Bells on Who's Joe

I'm not certain, but I get the distinct impression that Big Neville has had a slight reversal of interest in the bell theory.

Huntsman wrote: I'm not certain, but I get the distinct impression that Big Neville has had a slight reversal of interest in the bell theory.

I'm proud of what we've acheived, but I don't think there's much more to be said about less than one minute of the record.

When we have some live footage to go on, we could discover more. I'm really good at reading far too much into concert recordings.

I bet they open the concert by ringing an enormous bell, then the band come on dressed as Greek gods and do the album as an opera in Italian with subtitles. That would get me interested again.

For the time being...

Few have the potent stamina of P when he's in full flow - he won't rest until he's exasperated every conceivable angle, and spelt them correctly.

To be honest Biggy, you've lasted longer than I personally anticipated - but that may be more to do with your overall strength.

Yes, we have achieved a lot, but there is still a great journey ahead of us. One so long, it has bells on.

BIGINOIL wrote: Actually, no.

I'm sick to fucking death of the first few seconds of this album now. I've listened to it about a hundred times this afternoon and there's nothing more for me to hear there. I have nothing more to say on the subject of bells. I will attempt to contribute to further discussions about possible concepts and am happy to devote time to other sections of the record, however short. I've had enough of this bit though - this is the bell end.

(Of course, the above is based on piratised .mp3 files, heard on low quality equipment. I will listen to the official release on my home system and may post more on this subject then).

Here is the link I was going to use, in case anyone is still reading...

Ships Bells

I'm sorry to have been a contributor to a situation that's been the cause of such discomfort for you, Big. We will certainly not expect you to focus any more on this particular part of the album, but we remain exceedingly grateful for your valuable contributions and will welcome any future participation that you choose to offer.

You see what I mean.

I do plan to study that material you provided on The Odyssey, Big. Thanks again.

Patrick wrote: I do plan to study that material you provided on The Odyssey, Big. Thanks again.

I will also. And I will listen to the higher fidelity bells on my home system to see if I can hear any more clues.

I am strengthened by the news that I am not the first to falter along this path to enlightenment. Maybe I can continue. My struggle will mirror the great heroes of history and literature.

I've a feeling Pastie will inquire as to which specific greats you refer to ...

Huntsman wrote: I've a feeling Pastie will inquire as to which specific greats you refer to ...

He'll have to be quick, I'm going home in a minute.

Likewise, my horse is prepared.

BIGINOIL wrote:

Huntsman wrote: I've a feeling Pastie will inquire as to which specific greats you refer to ...

He'll have to be quick, I'm going home in a minute.

I'm sure that Big is referring to epic heroes such as Odysseus, Leopold Bloom, etc.

Unless he can make that assumption official P, you may just have to resign yourself to an uneasy night tonight.

Huntsman wrote: Unless he can make that assumption official P, you may just have to resign yourself to an uneasy night tonight.

Night is a long way off for me, H, but I'm confident mine will not be uneasy.

Yes sir - with a bounce and a spring the world is a calm place.

Ta ta for now my old bean.

Carry on.

Or as BSP might say, carrion.

Patrick wrote: My main interest is not in precisely how the sound was produced but rather whether it was intended to sound like a bell.

For me, the result sounds like a guitar with overdrive, but without the usually associated noise.

Nico wrote:

Patrick wrote: My main interest is not in precisely how the sound was produced but rather whether it was intended to sound like a bell.

For me, the result sounds like a guitar with overdrive, but without the usually associated noise.

In other words, not a bell-like sound?

I will refrain from asking whether you're a VU fan.

Where's One Brain?

I prescribe bedrest and a week's course of Brian Eno's Bell Studies for the Clock of the Long Now on repeat.

You want bells? Eno's got yer friggin' bells! You can't handle the bells!

The attack seems to come from a string instrument, much rather than from a percussion. Maybe a virtual synth with a guitar-like sound. Of course, this is nothing but my opinion, I don't have the best ears in the world ;)

Soory, I don't understand a word of your last sentence (a VU fan )

Nico wrote: The attack seems to come from a string instrument, much rather than from a percussion. Maybe a virtual synth with a guitar-like sound. Of course, this is nothing but my opinion, I don't have the best ears in the world ;)

Soory, I don't understand a word of your last sentence (a VU fan )

VU=Velvet Underground, an American band from the late 60's and early 70's. One of their albums featured a singer named Nico.:)

Just a preliminary update to Big and H and anyone else who's interested. In Books 13 and 14, Odysseus is disguised as a beggar.

Patrick wrote:

BIGINOIL wrote:

Huntsman wrote: I've a feeling Pastie will inquire as to which specific greats you refer to ...

He'll have to be quick, I'm going home in a minute.

I'm sure that Big is referring to epic heroes such as Odysseus, Leopold Bloom, etc.

I can confirm that them two heroes were top of my list.

Others I had in mind were:

Hercules The Heroes from the eponymous Bowie song Noddy

Got a long night of reading ahead of us!

Yes, indeedy, Big. I'm glad to know my instinct about your meaning was correct.

From bells to heroes and I'd like to mention Hannibal Lecter, never seen someone so intelligent before. Pardon me for being totally off topic in here.

NObabe wrote: From bells to heroes and I'd like to mention Hannibal Lecter, never seen someone so intelligent before. Pardon me for being totally off topic in here.

Minor transgressions from the defined subject matter are, I believe, permitted in here Babe.

NObabe wrote: From bells to heroes and I'd like to mention Hannibal Lecter, never seen someone so intelligent before. Pardon me for being totally off topic in here.

So far I haven't detected clear references to cannibalism on WFTSC, M, but who knows, anything is possible.:)

I'll prove you wrong just give me a couple of hours. ;)

Patrick wrote:

NObabe wrote: From bells to heroes and I'd like to mention Hannibal Lecter, never seen someone so intelligent before. Pardon me for being totally off topic in here.

So far I haven't detected clear references to cannibalism on WFTSC, M, but who knows, anything is possible.:)

There's a monster at the end of the first track. Could he be a flesh-eater?

NObabe wrote: I'll prove you wrong just give me a couple of hours. ;)

I'll give you one, Babe.

Yes, what's that terrible sound at the end of Joe? Actually I was thinking more like finding the hidden meaning of the lyrics.