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Who should produce the next album?
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I like the idea of working with a few producers, but if I had to pick one at the moment, I would say Ben Hillier. He is working on the new Depeche Mode album at the moment, but I loved his work on the Doves, Blur, and Elbow albums.
We'll see how he sounds with Depeche Mode and see if it might be a fit for New Order. I like Out Of Control and Here To Stay a lot, but not sure if the Chem’s producing would be the best fit. I think the sound may become to "samey" and be a bland record. Who knows though?
John Leckie, I found, did a great job. Like Krafty and Dracula's castle or not, they are well tuned I think. I would like to see him work alongside them again.
It would be good if the band produced more tracks themselves.
I also think it would be nice to strip things down a bit on the production, not to many layers of vocals, not too many over dubs. Keep the synths, guitars, bass, drums and vox to a minimum, keep it raw. It seems to me that the music biz is in a simmilar state to just before punk (over produced), the apple kart needs upturning again.
Ah Eno! I remember when there was a rumor (or did someone make a joke about it in an interview?) that he was producing WFTSC and I flipped out!
What next album are you talking about? Because the next album (well, at least seven songs from it...) is already written, recorded and produced!
I'm surprised there have been no volunteers from NOOLers yet. There has been plenty of critisism for past efforts - why not have a go if you think you're good enough!
Obviously, I should produce it.
If not me, then...
The Neptunes!
Surefire top-ten single there. Pharrel could sing backup. Hip, fresh, urban, and today.
I think some people are mistaking good remixers for good producers. There is of course a world of difference from shuffling around a few samples and adding a standard dance beat to physically bringing out the best of a band's creativity in the studio, and moulding their ideas into brand new material. Personally, I would like to see Stephen Hague behind the desk again. The partnership which produced True Faith, 1963, Regret, Ruined in a day etc. can't really go wrong. Hague also managed to drag an album (whatever you may think of Republic) out of the band when they literally hated each other's guts, which is some achievement in my book.
For the love of god I hope they don't return to Steve Osborne. I was originally quite interested in the idea of him producing Get Ready as I was a big fan of Perfecto's stuff and thought he could only lead to great things. How wrong I was. Guitars overdubbed to death, flat drums and an overall "messy" wall of sound. Only Hooky's bass managed to shine through on Get Ready. Osborne can't be fully blamed of course, the band obviously wanted the sound to go in that direction.
I agree with a previous comment that a mixture of producers is good. WFTSC sounds fresh from track to track thanks to that dynamic. From Who's Joe? to Guilt, they sound totally different production-wise and that's a great thing
Ally
BIGINOIL wrote: I'm surprised there have been no volunteers from NOOLers yet. There has been plenty of critisism for past efforts - why not have a go if you think you're good enough!
It is assumed that we all think we are good enough, we needn't remind ourselves.
Ally3000 wrote: For the love of god I hope they don't return to Steve Osborne. I was originally quite interested in the idea of him producing Get Ready as I was a big fan of Perfecto's stuff and thought he could only lead to great things. How wrong I was. Guitars overdubbed to death, flat drums and an overall "messy" wall of sound. Only Hooky's bass managed to shine through on Get Ready. Osborne can't be fully blamed of course, the band obviously wanted the sound to go in that direction.
Ally, your venom towards everything related to Get Ready disturbs me on a daily basis ;)
Honestly, I loved the way GR sounded, and wouldn't mind the band sounding like that again. I'm probably the only one here that feels that way though. 
What? No volunteers? I'll do it... clear my schedule! Blue Order, have them call me when you get off the phone with 'em! :D
On a serious note, I think the production on the new album sounds fantastic! Lots of subtle and not so subtle layers of sound with something new to discover on each listen. It may be too much of a pop record for some to bear, but it's definitley mixed to perfection.
I think Eno and Flood would be a great team. Their interest in both rock and electronics is ideal for a band like New Order rather than having a rock producer or a dance producer. Maybe Stephen Hague and Steve Osbourne could be good as a team for a sound not too clean like Republic or too noisy like Get Ready! 
charles wrote: Ally, your venom towards everything related to Get Ready disturbs me on a daily basis ;)
Not "everything", although I agree you do have a point. Get Ready is becoming too much of an easy target these days There are tracks on Get Ready I like (ironically I think the b-sides are top) but as an overall album it's perhaps their weakest. The overall sound didn't agree with me although I'm sure alot of people on here love it. On a more positive note, I love WFTSC more every time I hear it It will definitely age as a classic album for me. I haven't properly listened to Get Ready in well over a year except the odd mix of Crystal or the Gabriel + Dresden 12" mix of SLY. The rest I can live without, which is a first for a New Order album as all their others (except Movement) are classics to me.
If the next album is another Street/Leckie/Price production job I will be incredibly happy. It just sounds so much more melodic and balanced than "the 2001 album" (that's what I'm going to call it from now on ) But I still think they should consider giving Hague another chance behind the mixing desk.
Ally.
Eno did a great job with James on Seven, and they got another album out of the sessions too - the name escapes me right now. Wah Wah or something.
Strictly for the fans, an interesting document of the band at work to complement the finished product.
Ally3000 wrote: There are tracks on Get Ready I like (ironically I think the b-sides are top) but as an overall album it's perhaps their weakest.
You think Get Ready is weaker than Republic? At least Hooky plays bass on all of the songs on GR... I only hear signature Hooky bass in about 3 or 4 tracks on Republic! I suspect most of the bass on that record is played by computer/sequencer. I'm willing to bet most of the drumming is computer generated as well. At least GR was a proper effort by the whole band.
Anyway, I don't think we're going to get anywhere here. GR is pretty much my favorite NO record, and it's your least favorite. Any discussion about that record between us is pretty pointless at this juncture. Let's just agree to disagree :)
Trent Reznor should do it. Then we could have this Joy Division-esque return, it would rock. Maybe he should have worked on Get Ready, or he might have wanted to much synth then. Anyway, I like Trent Reznor, and it would interesting to hear what he would do with them.
charles wrote: Anyway, I don't think we're going to get anywhere here. GR is pretty much my favorite NO record, and it's your least favorite. Any discussion about that record between us is pretty pointless at this juncture. Let's just agree to disagree :)
I do think Republic is a better album than Get Ready. A New Order song without Hooky bass does not make it the anti-christ as I have said in other threads. Not to mention that there's only one or two tracks on Republic missing Hooky's bass. But you're absolutely right, it's personal opinion and we could bicker 'til the cows come home and it would accomplish nothing.
I'm curious, was Get Ready your "first" new New Order album? I don't mean anything by that, I'm just wondering.
Ally.
Whomever is chosen, I want them to reapply Hannett's overblown, over-the-top digital delayed drum sounds again. Well, either that or the slight reverberation effect on most of True Faith and Technique.
I'd want someone who:
(1) would lock the whole band in the studio together with their instruments (rather than Barney and his computer on a yacht, Steven and his computer on the farm, Hooky off with some hookers somewhere)
(2) knows analog synths and how to record them (Aphex Twin, maybe? Not Karl Bartos...he had his chance)
(3) doesn't have a black book full of shrieking backup divas' phone numbers
Steve Albini? 
Wait...some UK Garage guy. Dizzee Rascal. Wookie. Grime it up. Seriously. I want Wookie.
New Order, and one or two tracks from Hague, to create a real blast like True Faith and 1963.
