BIGINOIL wrote: I often joke that I am a 'big man in oil', like JR or Burt Lancaster in Local Hero. I asked Rocket if he could come up with a new name for me and he did.

For a while I was Peter North, because Digital Mike saw my new avatar and thought that suck a glorious spurt could come from only one man. I found the life of a porn star very tiring though, and changed it back.

Local Hero: that's it! A film that reminds me of Marske-by-Sea! An exciting development.

I do remember you as Peter North, who could forget. But perhaps your tone has changed with your persona, I don't recall 'The North Pole' being quite so erudite.

Although that could all be rubbish, I seem to be misreading every man and his raccoon today.

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Call him Biggy if you like, at least that's what I call him

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With apologies for bringing another issue into this fine discussion, the following has just occurred to me.

In one of the pre-release interviews, Barney revealed that Who's Joe was about a tramp called Joe. This came as no surprise to me, a tramp having taken a key role in the most recent New Order related work.

In 24-Hour Party People Christopher Ecclestone (the new Dr Who Time Lord) plays a tramp that quotes some Boethius at Wilson under a railway arch near Whitworth St. The passage quoted is the "Wheel of Fortune" passage that is referred to by the Wilson charatcter elsewhere in the film.

I have drawn no conclusions from my observation, I merely offer it as a point to ponder or ignore.

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NObabe wrote: Call him Biggy if you like, at least that's what I call him

I like it when she calls me that, but would ask all male members to refrain from such.

Big is fine.

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depthcharge wrote: I don't recall 'The North Pole' being quite so erudite.

I am normally quite drunk when on here - perhaps that explains the change.

No ghost stories, but I would be quite happy to make some up if required.

Excuse me, I am clearly hogging this thread. I will withdraw for a while to let it regain it's rightful course.

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NObabe wrote: Call him Biggy if you like, at least that's what I call him

I like it when she calls me that, but would ask all male members to refrain from such.

Big is fine.

Done!

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BIGINOIL wrote: With apologies for bringing another issue into this fine discussion, the following has just occurred to me.

In one of the pre-release interviews, Barney revealed that Who's Joe was about a tramp called Joe. This came as no surprise to me, a tramp having taken a key role in the most recent New Order related work.

In 24-Hour Party People Christopher Ecclestone (the new Dr Who Time Lord) plays a tramp that quotes some Boethius at Wilson under a railway arch near Whitworth St. The passage quoted is the "Wheel of Fortune" passage that is referred to by the Wilson charatcter elsewhere in the film.

I have drawn no conclusions from my observation, I merely offer it as a point to ponder or ignore.

As I may have said elsewhere, I took those tramp references by BS as diversionary tactics. Does anyone else have views on this point?

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Or perhaps a reference to episodes where gods go around disguised as beggars?

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I feel a tad disappointed when someone is so rapidly keen to fabricate a story of ghosts. I don't think they deserve such flippant treatment. No wonder they rarely come out to be photographed.

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A Hindu god Katargama was known to do this but this doesn't quite fit into your point of reference, unfortunately.

In my theory, I'm seeing the beggar as more of an oracle figure.

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Patrick wrote: Or perhaps a reference to episodes where gods go around disguised as beggars?

There are countless examples steeped in history P, although not all are 'gods'.

Was the wolf not disguised in Little Red Riding Hat? - Did Pinnochio not intentionally outgrow his beak simply to masquerade as Depthchariot at the Kangaroo festival back in '63 - how many Kings and Queens have wandered to their local bakery disguised by an irregular shaped mustache?

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Huntsman wrote: I feel a tad disappointed when someone is so rapidly keen to fabricate a story of ghosts. I don't think they deserve such flippant treatment. No wonder they rarely come out to be photographed.

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Was I in any way accurate about Local Hero, Hustler?

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depthcharge wrote: A Hindu god Katargama was known to do this but this doesn't quite fit into your point of reference, unfortunately.

In my theory, I'm seeing the beggar as more of a oracle figure.

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'an' oracle figure.

Can we please maintain standards.

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Huntsman wrote:

Was the wolf not disguised in Little Red Riding Hat? - Did Pinnochio not intentionally outgrow his beak simply to masquerade as Depthchariot at the Kangaroo festival back in '63 - how many Kings and Queens have wandered to their local bakery disguised by an irregular shaped mustache?

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This theory is fabricated on the fallacy that I have a beakish hooter.

How many yo-yo designers have walked into their local 'offie' wearing a green hat and puffing on a ciggy, attempting to get discounted sherbert, for that matter?

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depthcharge wrote:

Huntsman wrote: I feel a tad disappointed when someone is so rapidly keen to fabricate a story of ghosts. I don't think they deserve such flippant treatment. No wonder they rarely come out to be photographed.

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Was I in any way accurate about Local Hero, Hustler?

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I was going to chip-in when Local Heroin was first broadcast but the threads span out of control and I didn't know what was left and who was right.

It is a very good film, which is probably better to digest with a smoldering bowl of tomato soup and several rounds of crusty white bread on a rainy day, possibly when a moderate cold has gripped the body. And yes, the town featured is very reminiscent of Marske-by-the-Sea, in fact, very much so.

BUT, can I point out that Gregory's Lady is a better film boasting a similar tradition of insular emotion. Although it doesn't boast a seaside setting, the sentimentality is so beautifully pitched.

Add to that Kes about the boy with the magnificent blackbird and you have quite an amazing line-up.

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Huntsman wrote: I feel a tad disappointed when someone is so rapidly keen to fabricate a story of ghosts. I don't think they deserve such flippant treatment. No wonder they rarely come out to be photographed.

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] I actually have two real ghost stories, but they are both far below the standard that would be suitable for posting here. I take your point about fabrication, however, and I apologise.

If mild embellishment were permitted, I could possibly make something interesting out of my Yeovil yarn...

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Has anybody besides Big looked at the other thread?

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BIGINOIL wrote:

Huntsman wrote: I feel a tad disappointed when someone is so rapidly keen to fabricate a story of ghosts. I don't think they deserve such flippant treatment. No wonder they rarely come out to be photographed.

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] I actually have two real ghost stories, but they are both far below the standard that would be suitable for posting here. I take your point about fabrication, however, and I apologise.

If mild embellishment were permitted, I could possibly make something interesting out of my Yeovil yarn...

But of course. But please, don't add a werewolf in unless someone genuinely caught one on camera. It wouldn't be right.

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Unfortunately, my library is in storage, so I don't have handy all the reference materials that would be needed to trace the theme of gods and kings disguised as beggars. Could somebody just whip up a little something on that subject? Nothing too elaborate, now.

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We haven't heard the story from Big Neville about the ghosts yet P. Steady on!

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Huntsman wrote: We haven't heard the story from Big Neville about the ghosts yet P. Steady on!

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All right, H, I'll try to be patient.

But keep in mind that ghosts are not as high on my agenda as they are on yours.

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I'm sorry to hear that.

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